No love from Foo Fighters?

[LPgator]

Article here (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment/orl-foos1108jan11,0,2722667.story) about the Foo Fighters, with a little jab about mash ups with Jay-Z.. I wonder who they could be talking about :ermm:
"We're going to get a little orchestra.
"I think its cool, in a way, with a bunch of kids, because it's exciting for them. I'd rather do that than do some mash-up with Jay-Z, with all due respect to Jay-Z. I think this fits more for us."

[Luke/Hellflame]

Article here (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment/orl-foos1108jan11,0,2722667.story) about the Foo Fighters, with a little jab about mash ups with Jay-Z.. I wonder who they could be talking about :ermm:

Yeah the Foo Fighters don't like LP. Dave Grohl has criticised the band in the past aswell.

I really don't see the point of making something out of it though. So they don't like LP, who gives a crap?

[Scotty]

I remember an instance where, if I'm not mistaken, he completely missed the point and criticised them for using samples, expecting them to recreate everything live.

Oh well, he's been no great shakes himself for, ooh, at least ten years now.

[Dedicated]

I disagree, Foo Fighters are awesome :lol:


Especially live :lol:

[Nick]

i like Select songs by the Foo Fighters

he sounds like the type of guy to not like LP because they are not simply a rock band.

[Timothy]

i like Select songs by the Foo Fighters

he sounds like the type of guy to not like LP because they are not simply a rock band.

Exactly. He said they used "backing tapes" which seems like such an antiquated term in the digital age. Lots of bands who use sampling and programming have to use laptops and stuff like that in their live shows. How does he expect them to replicate a reversed keyboard loop?

He's a great musician, but the shit-talking just comes off as jealous.

[Willstar]

I don't know if it's jealousy so much as it's a misunderstanding of their live shows.

Then again I've never heard a Foo Fighters song with chopped-up and reversed acoustic guitar, so I'm probably wrong.

[Luke/Hellflame]

I think Grohl is the kind of person who will never fully understand and accept that music is evolving all the time beyond the parallels of simple guitar, drums and bass.

If you look at Foo Fighters, they hardly ever step outside that zone. They're a very traditional rock band in one sense. They're a great band but they shouldn't be hating LP just because they were willing to experiment with their music and as a result have claimed a position as one of the biggest acts of the century so far.

[Dedicated]

I doubt it's jealousy considering that, from what I gather, Foo Fighters are doing a whole lot better than LP at the moment.

[Xenogenesis]

I doubt it's jealousy considering that, from what I gather, Foo Fighters are doing a whole lot better than LP at the moment.

Are we talking about sales wise or more like, how many years they've been around and their reputation and alike?

[Dedicated]

Are we talking about sales wise or more like, how many years they've been around and their reputation and alike?


Both. Didn't FF's latest album outsell MTM?


I may be wrong like, I usually am on these type of things :lol:

[Xenogenesis]

Both. Didn't FF's latest album outsell MTM?


I may be wrong like, I usually am on these type of things :lol:

I can't find any reliable and hard sources, but on Wikipedia it determines that Minutes To Midnight sold more than FF's new album. And I kind of don't buy how FF's album was only released in September and can outsell MTM. Maybe in the US but I don't think internationally. But whatever. >_>

[Dedicated]

I can't find any reliable and hard sources, but on Wikipedia it determines that Minutes To Midnight sold more than FF's new album. And I kind of don't buy how FF's album was only released in September and can outsell MTM. Maybe in the US but I don't think internationally. But whatever. >_>


Fair enough. To be honest, I have no idea when FF's album came out. Hell, I can't remember when MTM came out :lol:

The reason I thought it may have done better is that it got a load of nominations whereas MTM got fuck all :lol:

Anyway, you're right and I was wrong. :)

[Xenogenesis]

Fair enough. To be honest, I have no idea when FF's album came out. Hell, I can't remember when MTM came out :lol:

The reason I thought it may have done better is that it got a load of nominations whereas MTM got fuck all :lol:

Anyway, you're right and I was wrong. :)

Yeah, I guess the media didn't really like the new album released. I can somewhat figure out why, but partially cannot. I just guess professional reviewers frankly just don't have that same feeling of being emotionally connected with the music. Also most people compare their previous works with Minutes To Midnight; thus lowering its score and review due to change.

But just you wait! The fourth album by Linkin Park will rock this world! >_< :lol:

[Snail]

But just you wait! The fourth album by Linkin Park will rock this world! >_< :lol:

YESSSS!!!!!

And oh yeah..on topic.

Atleast Linkin Park had the honor of sharing the stage with Paul Mccartney. La la la~ lol.

[Harlz]

I think Grohl is the kind of person who will never fully understand and accept that music is evolving all the time beyond the parallels of simple guitar, drums and bass.

If you look at Foo Fighters, they hardly ever step outside that zone. They're a very traditional rock band in one sense. They're a great band but they shouldn't be hating LP just because they were willing to experiment with their music and as a result have claimed a position as one of the biggest acts of the century so far.

100% exactly my thoughts.

[Christopher]

I think Grohl is the kind of person who will never fully understand and accept that music is evolving all the time beyond the parallels of simple guitar, drums and bass.

If you look at Foo Fighters, they hardly ever step outside that zone. They're a very traditional rock band in one sense. They're a great band but they shouldn't be hating LP just because they were willing to experiment with their music and as a result have claimed a position as one of the biggest acts of the century so far.

Very true, although I have to say that Linkin Park aren't as inventive like they used to be on Hybrid Theory when it comes to recorded music but they seem to get better still when it comes to playing live. Which makes Grohl's comments look completely ridiculous...

I have a great deal of respect for Dave Grohl, partly because how he keeps succeeding to make amazing music, partly because of his reputation as a music, partly because he's amazing live and partly because he keeps making "traditional" rock music.

[Dr. Octagonapus]

...I don't see this as a jab at LP at all.

[LPgator]

I would just like to say that I love your sig St0f. Evangeline Lilly is destined to be my wife

[Todd]

Atleast Linkin Park had the honor of sharing the stage with Paul Mccartney. La la la~ lol.

And then Jay-Z came out and fucked it up and completely disgraced Yesterday and everything else the Beatles had ever done.

[DigitalRosh]

^ "Take it uptown!"

"Uh, uh, uh, that's right! BE-LIEVE!"

[Harlz]

And then Jay-Z came out and fucked it up and completely disgraced Yesterday and everything else the Beatles had ever done.

Yea he tends to do that.
Hip hop artists... *facepalm*

[Todd]

;748374']Yea he tends to do that.
Hip hop artists... *facepalm*

Oh, I've come to terms with the fact that hip hop artists (and I use that term loosely because I don't think much of what they do is art) ruin just about anything they touch. But to ruin Chester's once-in-a-lifetime chance to sing one of the best songs of all time with THE Sir Paul McCartney, that's just....hell, I don't even know if words can describe what it is. If he had one single functioning brain cell, he would've known to back off and let Yesterday be sung the way it was meant to be sung.

[Xenogenesis]

Oh, I've come to terms with the fact that hip hop artists (and I use that term loosely because I don't think much of what they do is art) ruin just about anything they touch. But to ruin Chester's once-in-a-lifetime chance to sing one of the best songs of all time with THE Sir Paul McCartney, that's just....hell, I don't even know if words can describe what it is. If he had one single functioning brain cell, he would've known to back off and let Yesterday be sung the way it was meant to be sung.

Yeah but I'd figure that it would seem awkward for Jay-Z to just stand there and do nothing while the two were singing. Of course he can just back off somewhere else away from the stage momentarily.

[Scotty]

And then Jay-Z came out and fucked it up and completely disgraced Yesterday and everything else the Beatles had ever done.
Overreacting much?

[Rachel]

And then Jay-Z came out and fucked it up and completely disgraced Yesterday and everything else the Beatles had ever done.

Jay-Z didn't make the Grey Album.

Danger Mouse mashed it up. He took The White Album and The Black Album and mashed it up.

Neither the Beatles nor Jay Z had any idea, until EMI ordered a cease and desist on Danger Mouse.

[Luke/Hellflame]

Oh, I've come to terms with the fact that hip hop artists (and I use that term loosely because I don't think much of what they do is art) ruin just about anything they touch. But to ruin Chester's once-in-a-lifetime chance to sing one of the best songs of all time with THE Sir Paul McCartney, that's just....hell, I don't even know if words can describe what it is. If he had one single functioning brain cell, he would've known to back off and let Yesterday be sung the way it was meant to be sung.

Uh-huh. And I guess after Jay-Z chose LP to do Collision Course with, which helped the band win a grammy, he was just gonna step off the stage?

Niether Chester or Sir Paul seemed to have a problem with the performance anyway. This whole argument is nothing more than a storm in a teacup and not to mention completely off-topic. If Chester and Sir Paul were angry at Jay-Z for his role in the performance then perhaps it's a valid point. However it was a piece of music history seeing an iconic vocalist of the past, possibly the best vocalist of the present and a Hip-Hop icon share the same stage and I think that was something pretty special.

I think you need to choose your words more carefully in future Todd. You've have some strong beliefs which in a way is admirable, but Hip-Hop artists are artists whether you agree with that or not. Sure enough the majority don't know fuck all about playing an instrument etc. however in these modern times it's been proven time and time again that instruments aren't vital in modern music.

Saying that Hip-Hop artists aren't artists is not only disrespectful to them, but to those who listen to Hip-Hop. Perhaps in future if you don't have anything positive to contribute to the thread then maybe you shouldn't contribute to it at all.

[Chris(tmas)]

Jay-Z didn't make the Grey Album.

Danger Mouse mashed it up. He took The White Album and The Black Album and mashed it up.

Neither the Beatles nor Jay Z had any idea, until EMI ordered a cease and desist on Danger Mouse.
I think they're talking about the Grammy Awards performing:lol:

[Rachel]

I think they're talking about the Grammy Awards performing:lol:

Yes, but he could also be talking about the Grey Album, since that's where this whole mash-up bullshit started from.

[Todd]

No, I'm talking about the Grammy performance.

[Chris(tmas)]

Yes, but he could also be talking about the Grey Album, since that's where this whole mash-up bullshit started from.
Well, Dave was talking about the mashup between Linkin Park and Jay-Z, nog The Beatles and Jay-Z :lol:

[Rachel]

No, I'm talking about the Grammy performance.

Thank you for the clarification.

I didn't see the Grammy performance, to be honest :lol: I didn't even know about it until reading this thread.

[steve12]

Dave Groels one of those guys you have to respect for what he's done (WWHHHHhhhhaaaaaattt i'vvvveeee ddooooooonneee) but he talks crap :)

[Luke/Hellflame]

Dave Groels one of those guys you have to respect for what he's done (WWHHHHhhhhaaaaaattt i'vvvveeee ddooooooonneee) but he talks crap :)

That was one of the worst posts I've seen in my life. :lol:

[think i'm a fire engine]

...I don't see this as a jab at LP at all.

Neither do I, because I think he's right: a collaboration with Jay-Z and Foo-Fighters doesn't sound like a good idea to me at all.

He doesn't even mention LP or whether or not he thinks a collaboration with Jay-Z was the right thing for them.

[LPgator]

I just found it interesting, I have nothing against the Foo Fighters, I'm a big fan of theirs and saw them in concert last week and it was a very good show. LP > Foo tho :)

[Harlz]

I just found it interesting, I have nothing against the Foo Fighters, I'm a big fan of theirs and saw them in concert last week and it was a very good show. LP > Foo tho :)

An LP fansite is probably the only place you can say that and get away with it :lol:

[Scotty]

;749034']An LP fansite is probably the only place you can say that and get away with it :lol:
Foo Fighters aren't always that well respected either.


And the way Grohl put it made it seem as if he was implying that any rock band working with Jay-Z would be a bad thing, with whichever band being specifically at fault for anything bad about it... it's hard to word, haha. I'm sure he could have just said "We don't think a collaboration between us and a hip-hop artist would work that well" if he actually meant that. I'm probably wrong but the former is what he seemed to be implying, to me at least.

[Hahninator]

...I don't see this as a jab at LP at all.

I don't either.

Dave Grohl is one of the most talented musicians ever and I totally respect him. I saw Foo live 3 days ago and they kick fucking ass. Their live set owns LPs in a way, but I can't say that because I'd get attacked lol. They use no samples live...they play all their music and they do really well. At their show they had an acoustic stage and they did half rock and half acoustic...it was VERY impressive. LP is of course my life but I'm just saying, FF rock live and they rock hard. Dave is amazing. Don't hate on the Foo, they rule.

[Scotty]

They use no samples live...they play all their music and they do really well.
The point of the whole sampling thing is that LP actually use samples in their studio recordings that can't be reproduced just like that, so for them it's necessary to use them live, whereas the Foo Fighters don't :P

[the_chemist]

i get that. :) still, it's not fair for dave grohl to bash them on that. hell, how would you play a reversed acoustic guitar part live?

[Harlz]

i get that. :) still, it's not fair for dave grohl to bash them on that. hell, how would you play a reversed acoustic guitar part live?

Thats the thing, Dave Grohl wouldn't.
As much as I love the Foo Fighters, he sure isn't doing anything that hasn't been done 204509 times before.
Or even attempting to.

[the_chemist]

*bump, 'cause i feel like resurrecting this* hell, dave grohl is down with trent reznor and NIN uses samples live ... :rolleyes:

[ThunderPX]

I think this quote was taken somewhat out of context. Dave Grohl was basically saying "Yeah, we're doing The Pretender with an orchestra. It's a gimmick, but so was that thing Linkin Park did with Jay-Z. This is just a gimmick that suits us better."

I also agree that he might have misunderstood the way LP perform live. It probably would have been better to direct that jab at, say, Tiesto, who basically just pushes a button and jumps around for the rest of the song.

[Top2Bottom]

This quote from Dave Grohl sure has been heavily analysed. From him saying something about not wanting to do a performance with Jay-Z, it's rapidly morphed into him not respecting LP and Jay stuffing up everything. Not to mention the entire careers of the beatles

[Todd]

*bump, 'cause i feel like resurrecting this* hell, dave grohl is down with trent reznor and NIN uses samples live ... :rolleyes:


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