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F-ck Casey
03-22-2006, 05:13 PM
WASHINGTON(AP) President Bush said Tuesday that American forces will remain in Iraq for years and it will be up to a future president to decide when to bring them all home. But defying critics and plunging polls, he declared, "I'm optimistic we'll succeed. If not, I'd pull our troops out."

The president rejected calls for the resignation of Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, chief architect of wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. "Listen, every war plan looks good on paper until you meet the enemy," Bush said, acknowledging mistakes as the United States was forced to switch tactics and change a reconstruction strategy that offered targets for insurgents.

He also rejected assertions by Iraq's former interim prime minister that the country had fallen into civil war amid sectarian violence that has left more than 1,000 Iraqis dead since the bombing last month of a Shiite Muslim shrine.

"This is a moment the Iraqis had a chance to fall apart and they didn't," Bush said, crediting religious and political leaders with restraint.

The president spoke for nearly an hour at a White House news conference, part of a new offensive to ease Americans' unhappiness with the war and fellow Republicans' anxiety about fall elections. He faced skeptical questions about Iraq during an appearance Monday in Cleveland, and plans another address soon on Iraq.

Public support for the war and for Bush himself has fallen in recent months, jeopardizing the political capital he claimed from his 2004 re-election victory. "I'd say I'm spending that capital on the war," Bush said.

The White House believes that people appreciate Bush's plainspoken approach even if they disagree with his decisions.

"I understand war creates concerns," the president said. "Nobody likes war. It creates a sense of uncertainty in the country."

Bush has adamantly refused to set a deadline for the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq. Asked if there would come a day when there would be no more U.S. forces in Iraq, Bush said, "That, of course, is an objective. And that will be decided by future presidents and future governments of Iraq."

Pressed on whether that meant a complete withdrawal would not happen during his presidency, Bush said, "I can only tell you that I will make decisions on force levels based upon what the commanders on the ground say."

White House officials worried Bush's remarks would be read as saying there would not be significant troop reductions during his presidency. They pointed to comments Sunday by Gen. George W. Casey, commander of U.S. forces in Iraq, who said he expected a substantial troop reduction "certainly over the course of 2006 and into 2007."

The Pentagon announced last December that U.S. force levels would be reduced from the baseline figure of about 138,000 to about 131,000 by the end of March. The total currently is 133,000. In late February the Pentagon told Congress that "it will be possible to consider" additional reductions as the political process moves forward and as Iraqi security forces gain experience. No timetable has been set for deciding on additional cuts.

More than 2,300 American troops have died in Iraq. At home, nearly four of five people, including 70 percent of Republicans, believe civil war will break out in Iraq, according to a recent AP-Ipsos poll.

"I am confident _ I believe, I'm optimistic we'll succeed," the president said. "If not, I'd pull our troops out. If I didn't believe we had a plan for victory I wouldn't leave our people in harm's way."

Bush said U.S. forces were essential for the stability of Iraq and restraining al-Qaida in the Middle East.

"Their objective for driving us out of Iraq is to have a place from which to launch their campaign to overthrow moderate governments in the Middle East, as well as to continue attacking places like the United States," he said.

Despite pleas from fellow Republicans, Bush has rejected calls for a White House staff shake-up, saying he was satisfied with his aides. He did not rule out bringing in a savvy Washington insider, as some have suggested, but said, "I'm not going to announce it right now." Aides said later he was not trying to signal any appointment.

Bush defended his administration's warrantless eavesdropping program whose legality has been questioned by Democrats and Republicans alike. Putting his remarks in a political context, he said, "Nobody from the Democratic Party has actually stood up and called for getting rid of the of the terrorist surveillance program."

Bush accused Wisconsin Sen. Russ Feingold of "needless partisanship" for urging censure of the president for authorizing the surveillance program.

On the economy, Bush sidestepped a direct answer when asked whether he was concerned about rising interest rates. He simply said the U.S. economy was very strong. He expressed disappointment that Congress shelved his Social Security overhaul and said the system won't be changed without the cooperation of Democrats and Republicans together.

I think, one day, in the future, we'll all collectively regret this decision.

I predict the next president (who is going to be a Republican, mark my words) will keep the troops there instead of creating an evacuation plan.

mathew51b
03-22-2006, 05:45 PM
yeh i heard this on the news this morning over here. i think that at the moment, they need to be there, but who knows whats gonna happen? being in there for what 3 more years is either gonna help significantly or be way bad for iraq. (and i feel it will do more bad than good)

Louis
03-23-2006, 02:53 AM
Without a doubt, Casey, you are right. The next president will most likely be a Republican. Why?

Let's see. Jeb Bush is running, and John McCain is running. Those are two big guys that will be running in the next election. Who's going to endorse them? No other than President George W. Bush. You might think, "The guy's an idiot." He's not. The guy's a great one-on-one speaker, and at times, a great public speaker. With an endorsement from George W. Bush, Jeb Bush and Senator McCain are sure to be top Republican candidates.

I think this is absolutely ridiculous. We need to start getting troops out now. Bit by bit. I'd prefer all troops to be out of Iraq by 2008.

If it's John McCain, the troops will probably be pulled out. I know he doesn't support the war like Bush does. He supports Bush (they're Republicans, what do you expect?) but I doubt he even thinks there is good in the war.

I don't think this is war anyway. This is more like suicide. That's just my opinion.

Todd
03-23-2006, 03:44 AM
Last time I checked, Jeb said he wasn't running....do you have proof otherwise?

I hope McCain wins the republican primary...I wouldn't vote for him, but I wouldn't be upset if he won.

MorningGlory1985
03-23-2006, 03:48 AM
If one thing comforts me it's the fact that George W. will always be remembered for this unpopular war. History judges leaders on how justified their decisions were. He will not go down as the triumphant anti-gay, anti-abortion, peace spreading savior that his neocon supporters believe he will. With 2/3 of the country against the handling of the war now he's made his destiny as one of the most incompotent men ever to hold that office, especially when later on our national security is threatened by nations such as North Korea, China, or Iran because our military still occupies Iraq.

Minus
03-23-2006, 04:09 AM
Well, if Stephen Colbert is right (and he usually is), he has already congratulated Bill Frist on winning the 2008 presidential election.

I wonder what he would do?

obiwanws2
03-24-2006, 04:41 PM
Well, if Stephen Colbert is right (and he usually is), he has already congratulated Bill Frist on winning the 2008 presidential election.

I wonder what he would do?
i saw that prediciton too.....well he got all the major oscars that he predicited right.....
who else might run for the democrats....


P.S. i say mcCain will probably win

Todd
03-24-2006, 06:23 PM
P.S. i say mcCain will probably win

McCain won't get the republican't nomination. He's socially moderate, not some christain right-wing anti-gay, anti-abortion, anti-everything else nutjob. Fiscally, he's conservative, but the republican'ts don't care about fiscal issues (look at all the money they've allowed Bush to spend), they just want someone in office who will help pass a constitutional amendment to ban everything the bible says is wrong.

Mark
03-24-2006, 08:09 PM
Well, if Stephen Colbert is right (and he usually is), he has already congratulated Bill Frist on winning the 2008 presidential election.

The Da Colbert Code never fails. :lol:

Minus
03-24-2006, 08:58 PM
The Da Colbert Code never fails. :lol:
SHH! Nobody is supposed to know about it!

savetomorrow
03-24-2006, 09:31 PM
http://cache.wonkette.com/images/mission%20accomplished.jpg

Anybody remember this? lol

MorningGlory1985
03-24-2006, 11:34 PM
I sure do, and it goes down in a long line of stupid things our President has done.

Todd - You're absolutely right on McCain, the radical right wing wants to continue imposing their will and beliefs on our country and McCain won't do it for them. I'd never vote for him anyway, he actually has the 3rd most conservative voting record in Congress and did actually endorse the South Dakota ban on abortions (just to pander to the radical right though) he plays to whatever side he wants. I hope another moderate comes out for the GOP, otherwise we'll be stuck with more neo-con bullshit if the Democrats can't grow a spine by then and learn how to win elections.