M2M clearly not emo

[McLovin]

I'm sick of kids who have no idea what "emo" music even sounds like labeling M2M as "emo". There's WAY too many of these on the official message board, and I really don't want to see that on this board. People throw that term around in such an ignorant and prejudiced way. They use the term to demean music that they don't like, or even demean a style that seems different. The term is used WAY too loosely and in utter ignorance and hate. The new LP album is SO far from emo, so please stop using the word to blindly follow other haters.

[the_chemist]

yeah, it's good to hear someone other than myself saying that, man! :D 'cause i've been repeating myself for a while. ;) i hate the word and i strongly hate the label and it's nice to know i'm not alone.

[McLovin]

yeah, it's good to hear someone other than myself saying that, man! :D 'cause i've been repeating myself for a while. ;) i hate the word and i strongly hate the label and it's nice to know i'm not alone.

yeah dude i just can't deal with the immaturity on the LP board. it's just little kids being immature, hateful, and closed-minded in every aspect.

perhaps this is an ignorant stereotype in itself, but i really don't want to deal with those kids on that board anymore :)

[Harlz]

It couldn't be any further from emo. People are idiots.
:cloud:

[Arlene]

:lol: I definitley agree with you guys. This album is so not emo!

[CHW42]

The only song that comes close to being emo on it is Bleed It Out, which is about cutting yourselves...The rest are just emotional songs like the rest in LP's past library. Nowadays people think if you talk about emotion even a little bit it's emo, how shallow and stupid.

[blueeye]

yeah dude i just can't deal with the immaturity on the LP board. it's just little kids being immature, hateful, and closed-minded in every aspect.

perhaps this is an ignorant stereotype in itself, but i really don't want to deal with those kids on that board anymore :)

Exactly. That sadly is the reason why i'm not on it anymore cause i just get annoyed by those people.

[Importskyline22]

The only song that comes close to being emo on it is Bleed It Out, which is about cutting yourselves...


No not really. Just because he says "bleed it out" dosnt mean to literally bleed. It very well could mean throu tears or sweat. Im bleeding out my emotions.

If he said "I cut myself to bleed it out" that would be a differnt story. But no, i dont see any where that it would be about cutting yourself.

[Mark]

The only song that comes close to being emo on it is Bleed It Out, which is about cutting yourselves...

Deduction of 4000 points for taking that too literally.

[Scotty]

I bet if HT or Meteora were released now it'd be dismissed as emo as well.

[Colonel Sanders]

It's clearly none of the above, it pwns all labels and genres. It is Linkin Park.

[ProEdge]

Although I don't listen to emo, I have heard it. And I'm sure I'll get bombed for this one but the only song that comes even close to sounding emo is Valentines Day. That's probably it though.

[CHW42]

No not really. Just because he says "bleed it out" dosnt mean to literally bleed. It very well could mean throu tears or sweat. Im bleeding out my emotions.

If he said "I cut myself to bleed it out" that would be a differnt story. But no, i dont see any where that it would be about cutting yourself.

Read the lyrics....he says "I've opened up these scars, I'll make you face this, I've pulled myself apart"

[Scotty]

Read the lyrics....he says "I've opened up these scars, I'll make you face this, I've pulled myself apart"
I take it you don't know what a metaphor is.

[Importskyline22]

Read the lyrics....he says "I've opened up these scars, I'll make you face this, I've pulled myself apart"

I agree with what dean says, Its a metaphor.

"open up these scars, ill make you face it" would mean, im coming otu with my problems, im im revealing to you what has hurt me.

[BeneathYourSkin]

I agree with what dean says, Its a metaphor.

"open up these scars, ill make you face it" would mean, im coming otu with my problems, im im revealing to you what has hurt me.

Totally agree...without the spelling mistakes. Bleed It Out has nothing to do with literal self mutilation. Mental? Maybe.

[CHW42]

LP's lyrics can mean a lot of stuff, people have different views and I understand...but clearly, metaphor or not that song can be interperated as emo. I am not saying LP is emo...I'm saying that song is emo, I love LP and I would never bash them. All the songs have different meanings, would you believe that What I've Done had the meaning of suicide, or putting your life to an end? I didn't until I saw that in the booklet..

[Harlz]

Its a metaphor :rolleyes:

:cloud:

[Pr3D]

Linkin Park is def not emo... and bleed it out is def a metaphor.

Although they are going to tour with 'My Chemical Romance' it could give them that associated image - and it wouldn't help that linkin park's song are emotionally based. But anyone with half a brain can see that LP aren't emo.

[McLovin]

LP's lyrics can mean a lot of stuff, people have different views and I understand...but clearly, metaphor or not that song can be interperated as emo. I am not saying LP is emo...I'm saying that song is emo, I love LP and I would never bash them. All the songs have different meanings, would you believe that What I've Done had the meaning of suicide, or putting your life to an end? I didn't until I saw that in the booklet..

Even if the song has to do with self-mutilation, the song is a rap-rock hoedown. A prevailing stereotype of "emo" kids is that they cut themselves, but that is only an ignorant stereotype. While some people who are addicted to self-mutilation may like "emo" music, that does not make those people "emo".

Emo is not a type of people. If anyone calls a person "emo", they are probably misusing the word. Emo is a type of music, usually with high vocals and acoustic/clean guitars, with lyrics that wallow in self-pity and make remarks towards girls that are melodramatic and hurtful. See: Rites of Spring, Dashboard Confessional, maybe even Something Corporate.

"Bleed It Out" has nothing to do with that style of music. While I can see how the person who said "Valentine's Day" is a bit "emo" sees similarities in lyrical style, the song still isn't in the emo genre.

[CHW42]

Even if the song has to do with self-mutilation, the song is a rap-rock hoedown. A prevailing stereotype of "emo" kids is that they cut themselves, but that is only an ignorant stereotype. While some people who are addicted to self-mutilation may like "emo" music, that does not make those people "emo".

Emo is not a type of people. If anyone calls a person "emo", they are probably misusing the word. Emo is a type of music, usually with high vocals and acoustic/clean guitars, with lyrics that wallow in self-pity and make remarks towards girls that are melodramatic and hurtful. See: Rites of Spring, Dashboard Confessional, maybe even Something Corporate.

"Bleed It Out" has nothing to do with that style of music. While I can see how the person who said "Valentine's Day" is a bit "emo" sees similarities in lyrical style, the song still isn't in the emo genre.

Misuse of the word happens all the time, to where now anytime people want to die or cut themselves is emo. And in that case this song fits in right. When Bleed It Out becomes a single, emo will be spread all over LP by suburban white kids who watch MTV all day. It's gonna happen...you just can't help it.

[BeneathYourSkin]

Misuse of the word happens all the time, to where now anytime people want to die or cut themselves is emo. And in that case this song fits in right. When Bleed It Out becomes a single, emo will be spread all over LP by suburban white kids who watch MTV all day. It's gonna happen...you just can't help it.

Excuse me, but do you ever listen to them singing the song? Who could be SMILING with something emo? I know I wouldn't be able to, and I'm pretty sure if it weren't metaphor, they would have made this song slower and sound a lot less fun. This song as a whole does NOT fit in with the emo mind-scape.

And, can you stop generalizing so much and using such definite language? You don't know the right answer any more than we do.

[Importskyline22]

IF it was an emo song, they wouldent be arriving at a get together at someones house (as the outro of leave out and into of bleed it out implys).

I garuntee you if they make it into a video, it will be very similar to the X-cutioners 'its goin down' video. Cause thats the vibe i get from bleed it out.

[BeneathYourSkin]

IF it was an emo song, they wouldent be arriving at a get together at someones house (as the outro of leave out and into of bleed it out implys).

I garuntee you if they make it into a video, it will be very similar to the X-cutioners 'its goin down' video. Cause thats the vibe i get from bleed it out.

I totally agree with you on all points. I actually see this video going more like the first Points of Authority video where they took live footage and put it in the mix.

[Importskyline22]

I totally agree with you on all points. I actually see this video going more like the first Points of Authority video where they took live footage and put it in the mix.

Haha, i just looke dup that video on youtube cause i didnt remember it, along with paper cut.....good lord..they were so young! lol

[Arlene]

Haha off topic, but we were watching SNL when Linkin Park were performing, and my brother came out into the living room to listen to it too (I introduced my family to LP) and when it had a close up of Chester he was like "Man, he looks old!" and I was like "Wow, he kinda does...but they still rock hard!" haha, yea yea off topic, but Importskyline22's comment about them being so young long ago made me think of that. :lol:

[EagleMorph]

Minutes to Midnight is far from emo, and I'm glad there is at least one Linkin Park fansite that recognizes that. My immune system has an all-points bulletin out on my eyes for reading the LPMB and killing brain cells from the stupidity over there.

Linkin Park has long said that they did not belong in any one genre. It's part of the reason why they wanted to do a completely different album.

Well, they've finally made an album that cannot be classified into a genre. Sure, it will be put in the rock section of music stores, but beyond that, it hits far too many genres in each song, let alone the whole album.

The only classification that this album fits into is "damn good!"

[Fatal]

This band is in no way emo and it never has. Your right, kids don't know what emo music really is. I feel where your coming from. I hate having to hear "Linkin Park is emo" it pains me to hear such a thing.

[NoBrain2k]

Thing is loads of bands are called emo these days and many of them sound nothing like each other. For that reason Linkin Park will continue to be called emo by people who don't understand.

To me they're a modern rock band. And an effin' good one at that.

[Fleur de Lys]

Read the lyrics....he says "I've opened up these scars, I'll make you face this, I've pulled myself apart"

It's about freaking out on the stage and let all the anger out. By opening up his scars he means that he sings about all his past, I'm sure that's what the lyrics are intended to be like.

And I agree that the album is not emo. Only Leave Out All The Rest sounds emo but the lyrics are not.

[Harlz]

Only Leave Out All The Rest sounds emo but the lyrics are not.

Your kidding right?

Go listen to what is considered an 'emo' band these days (eg. The Used, Atreyu, whatever) and then try and tell me Leave Out All The Rest sounds emo.

Soft rock does not, in any way = 'emo'.

[Gage]

I'm sick of kids who have no idea what "emo" music even sounds like labeling M2M as "emo". There's WAY too many of these on the official message board, and I really don't want to see that on this board. People throw that term around in such an ignorant and prejudiced way. They use the term to demean music that they don't like, or even demean a style that seems different. The term is used WAY too loosely and in utter ignorance and hate. The new LP album is SO far from emo, so please stop using the word to blindly follow other haters.

:rolleyes: Thanks for helping clear this up. But, unfortunately, we'll still find some people calling Minutes to Midnight the start of Linkin Park going down the emo road. Last I knew, LP was a rock band not an emo band!

[Cuidado314]

Yeah, and last I knew, they were atop the Modern Rock charts, not the Modern Emo Rock charts.





*Disclaimer: I mean this as a joke. I know the Modern Emo Rock charts don't exist, and I know that some people say that Emo is classified as a form of Rock. I took this into consideration with this post. I'm writing this disclaimer because I know there are people out there that just like to respond with ignorant posts just to prove someone wrong. This is to prevent that.

Once again, it's a joke. Don't take it to heart, people who enjoy listening to emo-ish music. I have no intention on offending you.

[the_chemist]

you know, this thread should be merged with this (http://www.lpassociation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25247) one. :rolleyes: or vice versa, depending on whichever came first. that said, there's a post over on that thread linking to this one, so ... ah, whatever

[McLovin]

;666726']Your kidding right?

Go listen to what is considered an 'emo' band these days (eg. The Used, Atreyu, whatever) and then try and tell me Leave Out All The Rest sounds emo.

Soft rock does not, in any way = 'emo'.

The Used infuse some emo/screamo elements into their music, but they're far from purely emo. Atreyu is post-hardcore.

[1996_LP]

"Part Of Me" probably is the only LP song that even comes close to being called 'emo' but only in its lyrics. But even that's a long shot as its about sucide and the band wrote it about one of Mikes friends who was adicted to cutting himself.
LP are a dark band, they've even admited it, but they are no were near becoming a band in that 'so called' genre.
Their too good for that.

[oogaly678]

Even if the song has to do with self-mutilation, the song is a rap-rock hoedown. A prevailing stereotype of "emo" kids is that they cut themselves, but that is only an ignorant stereotype. While some people who are addicted to self-mutilation may like "emo" music, that does not make those people "emo".

Emo is not a type of people. If anyone calls a person "emo", they are probably misusing the word. Emo is a type of music, usually with high vocals and acoustic/clean guitars, with lyrics that wallow in self-pity and make remarks towards girls that are melodramatic and hurtful. See: Rites of Spring, Dashboard Confessional, maybe even Something Corporate.

"Bleed It Out" has nothing to do with that style of music. While I can see how the person who said "Valentine's Day" is a bit "emo" sees similarities in lyrical style, the song still isn't in the emo genre.

You said emo is a type of music, usually with high vocals and accoustic/clean guitars, etc....

That is exactly what linkin park has turned in to, nearly every song has that.

Here's a quote from Chester:

We're not the Grateful Dead or Pink Floyd. We're Linkin Park, and we cut all the fat out. We don't do guitar or drum solos.
Chester Bennington

We don't do guitar solos? That thinking seemed to change for minutes to midnight, as linkin park changed from a mix of rock and hip hop to, hate to say it dude, mostly soft rock and emo, which made me not like m2m nearly as much as HT and Meteora.

Just my opinion.

[Fear]

I don't mean to use this word on this forum, but I FUCKING hate the word emo. It's so stupid, not even how people classify music as, just how people call people ''emo'' too. I was at lunch one day in school and just because I was standing and not talking to anyone while listening to music, I was classified as emo. Very stupid. And perhaps the stupidest thing is to call LP emo at all....the word is just so....ugh!

[Xenogenesis]

You said emo is a type of music, usually with high vocals and accoustic/clean guitars, etc....

That is exactly what linkin park has turned in to, nearly every song has that.

Here's a quote from Chester:

We're not the Grateful Dead or Pink Floyd. We're Linkin Park, and we cut all the fat out. We don't do guitar or drum solos.
Chester Bennington

We don't do guitar solos? That thinking seemed to change for minutes to midnight, as linkin park changed from a mix of rock and hip hop to, hate to say it dude, mostly soft rock and emo, which made me not like m2m nearly as much as HT and Meteora.

Just my opinion.

Its not emo. You don't hear lyrics saying "I hate myself and I hate you all!" (that was something similar from the Crawling demo) or "My girlfriend hates me" or extremely overdone emotional feelings.

Also Nu-Metal bands rarely have guitar solos. Originally Brad said that he didn't want to show off but because they were making a change; they took a risk to change their style. And not every track off Minutes To Midnight was soft; at least not entirely.

[eddie_ka]

Oh Jesus, I ...just read the whole thread. Ahhaha.

So here's my two cents:

One: Emo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_%28music%29) IS a genre of rock music. And, while I'll be the first to admit it, yes, it does upset me that LP's being called emo, it's literally not a bad thing.. it's all in the way the word is thrown around. And yes, a couple of you already made mention of this.. but perhaps giving an example would help some of you understand.

So here's my slighly off-topic example: The word gay.
The word gay means happy/homosexuality. And while I haven't heard the word being misused in a while, I'll have to admit that matters came to a point where I'd hear it being used as an offensive word EVERY SINGLE DAY. The word gay was being used to replace such words as stupid, dull, uninteresting, etc. (ex: omg!!!1 your sooo gay!)

My point is this: At the end of the day, the dictionary's original definition of said word remains the same, and no slang/informal form of it can change that.

The word "emo", much like the word "gay", is just, and it's sad to say, "trendy/slang/mainstream". It's overused, misused, and turning into a cliche. ..and while I haven't lost my point, I don't know how to better explain myself, but I hope you catch my drift.



:offtopic:
TWO: Please don't look at my avatar and automatically label me "emo". If you do choose to label me so, use the word correctly. Call me an emo because I'm a true artist, because I express my thoughts visually in a tastful/conceptual form, because I'm pursuing an art education, NOT because of the way I dress.

Because, after all, the word emo comes from "emotional".. and there's nothing wrong with being a bit sensitive *tear* It would be the same as if I were to say that I'm gay... there's nothing wrong with it. Again, it's all in the way we use words.

Anyone disagree?
If so, PM me or start a new thread somewhere else.. I have a feeling this could get off OFF topic.

I hope I didn't piss anyone off.. and that my rant gets approved. I'm kindda new here :p

[Harlz]

The Used infuse some emo/screamo elements into their music, but they're far from purely emo. Atreyu is post-hardcore.

I'll give you Atreyu, but if The Used aren't 'emo', then I have no idea who are.

[Xenogenesis]

:offtopic:
TWO: Please don't look at my avatar and automatically label me "emo". If you do choose to label me so, use the word correctly. Call me an emo because I'm a true artist, because I express my thoughts visually in a tastful/conceptual form, because I'm pursuing an art education, NOT because of the way I dress.

Because, after all, the word emo comes from "emotional".. and there's nothing wrong with being a bit sensitive *tear* It would be the same as if I were to say that I'm gay... there's nothing wrong with it. Again, it's all in the way we use words.

Anyone disagree?
If so, PM me or start a new thread somewhere else.. I have a feeling this could get off OFF topic.

I hope I didn't piss anyone off.. and that my rant gets approved. I'm kindda new here :p

Touchy. :lol:

[Stalker]

Touchy. :lol:

I should say "Ouchh*

:lol:

But she's right.

If we use the word "emo" today, it means emotional and we are emotional some time..

*Props to eddie_ka*

[eddie_ka]

*Props to eddie_ka*

Ty ^_^

[Todd]

This thread needs more emo cat.

http://www.toddscrap.com/emocat.jpg

There. That's better.

[...Lauren?]

Okay, as far as the label (fashion/subculture) part of 'emo' goes, if someone goes around calling themself emo and trying to make a point of their emo-ness, and shows people pictures of self-mutilation, then can I give them shit about being 'emo'? Seriously, since when was it cool, or 'hardcore' to be suicidal?

Anyways, I've only heard a few of the songs on M2M, but they're definitly not emo. As far as the music goes, it's very far from emo, and LPs lyrics have always been a bit emotional and 'Bleed It Out' isn't meant to be taken literally. As best I can tell M2M is modern rock, but for the most part it defies labels and definitions.

I remember some people speculating that 'Breaking The Habit' was about self-mutilation, but I don't remember anyone calling it 'emo' because of that. The reason is probably because the album came out in 2003, before the 'emo' fad really went into full swing.

EDIT: Before anyone gets all mad, I realize that being a cutter and being 'emo' ORIGINALLY weren't supposed to be the same thing, but so many stupid 14-year-olds are running around making tiny cuts for everyone to see and thinking that makes them emo. Emo was supposed to just mean 'emotional', listens to mainly emo music, and is probably artistically inclined, and didn't really have anything to do with fashion or cutting. But somewhere around 2005, a bunch of middle-schoolers started thinking it was cool to cut yourself and wear goth-rip-off clothes from Hot Topic (not that there's really anything wrong with Hot Topic in itself), and they decided to label it 'emo'. And going around cutting yourself and thinking it makes you cool pisses me off so much. If you're really suicidal, fine, I understand, but if you're just doing it to fit in with your peers, then you should just.... I don't know. Just stop showing me pictures of your bloodied razor.

Now the word is just entirely overused and annoying.

[Jordan]

emo is a fashion statement and a stupid one at that. If you can tell the people who wear emo from the people who wear goth fashion you must be jesus (hope i don't offend anyone).

[Mark]

emo is a fasion statement and a stupid one at that. If you can tell the people who wear emo from the people who wear goth fasion you must be jesus (hope i don't offend anyone).

This further proves that the term "emo" is way too overgeneralized. I don't agree with what you define emo, but there's probably dozens of other self-definitions from other people.

Furthermore, if you can't tell the difference between what most people call gothic and what people call emo, I'm not sure if you know what you're talking about and are basing your judgements on stereotypes, thus making you somewhat misinformed and prone to overgeneralization.

[Harlz]

I'd have to agree with link_in_the_park to tell the truth.
What country are you from, link_in_the_park?

[Jordan]

Australia, by reading whats beside your post same as you. Maybe Emo is different down here.

[McLovin]

;667189']I'll give you Atreyu, but if The Used aren't 'emo', then I have no idea who are.

Dashboard Confessional, Saves the Day, Something Corporate, Rites of Spring, etc.

[Harlz]

Australia, by reading whats beside your post same as you. Maybe Emo is different down here.

Thats what I thought. Maybe we have a slightly different definition or 'emo' culture to what they have in America.

@ Rather Red: Yea, I would've put them in the same genre as The Used...
Maybe I don't know enough about these bands or their songs to make a fair judgement though.

[Gage]

Who cares, LP isn't going emo, period. Who here agrees it's pointless to carry on this conversation and also finds it extremely annoying that some people actually defend LP is going emo?

[jonedj82]

i think a really large description of bands being "emo" depends on how the singer sings. if you compare the actual voices of the lead singers of certain emo bands, to linkin park, you fill find a world of difference. lyrics do not make somthing emo, it is how you portray it.

[Chris Luke]

You people can't be serious. Okay, besides techno and electronica, every form of music is "emotional". Besides, real "emo" music is nothing that is defined in the mainstream. The "emo" scene, which I was pretty much baptized, in wasn't about singing about your lost girl with whiney voices, it was about unity. Being in small venues with friends and not having this aggressive form that was hardcore punk music.

Yeah, I always love educating the masses on this crap. Who gives a fuck, just enjoy the damn music that is put out, stop putting labels these ludicorius labels to it and just call it rock music. The album was a dissappointment anyways, in my opinon.

[Nick]

Okay, as far as the label (fashion/subculture) part of 'emo' goes, if someone goes around calling themself emo and trying to make a point of their emo-ness, and shows people pictures of self-mutilation, then can I give them shit about being 'emo'? Seriously, since when was it cool, or 'hardcore' to be suicidal?

Anyways, I've only heard a few of the songs on M2M, but they're definitly not emo. As far as the music goes, it's very far from emo, and LPs lyrics have always been a bit emotional and 'Bleed It Out' isn't meant to be taken literally. As best I can tell M2M is modern rock, but for the most part it defies labels and definitions.

I remember some people speculating that 'Breaking The Habit' was about self-mutilation, but I don't remember anyone calling it 'emo' because of that. The reason is probably because the album came out in 2003, before the 'emo' fad really went into full swing.

EDIT: Before anyone gets all mad, I realize that being a cutter and being 'emo' ORIGINALLY weren't supposed to be the same thing, but so many stupid 14-year-olds are running around making tiny cuts for everyone to see and thinking that makes them emo. Emo was supposed to just mean 'emotional', listens to mainly emo music, and is probably artistically inclined, and didn't really have anything to do with fashion or cutting. But somewhere around 2005, a bunch of middle-schoolers started thinking it was cool to cut yourself and wear goth-rip-off clothes from Hot Topic (not that there's really anything wrong with Hot Topic in itself), and they decided to label it 'emo'. And going around cutting yourself and thinking it makes you cool pisses me off so much. If you're really suicidal, fine, I understand, but if you're just doing it to fit in with your peers, then you should just.... I don't know. Just stop showing me pictures of your bloodied razor.

Now the word is just entirely overused and annoying.

yup yup.
I just got out of Middle school, freshman next year WOOT, anyway, throughout my 3 years being in middle school, some kids thought it was cool to be defined as Emo by other kids. And my school Emo is defined as wearing black clothes, chains and listen to basically any heavy music. That pisses me off because i love heavy music, and i do tend to wear black shirts because truth is, i like to stay warm. but people have called me Emo and it pisses me off, 1. because i am not a emotional train wreck, 2.(they also ASSUME if you listen to heavy music you cut yourself) i have never cut myself and i hate seeing blood

my school is all about stereotypes

[Zak]

I'd say the lyrics on this album are more silly than 'emo'. Did anyone else listen to this album and say, out loud, "Ha ha...Oooh my God..."?

[Harlz]

I'd say the lyrics on this album are more silly than 'emo'. Did anyone else listen to this album and say, out loud, "Ha ha...Oooh my God..."?

Nope. Not at all.
On the other hand, I do listen to Somewhere I Belong, and One Step Closer now, and wonder why I ever thought they had good lyrics.

Not that I don't enjoy them.

[jonedj82]

i know right! they're old lyrics just feel dumb...i guess thats just cause im older now though

[...Lauren?]

yup yup.
I just got out of Middle school, freshman next year WOOT, anyway, throughout my 3 years being in middle school, some kids thought it was cool to be defined as Emo by other kids. And my school Emo is defined as wearing black clothes, chains and listen to basically any heavy music. That pisses me off because i love heavy music, and i do tend to wear black shirts because truth is, i like to stay warm. but people have called me Emo and it pisses me off, 1. because i am not a emotional train wreck, 2.(they also ASSUME if you listen to heavy music you cut yourself) i have never cut myself and i hate seeing blood

my school is all about stereotypes

That's weird, at my school if you wear chains and listen to heavy music you are Goth. 'Emos' in my area/city usually dress kinda preppy, but weara bit more black, ( nothing with chains or anything like that) and listen to punk pop, emo, and sometimes heavier stuff like screamo/post-hardcore. Then when you call them posers they'll say something like 'if I weren't emo I wouldn't cut myself'.

[Nick]

That's weird, at my school if you wear chains and listen to heavy music you are Goth. 'Emos' in my area/city usually dress kinda preppy, but weara bit more black, ( nothing with chains or anything like that) and listen to punk pop, emo, and sometimes heavier stuff like screamo/post-hardcore. Then when you call them posers they'll say something like 'if I weren't emo I wouldn't cut myself'.

i guess everywhere is different, but i still hate the word

[...Lauren?]

i guess everywhere is different, but i still hate the word

Well, I don't really hate the word, I just hate it's current usage.

[Urantia Girl]

Emo, scene, mod. There must be a billion different ways to call it and they all are being used the wrong way.

[esaul17]

I'd say the lyrics on this album are more silly than 'emo'. Did anyone else listen to this album and say, out loud, "Ha ha...Oooh my God..."?

Not that bad, but I was quite disappointed lol. In a lot of songs I just felt "Any 15 year old guy could have written this" lol. They had good songs, and the lyrics as a whole weren't awful, but some songs in particular just seemed kind of laughable.

Some of their older songs were laughable, but stuff like Part of Me and Forgotten have really great lyrics I think.

[McLovin]

;669743']Thats what I thought. Maybe we have a slightly different definition or 'emo' culture to what they have in America.

@ Rather Red: Yea, I would've put them in the same genre as The Used...
Maybe I don't know enough about these bands or their songs to make a fair judgement though.

yeah, i doubt you've heard enough of the used then. those other bands don't scream or have very hard guitars, the used have quite a few songs that are mostly screaming (box full of sharp objects, i'm a fake, sound effects and overdramatics, maybe memories)... plus the lyrical content is a lot different.



my school is all about stereotypes

the world is about stereotypes, it's humanity's job to escape them.

[Harlz]

This is somewhat off topic, but just look at the adds at bottom of the page!
"Emo Hairstyles"
"3D Emo Chat" :lol:

[blueeye]

Unfortunately many people are ignorant and not willing to educate themselves. Today "emo" is a popular word and everybody is using it without knowing the true meaning. And if that person doesn`t know what metaphor is, we have the statement "LP is emo." I really won`t explain why they are not emo cause i hope thats obvious.

As for the lyrics, i think they`ve evolved and they are getting better. Of course every person has his/her interpretation of it, but making fun of the lyrics is just disrespectful.

[duongtran]

i totally agree emotional songs are my favorite songs
songs without emotions are bland to me no meaning means no listen by my rules and i listen to emo music and the is a drastic driffrence

[EMI]

M2M is not emo! emo is the style for "one day". i think, that m2m is really one of the best albums in music! 'cause it is more than music!