View Full Version : South Dakota Taking Away Womens Rights
Yeah, as long as we're taking away a woman's right to do what they want with their own body, why don't we also take away their right to vote, hold public office and work :rolleyes:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/02/23/politics/main1339393.shtml
mathew51b
02-23-2006, 04:10 PM
thats really bad. i mean, morally some people find it wrong, but leave it to the parents.
its not too hard to use a condom - so i dont see why things like this are such a big deal. if people played safe then this wouldnt even be an issue. the troubble with this is people get caught up in a moment and dont think of the end result... but this is a little harsh i guess
its not too hard to use a condom - so i dont see why things like this are such a big deal. if people played safe then this wouldnt even be an issue. the troubble with this is people get caught up in a moment and dont think of the end result... but this is a little harsh i guess
Condoms break. Or, what about rape? Maybe doctors determined the baby would be born with some sort of disorder? Or maybe 2 people wanted to have a baby and then something came up during the pregnancy and they couldn't financially support it.
Glenn
02-24-2006, 01:06 AM
Condoms break. Or, what about rape? Maybe doctors determined the baby would be born with some sort of disorder? Or maybe 2 people wanted to have a baby and then something came up during the pregnancy and they couldn't financially support it.
Exactly
This sounds like Massachusetts with the gay rights situation. As soon as we're the first state to legalize it, our asshole governor moves to ban it. The goddamn idiot was thinking of going for president.
User Name
02-24-2006, 01:27 AM
Yeah, as long as we're taking away a woman's right to do what they want with their own body
I've made mention of this in another thread on the same subject, but it's not exactly the way you're putting it, Todd. I mean, the embryo inside of a woman isn't exactly a part of the mother. Rather, it's its own seperate being that just so has to rely on her for nourishment as it grows inside.
Glenn
02-24-2006, 01:30 AM
I've made mention of this in another thread on the same subject, but it's not exactly the way you're putting it, Todd. I mean, the embryo inside of a woman isn't exactly a part of the mother. Rather, it's its own seperate being that just so has to rely on her for nourishment as it grows inside.
Yes but the woman is the figure that produces, whether it is their choice or not, the separate being.
I've made mention of this in another thread on the same subject, but it's not exactly the way you're putting it, Todd. I mean, the embryo inside of a woman isn't exactly a part of the mother. Rather, it's its own seperate being that just so has to rely on her for nourishment as it grows inside.
I don't think you can call it a seperate being when it relys 100% on someone else to live.
User Name
02-24-2006, 02:05 AM
It doesn't exactly make the being her property, now does it? And did you happen to fail sex ed or something? Child making is a group effort, Glenn.
(k, that came out really awkward. :lol:)
Louis
02-24-2006, 02:19 AM
I have sort of a conflicted view on this.
Banning abortion is not a good idea. Many women, especially young women, are impregnated and don't want to have their babies. Having abortion banned would probably ruin their life if they had to carry it.
But then again, abortion is sort of bad. Who knows if the baby you kill might be the next Einstein? Who knows?
I don't know. Weird view. But they shouldn't ban it.
But then again, abortion is sort of bad. Who knows if the baby you kill might be the next Einstein? Who knows?
The baby could also be the next Hitler. IMO, that's a horrible argument ;)
If people sleep around (or something along those lines) and get pregnant they should have to keep it - a valid punishment.
User Name
02-24-2006, 02:43 PM
Reminds me of what I said in the 'american girls' thread that cece13 made awhile ago.
"Well, if the girl didn't want the child, maybe they shouldn't have whored themselves out in the first place."
"Well, if the girl didn't want the child, maybe they shouldn't have whored themselves out in the first place."
Who says they whored themselves out?
Condoms break. Or, what about rape? Maybe doctors determined the baby would be born with some sort of disorder? Or maybe 2 people wanted to have a baby and then something came up during the pregnancy and they couldn't financially support it.
Anthony.
02-24-2006, 04:26 PM
If people sleep around (or something along those lines) and get pregnant they should have to keep it - a valid punishment.
And what happens with the child?
He has to pay for his parents' mistakes and live a miserable life?
I think the US just needs to abort South Dakota :D
User Name
02-24-2006, 06:36 PM
Who says they whored themselves out?
The quote applies if the choice is made to have sex, Todd. Come on, even you could have figured that one out.
And what happens with the child?
He has to pay for his parents' mistakes and live a miserable life?
There's always adoption, and before you mention emotional scarring I would imagine you'd rather have foster parents, albeit decent ones, rather than blood ones who don't give a rat's ass about you.
Dr. Octogonapus
02-24-2006, 08:13 PM
When abortions were illegal, women would try and do it themselves with coat hangers. Not going into detail, but I think you can figure out how they'd manage it. A lot of them got really bad infections or bled to death in the process. So which would you rather have, the right to a safe and healthy abortion that not everybody agrees with, or safe abortions illegal and people doing them in more dangerous ways? I think losing the baby is better than losing the baby AND the mother.
Glenn
02-24-2006, 09:18 PM
(k, that came out really awkward. :lol:)
yup.
@Dean: The emotional scarring comes from 9 months of unwanted misery (in some cases) and the fact of giving up your own child.
The quote applies if the choice is made to have sex, Todd. Come on, even you could have figured that one out.
Theres a big difference between 2 people who love each other having sex and whoring yourself out.
+ / –
02-25-2006, 02:18 AM
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Women have the right to abort. It's their body.
I really thing the only people who can make this decision are women themselves.
obiwanws2
02-25-2006, 02:44 AM
should be up to the person having the baby....no one else
rosanna
02-25-2006, 12:54 PM
Condoms break. Or, what about rape? Maybe doctors determined the baby would be born with some sort of disorder? Or maybe 2 people wanted to have a baby and then something came up during the pregnancy and they couldn't financially support it.
i don't think this is too harsh. people should be prepared for this kind of stuff. and in the case of rape, it is not the baby's fault, why punish them? There is still adoption as another option, even in the case of not being able to support the child. life begins 18 days after the moment of conception, according to doctors and all that. abortion does not occur before 18 days. people need to learn how to be responsible. let's say i'm having unprotected sex, i need to be aware of the risks and be prepared for anything that would happen. it's my responsibility, not some doctor's responsibility to fix my mistake that i knew i could have been making.
oh yeah. and another thing: BIRTH CONTROL. make abortion illegal and make it legal to have birth control without parental consent. well it's like that in maryland already. without the illegal abortion stuff. but it works out. kids don't run the risk of getting pregnant and having to tell their parents...but then again, if they do get pregnant, they can also have an abortion without parental consent. so i don't know which is cutting down on the teen pregnancies around here.
i just think abortion is wrong.
yup.
@Dean: The emotional scarring comes from 9 months of unwanted misery (in some cases) and the fact of giving up your own child.
What if, like I said, the pregnancy wasn't even welcomed in the slightest by the woman? Besides, I was referring to the child.
Dr. Octogonapus
03-06-2006, 08:36 PM
Well, as of today, the South Dakota abortion ban has been signed into law. My signature says it all.
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