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Ryo Hazuki
05-26-2008, 12:15 AM
(Idea from CMF forum.. )

Weight discrimination could be as common as racial bias - USATODAY.com (http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/weightloss/2008-05-20-overweight-bias_N.htm)


Weight discrimination, especially against women, is increasing in U.S. society and is almost as common as racial discrimination, two studies suggest.

Reported discrimination based on weight has increased 66% in the past decade, up from about 7% to 12% of U.S. adults, says one study, in the journal Obesity. The other study, in the International Journal of Obesity, says such discrimination is common in both institutional and interpersonal situations — and in some cases is even more prevalent than rates of discrimination based on gender and race. (About 17% of men and 9% of women reported race discrimination.)

Among severely obese people, about 28% of men and 45% of women said they have experienced discrimination because of their weight.

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"Weight discrimination is a very serious social problem that we need to pay attention to," says Rebecca Puhl of the Rudd Center for Food Policy and Obesity at Yale University, a co-author of both studies.
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The research, based on surveys of more than 2,000 U.S. adults in 1995-96 and 2004-06, is the first to compare rates of weight discrimination with other forms of discrimination, Puhl says.

Institutional discrimination involved health care, education or workplace situations, such as cases in which people said they were fired, denied a job or a promotion because of their weight. Interpersonal discrimination focused on insults, abuse and harassment from others.

Lynn McAfee, director of medical advocacy at the non-profit Council on Size and Weight Discrimination in Mt. Marion, N.Y., is not surprised by the findings.

"Until we clean up language like 'war on obesity' and have authorities speak out about it, discrimination will continue to increase," she says.

Puhl agrees weight discrimination will not decrease until attitudes change and laws begin addressing it.

No federal laws against weight discrimination exist, although some cities, including Washington, D.C., and San Francisco, have banned discrimination locally. The Massachusetts Legislature had hearings last month on a proposed law.

Peggy Howell says she will never forget the day her boss told her she either had to lose weight or lose her job. She weighed 280 pounds at the time and was working as a librarian. Feeling as if she had no choice but to comply, Howell joined Weight Watchers.

Howell volunteers for the National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance, a non-profit organization in Oakland.

After shedding 120 pounds in a year and a half, she quit her library job and started an online business selling items that portray people of size in a positive light.

She says she now knows she has the right to challenge stereotypes, and she wants to "help people to see the beauty in themselves, no matter what their size."

Thoughts?

Rahat
05-26-2008, 12:26 AM
this is something we all do at one point in our lives if we are not obese, i remember in 6th grade we would pick on the "fat kid" and unlike racial discrimination you tend to not really think about it so much

Messy Marj
05-28-2008, 12:40 PM
I really can't help it, but when I see an obese person I'm thinking 'eww, lose some fat'. I would never fire or refuse to hire them though, that's going too far.

But I will always look at obese people as people who don't take good care of their body.


She says she now knows she has the right to challenge stereotypes, and she wants to "help people to see the beauty in themselves, no matter what their size."
While that may be a good thing, it does not promote a healthy body. It's good to be happy with yourself, but I still think that all obese people should lose weight.

I'm talking about obese people who're fat because of food, not because of medications etc.

Ryo Hazuki
06-01-2008, 05:51 PM
I really can't help it, but when I see an obese person I'm thinking 'eww, lose some fat'. I would never fire or refuse to hire them though, that's going too far.

But I will always look at obese people as people who don't take good care of their body.


While that may be a good thing, it does not promote a healthy body. It's good to be happy with yourself, but I still think that all obese people should lose weight.

I'm talking about obese people who're fat because of food, not because of medications etc.

I was in an argument with someone that's similar to your point here. I was saying that it wasn't very healthy, and that people could care about there health and such but the other person was like "It's not your concern if they are happy or not" I don't know what to think about that.. I could post a link to the debate if you want. Maybe..

Timothy
06-01-2008, 06:40 PM
I really can't help it, but when I see an obese person I'm thinking 'eww, lose some fat'. I would never fire or refuse to hire them though, that's going too far.

But I will always look at obese people as people who don't take good care of their body.


While that may be a good thing, it does not promote a healthy body. It's good to be happy with yourself, but I still think that all obese people should lose weight.

I'm talking about obese people who're fat because of food, not because of medications etc.

I would agree with this.

It's a double-edged sword. You don't want to denigrate someone based off of the way they look, but obesity is a problem people bring upon themselves (in most cases).

Messy Marj
06-02-2008, 10:50 AM
I was in an argument with someone that's similar to your point here. I was saying that it wasn't very healthy, and that people could care about there health and such but the other person was like "It's not your concern if they are happy or not" I don't know what to think about that.. I could post a link to the debate if you want. Maybe..
Sure, post the link.

Sure it's not our concern if they're happy or not. But they shouldn't whine about people looking weird at them, or about discrimination. Ofcourse I'm not trying to talk discrimination right, but in this society you have to look good or else you're an outcast. To the ones who don't care about that, fine by me; to the ones who do care, lose some fat instead of whining.

Ryo Hazuki
06-02-2008, 11:41 AM
Sure, post the link.

Sure it's not our concern if they're happy or not. But they shouldn't whine about people looking weird at them, or about discrimination. Ofcourse I'm not trying to talk discrimination right, but in this society you have to look good or else you're an outcast. To the ones who don't care about that, fine by me; to the ones who do care, lose some fat instead of whining.

Click (http://www.cloverfieldmovieforum.com/f87/weight-discrimination-could-common-racial-bias-4160/)

Me = ImInUrRoom. I make myself out to look pretty much stupid also. :lol:

Messy Marj
06-02-2008, 12:00 PM
Click (http://www.cloverfieldmovieforum.com/f87/weight-discrimination-could-common-racial-bias-4160/)

Me = ImInUrRoom. I make myself out to look pretty much stupid also. :lol:
What a bunch of fuckers over there. They make you look like a fool while you gave valid points unlike most of them.

I wholeheartly agree with you.

Like I said before, if people are happy with their weight, fine by me, but don't come whining when people have disgusted looks upon their faces.

Ryo Hazuki
06-02-2008, 12:17 PM
Also a lot of the people think that people should be able to kill themselves too. Which.. well. I don't think is right at all. But I'm pretty much made up with everyone we're all friends, just .. their views are wrong:P