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Ryo Hazuki
03-17-2008, 01:06 AM
I think you all know where this is coming from so I'll just ask my question.

Do you think Cursing is wrong? Yes, No, Maybe, Kind of? State your reasons and why. As usual I'll tell you my opinions about it later.

Discuss:

Chris.
03-17-2008, 01:12 AM
I think depending on the situation and your surroundings cursing can be wrong. If you're in a public place with a lot of people, I find swearing to be inappropriate but if your with a bunch of your friends just having fun, I don't see any problem with it. Obviously that excludes places like the bar or a bowling alley if it's during adult leagues. I swear a lot. I don't think it's morally wrong.

El Muerto
03-17-2008, 01:35 AM
It's fucking all right.

esaul17
03-17-2008, 04:05 AM
I don't see a problem with it. I mean, most curse words are just synonyms for other words. If it is fine to say "poop", it should be fine to say "shit" in that same scenario. Or course if you are calling someone a poophead or shithead, then your are insulting someone and there is very rarely a case where just trivial name calling and petty personal insults are appropriate or helpful.

That said, swearing for the sake of swearing just makes you look like an idiot. I mean, if you want to look like an idiot that is your right, but it does make you look like one.

Cale.
03-17-2008, 04:40 AM
It's a fantastic stress relief mechanism I reckon.

Nick
03-17-2008, 04:47 AM
The "Concept" has been around for Ages. Just a Derogatory Remark to Show the person Is either A: Mad or B: trying To Insult Someone.

Or other small various reasons but I See No Harm in it, as long as You yourself don't Make yourself believe it will hurt you. Then really It is just a Way of expression From a Certain Person, In a Certain Way.

I myself only do it When i get EXTREMELY Mad, Little things I won't waste my time on. Or when I'm with Friends who I know won't Care Because were messing around Or Playing a Game online, or somethin

Harlz
03-17-2008, 09:33 AM
I don't see a problem with it. I mean, most curse words are just synonyms for other words. If it is fine to say "poop", it should be fine to say "shit" in that same scenario. Or course if you are calling someone a poophead or shithead, then your are insulting someone and there is very rarely a case where just trivial name calling and petty personal insults are appropriate or helpful.

That said, swearing for the sake of swearing just makes you look like an idiot. I mean, if you want to look like an idiot that is your right, but it does make you look like one.

Word.

Will
03-17-2008, 10:06 AM
I swear a lot, but I find people who do it all the time to be annoying. It's one thing to just add words into a sentence to emphasize others, but it's another thing entirely when you can't figure out what someone's actually saying because there are so many swear words interlaced with the other words. I really don't have a problem with it either way, since I do swear a lot myself, like I said. I generally find swearing quite humorous in certain situations, but I'm also amused easily.

Messy Marj
03-17-2008, 12:11 PM
Cursing is wrong. I mean the big words, like 'Goddamnit', 'Jesus Christ' etc.. When I am very angry it sometimes blurts out and I feel very guilty and stupid for it. I'm not religious, but I've been raised as a christian where I've been slapped for lesser words than that. I still cringe if I hear those harsh cursing words. I don't mind when someone around me is cursing, just as long as they keep away from the ones that offend me. I don't curse alot, I think it's a waste of my breath and time.


This has nothing to do with this topic but, I don't think I'll be coming back. I've been lurking lately and it doesn't feel like a home anymore, something changed but I can't put my finger on it.

esaul17
03-17-2008, 01:43 PM
In my opinion, if God WAS real, he'd have bigger things to worry about than someone saying "Jesus Christ!".

Ryo Hazuki
03-17-2008, 04:39 PM
I also don't think cursing is that wrong, cursing for cursing is not okay but when cursing around friends or using it as a creative outlet/violence reducer or stress reliever I don't see how it could be so wrong.






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Good bye Marj. Miss ya.

Iain
03-17-2008, 05:06 PM
Cursing's always been a touchy subject for my family. While both my parents curse, it's never been okay for me or any of my sisters to curse. Well, except for my older sister, who seems to get away with anything.
I tried telling my parents that cursewords were in fact just words to begin with, but all that got was a "how would you like it if I called you ***?" from my dad. Brilliant, I know. But, the way I see it, they're just words, so use them, but if someone doesn't like them being used, don't use them around said person. It's that simple. And if you can't stop yourself, don't talk.

Dedicated
03-17-2008, 05:15 PM
I find it odd how people can find 'curse' words offensive to be honest (well, if it's not a racist one or whatever). I believe that it's all to do with your up-bringing. Personally, I don't mind swearing at all, infact I swear a hell of a lot but as I said, it's to do with what your taught to be offended by. As for the age-old idea that it's "a lack of vocabulary", I think it's completely stupid considering that the use of and other word could also be deemed as having a "lack of vocabulary".

El Muerto
03-17-2008, 05:18 PM
In my opinion, if God WAS real, he'd have bigger things to worry about than someone saying "Jesus Christ!".

Do you do anything else on this forum than bashing Christianity and/or God?

Iain
03-17-2008, 05:23 PM
I find it odd how people can find 'curse' words offensive to be honest (well, if it's not a racist one or whatever). I believe that it's all to do with your up-bringing. Personally, I don't mind swearing at all, infact I swear a hell of a lot but as I said, it's to do with what your taught to be offended by. As for the age-old idea that it's "a lack of vocabulary", I think it's completely stupid considering that the use of and other word could also be deemed as having a "lack of vocabulary".
I keep getting the whole "that just means you've got a small vocabulary". And guess what I say? "Fuck off." :lol: But really, if it's a racist or homophobic comment, I won't say it.


@esaul17: I don't really believe in God, but I keep that to myself, because it's a touchy subject. Just keep it to yourself if you don't believe it, or don't be so vehement about it.

Dean
03-17-2008, 06:12 PM
To me they're as valid a part of my vocabulary as purpura and limnoplankton.

Seriously though I don't give a toss. They're words.

Friskey™
03-17-2008, 06:28 PM
I swear a lot, but I find people who do it all the time to be annoying. It's one thing to just add words into a sentence to emphasize others, but it's another thing entirely when you can't figure out what someone's actually saying because there are so many swear words interlaced with the other words. I really don't have a problem with it either way, since I do swear a lot myself, like I said. I generally find swearing quite humorous in certain situations, but I'm also amused easily.

That's my older brother when no one else is around or he's talking to his friends. I can't stand it.

Sure, cursing to me is as fine as baseball and apple pie. But when you do it ad-naseuem and every sentence has to have the F-bomb, then it gets on my nerves. Do I curse in front of my parents...yeah. My mom is just touchy enough for us that we can't use the F-bomb or the dreaded C-word (only swear word I hate). That, i'm fine with. I just use that when i'm not around them.

I don't mind it personally, give or take a couple things. I swear like an undeserved sailor sometimes.

Ryo Hazuki
03-17-2008, 07:41 PM
About the "C" word, I myself do not see why everyone perceives it as a bad word. I don't really use it, and i don't really care if others do because I don't see how it's any different from the other word of the same meaning that starts with "P" just because some people associated it with things and giving it a meaning that it didn't mean to be attached to, makes it bad? I get told that the word is so offensive but I've yet to have anyone explain to me why it is. I know why the words "Gay" and "Retarded" are offensive but not what makes the "C" word bad. I don't want to offend anyone here so I won't say it, but I'm oblivious as to why it upsets people.

mis
03-17-2008, 08:11 PM
I don't know why the"C" word is so offensive but it is. I think its because it is still one word that you never really see on tv or even in the movies. It's very taboo. Whatever the reasons its just a very disrespectul work to use, unless you are with people that you know are ok with the word. Usually slang or curse words do take on different meanings than intended and that's why they become so offensive. It doesn't always have to make sense, it just is what it is.

Cursing is fine depending on who you are with. If your with your friends I don't see anything wrong with cursing but if you are around children or elderly it's a sign of disrespect. I guess alot of us are still old fashioned that way.

Dedicated
03-17-2008, 08:12 PM
My mom is just touchy enough for us that we can't use the F-bomb or the dreaded C-word (only swear word I hate).


I love that word :lol:

El Muerto
03-17-2008, 10:43 PM
What's the C-word? Cunt?

Phantom Duck
03-17-2008, 11:45 PM
I love cursing. I don't actually perceive any word to be a "bad" one, it all depends on the speaker's intention, and mine is to use politically incorrect words. 'Yo mama' jokes never get old anyway.

I can't recall myself insulting someone in front of them, though.

Iain
03-18-2008, 12:51 AM
What's the C-word? Cunt?

It's crunk. It's the most obscene of all words in the world. :lol: No, it's what you said.

esaul17
03-18-2008, 01:41 AM
Do you do anything else on this forum than bashing Christianity and/or God?

I would consider what I said about God a compliment, assuming he wasn't so petty.

But to answer your question yes, yes I do.


About the "C" word, I myself do not see why everyone perceives it as a bad word. I don't really use it, and i don't really care if others do because I don't see how it's any different from the other word of the same meaning that starts with "P" just because some people associated it with things and giving it a meaning that it didn't mean to be attached to, makes it bad? I get told that the word is so offensive but I've yet to have anyone explain to me why it is. I know why the words "Gay" and "Retarded" are offensive but not what makes the "C" word bad. I don't want to offend anyone here so I won't say it, but I'm oblivious as to why it upsets people.

Why is any swear word offensive really? I mean, unless it is targeting you or something you care about, it shouldn't be offensive...I mean, look at "fuck", it either means sex or just emphasizes something. Neither of these things (should) be offensive by default, but for some reason we perceive them as such. It is just because people have always been told they are "bad" words, and you aren't supposed to say them. I very rarely curse, but in all honesty they are just words like any others and I don't think the usage of any word should be offensive in and of itself.

Iain
03-18-2008, 02:03 AM
I think there's a line between cursing being just words and when it becomes hurtful. For instance, if I were to tell someone "get the fuck out of my house, cunt", that would and should be considered offensive. However, if I'm playing around, and I call my sister a shithead, because she scored higher than me on StickRPG, that's on the non-offensive side.
However, some words, such as f****t, and others, should never be considered non-offensive, unless you're referring to a cigarette. Just my opinion though.

esaul17
03-18-2008, 02:11 AM
I think there's a line between cursing being just words and when it becomes hurtful. For instance, if I were to tell someone "get the fuck out of my house, cunt", that would and should be considered offensive. However, if I'm playing around, and I call my sister a shithead, because she scored higher than me on StickRPG, that's on the non-offensive side.
However, some words, such as f****t, and others, should never be considered non-offensive, unless you're referring to a cigarette. Just my opinion though.

Well, everything needs context. If I just say the word "faggot" or "nigger" with no context at all...I am not really sure that anyone would be offended. But since there is no point in using a word at all if you don't have a context for it, then almost any usage of those words in practice IS offensive. Pretty much the only way you can say "nigger" in a non-offensive manner is if you are just discussing the word or using it in an example, like here.

But words like fuck (unlike faggot or nigger) aren't almost ALWAYS targeting and insulting a specific group of people when using in context, so I don't think they should be seen are really offensive.



In short, what I was saying is it is not really the words themselves, but the way you use them. If a word can only really be used in an offensive manner in practice though, then it should not be included.

Iain
03-18-2008, 02:15 AM
Well, everything needs context. If I just say the word "faggot" or "nigger" with no context at all...I am not really sure that anyone would be offended. But since there is no point in using a word at all if you don't have a context for it, then almost any usage of those words in practice IS offensive. Pretty much the only way you can say "nigger" in a non-offensive manner is if you are just discussing the word or using it in an example, like here.

But words like fuck (unlike faggot or nigger) aren't almost ALWAYS targeting and insulting a specific group of people when using in context, so I don't think they should be seen are really offensive.



In short, what I was saying is it is not really the words themselves, but the way you use them. If a word can only really be used in an offensive manner in practice though, then it should not be included.

Exactly. That's why, when my dad tells me acting the way I do makes me look like a f****t, I take it as an insult. Because of how it's used, and the... I don't know what the word is, but the way he says it, like, the tone of voice. I'm not sure if that's inflection or what, but that affects it too. That's why I understand why certain words aren't allowed on here, because you can't tell someone's tone of voice, and it's hard to get what exactly you mean across to people on the Internet.

esaul17
03-18-2008, 02:40 AM
Yeah. But tone of voice or not, it is pretty much impossible to call someone/thing a faggot and mean it in a non-offensive way.

Ryo Hazuki
03-18-2008, 03:18 AM
I'm mixed with white and black and I am hardly ever offended by the use of the "N" word. I just laugh when people say it to me, I mean maybe because I don't see why black people should be able to use it and not other races. I can see why it would be offensive to some people but personally it doesn't offend me unless you hate my race, and every time people had said it to me, they were talking casually or in a joking manner.

esaul17
03-18-2008, 04:46 AM
Okay, I guess some people can take it as a joke so if it can be taken as such between two people then that is fine. But the words real meaning is that of a derogatory term, so it would have to be said in private, as someone who overheard could be offended.

Holiday
03-27-2008, 05:40 AM
What is true about cursing is that it really is a curse.

I know COUNTLESS times I have said "Fuck You!" to my bf b/c I was mad or annoyed, and something bad happens. Normally it means him getting hurt on something.

But it really is true, curses are very strong words. Be careful who you use them to. I've been really trying to get out of the habit of using them all the time.

Didn't you ever watch the South Park episode?


MECROB!

Tom
03-27-2008, 07:45 AM
Swearing is fine. But in excess it shows that you lack the ability to speak properly.

Seinfeld
03-28-2008, 05:32 PM
Swearing is fine. But in excess it shows that you lack the ability to speak properly.

I agree. I mean, people that curse a lot probably have the ability to speak properly...they just choose not to, which makes a pretty bad impression. I mean I have a friend, who is VERY smart and you should hear some of his rants. It's amazing he gets his point across in like 5 seconds. But when we're goofing off, he'll shout obscene stuff every time he gets the chance to and I could easily imagine not liking him, if I had gotten to know him like that.

mis
03-28-2008, 06:48 PM
Cursing are just words. But every word can have a different meaning or feeling to everyone and usually curse words are used at times of high emotion i.e really happy, pissed off, during an argument... so they mean something different every time they are said cause we say them in different tones and situations. I guess the smartest way to curse is to think about the person you are saying it to and the situation you are in, if you don't know the person who you are saying it to be prepared for any type of reaction.