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Rachel
05-15-2008, 09:02 PM
This is big.

Source (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080515/ap_on_re_us/gay_marriage)



SAN FRANCISCO - In a monumental victory for the gay rights movement, the California Supreme Court overturned a voter-approved ban on gay marriage Thursday in a ruling that would allow same-sex couples in the nation's biggest state to tie the knot.

Domestic partnerships are not a good enough substitute for marriage, the justices ruled 4-3 in striking down the ban.

Outside the courthouse, gay marriage supporters cried and cheered as the news spread.

Jeanie Rizzo, one of the plaintiffs, called Pali Cooper, her partner of 19 years, and asked, "Pali, will you marry me?"

"This is a very historic day. This is just such freedom for us," Rizzo said. "This is a message that says all of us are entitled to human dignity."

In the Castro, historically a center of the gay community in San Francisco, Tim Oviatt started crying while watching the news on TV.

"I've been waiting for this all my life," he said. "This is a life-affirming moment."

The city of San Francisco, two dozen gay and lesbian couples and gay rights groups sued in March 2004 after the court halted the monthlong wedding march that took place when Mayor Gavin Newsom opened the doors of City Hall to same-sex marriages.

"Today the California Supreme Court took a giant leap to ensure that everybody — not just in the state of California, but throughout the country — will have equal treatment under the law," said City Attorney Dennis Herrera, who argued the case for San Francisco.

The challenge for gay rights advocates, however, is not over.

A coalition of religious and social conservative groups is attempting to put a measure on the November ballot that would enshrine laws banning gay marriage in the state constitution.

The Secretary of State is expected to rule by the end of June whether the sponsors gathered enough signatures to qualify the marriage amendment, similar to ones enacted in 26 other states.

If voters pass the measure in November, it would trump the court's decision.

California already offers same-sex couples who register as domestic partners the same legal rights and responsibilities as married spouses, including the right to divorce and to sue for child support.

But, "Our state now recognizes that an individual's capacity to establish a loving and long-term committed relationship with another person and responsibly to care for and raise children does not depend upon the individual's sexual orientation," Chief Justice Ron George wrote for the court's majority, which also included Justices Joyce Kennard, Kathryn Werdegar and Carlos Moreno.

In a dissenting opinion, Justice Marvin Baxter agreed with many arguments of the majority but said the court overstepped its authority. Changes to marriage laws should be decided by the voters, Baxter wrote. Justices Ming Chin and Carol Corrigan also dissented.

The conservative Alliance Defense Fund says it plans to ask the justices for a stay of their decision until after the fall election, said Glen Lavey, senior counsel for the group.

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who has twice vetoed legislation that would've granted marriage rights to same-sex couples, said in a news release that he respected the court's decision and "will not support an amendment to the constitution that would overturn this state Supreme Court ruling."

The last time California voters were asked to express their views on gay marriage at the ballot box was in 2000, the year after the Legislature enacted the first of a series of laws awarding spousal rights to domestic partners.

Proposition 22, which strengthened the state's 1978 one-man, one-woman marriage law with the words "Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California," passed with 61 percent of the vote.

The Supreme Court struck down both statutes with its sweeping opinion Thursday.

Lawyers for the gay couples had asked the court to overturn the laws as an unconstitutional civil rights violation that domestic partnerships cannot repair. A trial court judge in San Francisco agreed with gay rights advocates and voided the state's marriage laws in April 2005. A midlevel appeals court overturned his decision in October 2006.



Living in Massachusetts and being bisexual, this is huge. I am incredibly excited, as now that will be 2 states in America that allows gay marriage. I really hope California can keep up and allow this change we so desperately need. I mean, of all places, San Francisco is the most well known region in America as a homosexual community. It's only right that they deserve this equality.

Discuss =]

Messy Marj
05-15-2008, 09:07 PM
It's about damn time. Now if only the entire USA makes gay marriage legal, we're not living in the fecking middle ages.

Andrea
05-15-2008, 09:11 PM
I support gay marriage and I am very happy about this news. ^_^

Rachel
05-15-2008, 09:18 PM
I texted my ex girlfriend who visits her father in California all the time, and she called me up pretty much crying about it. We're hoping Florida smartens up, so that way we can get the vacation trifecta :lol:

Ryo Hazuki
05-15-2008, 09:32 PM
Wait.. wait wait.. there's only two states that allow gay marriage?

There needs to be 50, plus all the land that the US owns. yah.

Rachel
05-15-2008, 09:37 PM
Wait.. wait wait.. there's only two states that allow gay marriage?

There needs to be 50, plus all the land that the US owns. yah.

Mhm. One and a half right now, since we're not sure if Cali will continue to allow it once November hits if they do the same crap they did to MA (the vote).

And I fully agree, every and any part of U.S territory should allow gay marriage.

Ryo Hazuki
05-15-2008, 10:04 PM
My dad said that Clinton was a lesbian. True or no? I told him I didn't really care if she was or wasn't she's evil. :lol:

Derek The Infamous
05-15-2008, 11:15 PM
I am very happy to hear this and I applaud this decision. It's about time the California Supreme Court got some fucking courage and did the right thing and hopefully other states will follow suit. After all, in my opinion anybody who doesn't support equal rights for Americans (irregardless of their sexual preference or 'race') is a coward.

....and was probably born in West Virginia.

Ryo Hazuki
05-15-2008, 11:17 PM
I am very happy to hear this and I applaud this decision. It's about time the California Supreme Court got some fucking courage and did the right thing and hopefully other states will follow suit. After all, in my opinion anybody who doesn't support equal rights for Americans (irregardless of their sexual preference or 'race') is a coward.

....and was probably born in West Virginia.

I was born in West Virginia..







Okay I wasn't but my dad was.

Derek The Infamous
05-15-2008, 11:32 PM
I know lol. It was a joke.

I was referring to this: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/15/daily-shows-primary-wrap_n_101876.html

Ryo Hazuki
05-16-2008, 01:08 AM
I know lol. It was a joke.

I was referring to this: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/15/daily-shows-primary-wrap_n_101876.html

I knew it was a joke I was kidding also. lol I'm from ohio :lol:

But my dad is black and is from west va and he's like .. well like a really country person.. i hate country music.. gah.

Iain
05-16-2008, 01:26 AM
I'm glad they did this. I'm so glad. Hopefully we can start coming out of this "OMG BEING GAY IS A CRIME" thing.

Harlz
05-16-2008, 06:04 AM
I'm so straight it's not funny, but seriously, this is so good to hear. Equality FTW

Will
05-16-2008, 02:12 PM
I'm glad this has happened. I think it's ridiculous that the government thinks it can tell people who they can and can't marry. It's utterly ridiculous.

For a nation so advanced, we're so far behind every other country as far as morals, integrity and ethics go that it's not even funny.

Dart
05-22-2008, 01:21 PM
Good. :)

LornVourkolakas
05-22-2008, 02:35 PM
I'm glad this has happened. I think it's ridiculous that the government thinks it can tell people who they can and can't marry. It's utterly ridiculous.

For a nation so advanced, we're so far behind every other country as far as morals, integrity and ethics go that it's not even funny.

If you look at history, most of the technology and ideas we have aren't really new. A lot of it you can see in the past. It just isn't talked about that much, so I wouldn't really call the US advanced. I'd say we're desperately trying to catch up.

I do agree, though, that most people see the US as an advanced nation.

Anyway, lets see how long this one lasts.

Seinfeld
06-04-2008, 05:30 PM
If you look at history, most of the technology and ideas we have aren't really new. A lot of it you can see in the past. It just isn't talked about that much, so I wouldn't really call the US advanced. I'd say we're desperately trying to catch up.

I do agree, though, that most people see the US as an advanced nation.

Anyway, lets see how long this one lasts.

...I see the US more as the trendsetter of all countries. At least imo. I mean...we're all following the trend, that america sets. Clothing, Food, looks, housing, and so on.

Haha...glad to hear about this! Gay marriage...I don't know what's so wrong about it. God loves us for who we are...why can't every other state?

Messy Marj
06-04-2008, 05:31 PM
...I see the US more as the trendsetter of all countries. At least imo. I mean...we're all following the trend, that america sets. Clothing, Food, looks, housing, and so on.

The Netherlands was the first country to make gay marriage legal. :ph34r:

Seinfeld
06-05-2008, 12:20 PM
The Netherlands was the first country to make gay marriage legal. :ph34r:

Aside from gay marriages...

the us is kinda...slow in terms of human rights. imo

Harlz
06-05-2008, 12:21 PM
Yeah Guantanamo Bay is still open.