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F-ck Casey
12-08-2005, 01:23 AM
If you like cats and dogs, don't watch the video.

http://www.peta.org.uk/feat/dogcatfurUK.asp


Sir Paul McCartney may have been the first performer to be beamed live to a space station crew, but he will never perform in China while the country's brutal treatment of animals continues.

The ex-Beatle was given a preview screening of undercover footage of dogs and cats being killed at a fur market in Guangzhou, southern China.

The video shows dogs and cats being thrown from the top deck of a converted bus onto concrete pavements. Cats are seen squirming inside a sack before being thrown into a vat of boiling water.

Smiling, laughing workers are filmed senselessly beating the animals to death.

The report, which was filmed by an investigator linked to the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) campaign group, was shown in Britain last week on the BBC's Six O'clock News.

McCartney told the BBC: "This is barbaric. Horrific. It's like something out of the dark ages. And they seem to get a kick out of it. They're just sick, sick people.

"I wouldn't even dream of going over there to play, in the same way that I wouldn't go to a country that supported apartheid."

In September this year, the 63-year-old and long-time vegan and animal rights activist, launched "High In The Clouds". This is a children's story about the destruction of a woodland, and the adventures of a squirrel who searches for the fabled land of Animalia, where the animals live in harmony but are overshadowed by an evil community; the polluted Megatropolis.

Also in September, McCartney launched his most "publicly personal" album, Chaos and creation in the backyard, his 20th studio recording since the Beatles.

To coincide with the album release he toured the United States from September to November and held 37 shows. On November 13, in a live concert linkup from Anaheim California with the International Space Station 350km above the earth, he became the first performer to play a live set for a space crew, by singing the Beatle's classic "Good Day Sunshine".

Glenn
12-08-2005, 01:34 AM
That's disgusting. I can't stand to think about creatures being treated like that. It's so sad how low this world has to go for elegence. That really pisses me off.
First I'd like to slap people who wear fur,
then I'd throw the cruel people into boiling vats, laugh, and scream, "Who's burnt now motherfucker!?" just because of what they have done.

rosanna
12-08-2005, 01:40 AM
china also treats their humans like that, remember. it is horrible, and we can't do anything about it.

i know people from china. they actually live there. they came over for a few months and were playing with the cats and dogs like everyone else does. i really think it is only a certain group of people that does this.

Glenn
12-08-2005, 01:56 AM
I know...I wasn't talking about all Chinese people nor did I mean to imply it. Please let me know if it seems offensive at all and I'll change it as soon as I can.

CloserToCrawling
12-08-2005, 01:58 AM
china also treats their humans like that, remember. it is horrible, and we can't do anything about it.

i know people from china. they actually live there. they came over for a few months and were playing with the cats and dogs like everyone else does. i really think it is only a certain group of people that does this.
I'm pretty sure they don't box each other up and skin each other in China, figuratively speaking. The government doesn't exercise its rights to that extremity, neither does it abuse its citizens to this extent.:mellow:

Considering that a huge portion of China is consisted of laborers and farmers, most of them are not educated and have never been given the opportunity to be educated. Skinning cats and dogs is just a business to them with no sentimental or moral strings attached. I'm not saying that this ignorance is an excuse, but it's a lot more gruesome to us than it is to them. I guess its the same thing for other animal skins traders(i.e. alligator skinners, minx, etc).

Derek The Infamous
12-08-2005, 02:05 AM
That's so horrible :(. I feel bad for these animals.

rosanna
12-08-2005, 02:16 AM
I know...I wasn't talking about all Chinese people nor did I mean to imply it. Please let me know if it seems offensive at all and I'll change it as soon as I can.

no i wasn't saying you were i just didn't want this to turn into an attack on chinese people...

Louis
12-08-2005, 02:47 AM
I have become extremely depressed by watching that video.

Dogs and cats, skinned for fur...that is fucking wrong.

Snail
12-08-2005, 02:50 AM
CloserToCrawling makes a very strong, and very true statement. It is simply business to them. Although, stealing cats, and dogs from owners, that is just not necessary.

Will
12-08-2005, 03:05 AM
Humanely killing a cow for its meat is one thing, but ruthlessly beating a dog or a cat is something completely different. They don't get eaten. Usually.

Holiday
12-08-2005, 04:02 AM
:cry: That is so horrible! ah!

I don't even see how anyone could be that heartless that they could do that to another living being! :angry:

I know way too much about the meat industry now. That and the health risks are the main reasons I really don't eat fast food...now, when I eat it, I get a stomach ache.

Theazninvasion68
12-08-2005, 04:22 AM
Well, based on there morals and everything, they dont really get a education to know whats not to be killed and what is to be killed. but are dogs and cats demstocated everywhere?


i mean, BEATING them is curel, but for stealing, then skinning, is down right wrong. ( but if for a life or death situation, it'd pass)

i've seen it, and it's really sad.

It's buisness to them, they dont know what better.

like cows, we kill cows for leather, and it's death isnt wrong?

Ander
12-08-2005, 04:26 AM
Why is that B there?...nevermind.

rosanna
12-08-2005, 04:36 AM
Why is that B there?...nevermind.

what...?

people do this shit in america too (and everywhere else i am just using the us as a reference point because i have been bashing us all day and i am not about to start now) we don't have to go all the way around the world to find animal cruelty.

Theazninvasion68
12-08-2005, 04:54 AM
[QUOTE=rosanna1114]what...?

The food grade,

A for good food. B for ok good. C for decent food.


get it?

saunderitos
12-08-2005, 06:33 AM
ah shit, i couldnt watch the whole vid, didnt wanna see what happens.
(XX) people are fucked up, even if they dont know,you have the dogs and cats making whatever noises they make when they are in really bad pain (Its horrible,i saw a cat get run over before, the noise was disturbing). It should be natural to see that they arnt having a great time. Dogs, im not so bothered about,kinda sick of me i know. But cats, fuckers :@ leave the cats alone.(the dogs aswell)

Snail
12-08-2005, 07:51 AM
There was a cat ripped in half in front of my lawn....coyote attack i assume, and I've also witness a cat getting run over...I remember it all. It was a loud POPPING sound, and blood sprayed from it's mouth. haha it's not horrifying but something that i'd rather not have imprinted into my mind. O well too late. It's sad that things like this has to happen, however it's business, people have to make a living.

Holiday
12-08-2005, 08:12 AM
I don't think the killing for survival is wrong, but there is NO WAY IN HELL that that or anything of that sort is all right.

It is sick, cruel, and twisted. No living thing deserves to be put through that hell! The dogs couldn't even move their heads.

Sure, the country really isn't so great for the people, that doesn't mean they can take it out on those animals!! Animals have rights too.

This sort of thing makes me sick!

Theazninvasion68
12-08-2005, 01:08 PM
I don't think the killing for survival is wrong, but there is NO WAY IN HELL that that or anything of that sort is all right.

It is sick, cruel, and twisted. No living thing deserves to be put through that hell! The dogs couldn't even move their heads.

Sure, the country really isn't so great for the people, that doesn't mean they can take it out on those animals!! Animals have rights too.

This sort of thing makes me sick!


You do realize that China doesnt really give much care to there dogs or cats if there stolen. there treated as if chickens in the USA

So, to them, its just a way to make money. And not everyone there know's what "animal cruelty" is.

Yes, it does make people sick because how can cute little kittens and cats with some dogs be treated to tourcherly?

Joe
12-08-2005, 04:38 PM
I'm not even going to watch the video. Any fucker who beats animals and treats them this way deserves to die painfully & slowly, and I'd love to sit and laugh at them whilst it happens.

rosanna
12-08-2005, 04:55 PM
I'm not even going to watch the video. Any fucker who beats animals and treats them this way deserves to die painfully & slowly, and I'd love to sit and laugh at them whilst it happens.

so you're going to do to them what they do to the animals...that is not fair. they don't know what they are doing is wrong, and someone should tell them that. in a way they are doing this for survival this is their only job and they need the money. they are ignorant and they need to be taught they are being cruel.

Linja
12-08-2005, 04:57 PM
I'm not even going to watch the video. Any fucker who beats animals and treats them this way deserves to die painfully & slowly, and I'd love to sit and laugh at them whilst it happens.

Exactly. I couldn't bring myself to watch the video, the very thought of it makes me sick with disgust.

Dave+Kay
12-08-2005, 05:16 PM
I wasn't going to watch the video. but i did. and now i regret it. the sick fucks were laughing and making idol chat as they did it. fuck.that. sick twats.

Joe
12-08-2005, 05:18 PM
so you're going to do to them what they do to the animals...that is not fair. they don't know what they are doing is wrong, and someone should tell them that. in a way they are doing this for survival this is their only job and they need the money. they are ignorant and they need to be taught they are being cruel.

Okay. If killing and torturing animals was my only way to get money, I still wouldn't do it. Ever. I'd rather die myself than for example, tie cats in bags and drown them in boiling water. How can these people not know what they're doing is wrong? they're killing animals in an inhumane way and laughing about it. If they don't know what they're doing is wrong then they are still just as sick in the head. Also, good luck trying to teach somebody who was raised that way & "needs the money" that it's wrong. They should all die just so they don't raise their own children to be like them.

Holiday
12-08-2005, 07:16 PM
You do realize that China doesnt really give much care to there dogs or cats if there stolen. there treated as if chickens in the USA

So, to them, its just a way to make money. And not everyone there know's what "animal cruelty" is.

Yes, it does make people sick because how can cute little kittens and cats with some dogs be treated to tourcherly?
I think your have doing some real sterotypical views of what these people thing and believe.

I know what China is like in respects to animal cuelty. I've seen these tigers evicerated with only thier gal bladder or penis removed. I've seen the total waste and disrespect for life human and animal alike.

I think that it is a horrible misconseption that even if animals dont' apear to think like people, they still feel and think. just becuase they don't speak our language they still are feeling creatures. No living thing should be put through that sort of tourture. Especially ones with cognitive thinking abillities. they can think thier ways through problems and learn.

All living things deserve to be respected.

Luke
12-08-2005, 07:24 PM
If I could get hold of just one of those bastards who think thats an honourable way of earning money, I'd make sure they'd suffer pain worse than they could ever imagine. Those sick fucks deserve to be treated the way they treat the animals. Maybe I'd start off by skinning the fuckers alive and make them eat their own guts, fucking sick bastards should rot in hell.

rosanna
12-08-2005, 07:38 PM
i AM NOT saying that what they are doing is right. i am saying that they are ignorant and that is all they know. i am saying that before we all get on a plane to kill every chinese person that ever did something like this, we should try to talk to them first and show them that what they are doing is wrong.

+ / –
12-08-2005, 09:41 PM
I'm not even going to watch the video. Any fucker who beats animals and treats them this way deserves to die painfully & slowly, and I'd love to sit and laugh at them whilst it happens.
Wouldn't that make you worse than them?

They torture animals to make a living.

You would torture animals (as it were) for your enjoyment.

rosanna
12-08-2005, 09:43 PM
yeah, that is what i was saying. they don't know the difference and you think they are wrong because you do.

+ / –
12-08-2005, 09:50 PM
yeah, that is what i was saying. they don't know the difference and you think they are wrong because you do.
They might know the difference. I don't know.

But the fact remains that this happens to animals ALL THE TIME.

How do you think lobsters are cooked? They're alive when you pick them out at the restaurant, and the cooks make idle chat with each other whilst they boil the creatures alive.

Think of being caught with a hook through your mouth, cramped in dirty water for hours on end, then being gutted to death.

It's the life of the fish.

We just have a bias toward cats and dogs because we consider them to be pets, domestic animals. We consider them friends. Some people don't have the priviledge to do so. To them, it's just meat. I'm sure you've heard of Koreans eating dogs.

Joe
12-08-2005, 09:51 PM
Wouldn't that make you worse than them?

They torture animals to make a living.

You would torture animals (as it were) for your enjoyment.

Actually I never said I would torture or murder them. I said I'd laugh whilst it happens.

+ / –
12-08-2005, 09:54 PM
Actually I never said I would torture or murder them. I said I'd laugh whilst it happens.
Ah sorry, I assumed otherwise.

Now I see the irony.

Oh, and I don't accept this kind of lifestyle either. I don't know, I'm kind of off the map at the moment.:mellow:

CloserToCrawling
12-08-2005, 11:18 PM
Humanely killing a cow for its meat is one thing, but ruthlessly beating a dog or a cat is something completely different. They don't get eaten. Usually.

One of the most famous dishes in Chinese cuisine is actually dog. Cats are not so popular among the culinary part, but eating dog meat is actually quite common. As bizarre as that sounded, the Chinese also eat snake and pretty much every part of the pig(from coagulated blood to pig feet).

+ / –
12-09-2005, 12:02 AM
One of the most famous dishes in Chinese cuisine is actually dog. Cats are not so popular among the culinary part, but eating dog meat is actually quite common. As bizarre as that sounded, the Chinese also eat snake and pretty much every part of the pig(from coagulated blood to pig feet).
It's true too.

The cat isn't very popular in China, even from early times, the cat was excluded out of the zodiac.

And no, the tiger doesn't count.

F-ck Casey
12-09-2005, 12:18 AM
I've always wondered what dog tastes like.

Seriously.

Matt
12-09-2005, 12:25 AM
I don't want to watch the video. It's just wrong to treat an innocent animal like that. They never boiled humans like fucking potatoes, did they?

Will
12-09-2005, 12:30 AM
One of the most famous dishes in Chinese cuisine is actually dog. Cats are not so popular among the culinary part, but eating dog meat is actually quite common. As bizarre as that sounded, the Chinese also eat snake and pretty much every part of the pig(from coagulated blood to pig feet).
That's why I said usually. But I suppose that they probably humanely kill the animals that get eaten. I wouldn't know though as I've never been over there.

rosanna
12-09-2005, 04:29 AM
I don't want to watch the video. It's just wrong to treat an innocent animal like that. They never boiled humans like fucking potatoes, did they?

actually, they did. in the dark ages. and looking at the video, i would say this is pretty close to the dark ages. they aren't in hong kong here, they are in areas of poverty. i'll bet you that the prime minister or whatever you call him isn't even paying attention to these areas. like a chinese ghetto. this is these people's only job, probably the only one around, and i am almost positive they don't even get paid enough for it. i really think they don't know what they are doing, or why they are doing it, and if they did, they might even protest that they aren't making enough money. it is a classic case of the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer.

i feel incredibly sorry for these cats and dogs, but think about it: they are already dead. ALL OF THE ANIMALS IN THAT VIDEO ARE ALREADY DEAD. so there is nothing you can do about that. what we need to do is show these laborers what they are doing and why it is wrong, and then go after the companies that are making them do that. not the people, at least until they know what they are doing is wrong. call me whatever you want, but i also feel sorry for these people because it is the only job they have. you don't konw if they feel bad about what they are doing or not, you didn't ask them. and just because they are laughing means nothing. i laugh at work and i abhor my job.

i blame the companies that are doing this the most. again, i am not saying that the laborers are right, but they don't know any better.

Arhaz
12-10-2005, 05:52 AM
sick A-holes....
damn...

Dean
12-10-2005, 08:30 PM
It's sad, it shouldn't happen, but some of the people who do it probably don't have a choice.

F-ck Casey
12-10-2005, 08:32 PM
actually, they did. in the dark ages. and looking at the video, i would say this is pretty close to the dark ages. they aren't in hong kong here, they are in areas of poverty. i'll bet you that the prime minister or whatever you call him isn't even paying attention to these areas. like a chinese ghetto. this is these people's only job, probably the only one around, and i am almost positive they don't even get paid enough for it. i really think they don't know what they are doing, or why they are doing it, and if they did, they might even protest that they aren't making enough money. it is a classic case of the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer.

i feel incredibly sorry for these cats and dogs, but think about it: they are already dead. ALL OF THE ANIMALS IN THAT VIDEO ARE ALREADY DEAD. so there is nothing you can do about that. what we need to do is show these laborers what they are doing and why it is wrong, and then go after the companies that are making them do that. not the people, at least until they know what they are doing is wrong. call me whatever you want, but i also feel sorry for these people because it is the only job they have. you don't konw if they feel bad about what they are doing or not, you didn't ask them. and just because they are laughing means nothing. i laugh at work and i abhor my job.

i blame the companies that are doing this the most. again, i am not saying that the laborers are right, but they don't know any better.

The cats and dogs in the cages that are dropped off a truck to the ground aren't dead already. They're still very much alive.

Il inno di morte
12-15-2005, 12:14 AM
oh, and it gets worst

http://www.goveg.com/factoryFarming.asp

honestly, watch it all.
The campaign itself tells you to go veg, which might be a bit drastic, but the violence on animals is just terrible, those bastards shouldn't be allowed to breathe.

linkin park 101
12-15-2005, 03:48 AM
I'm not going to even watch the video because I felt sick after reading about it. Some people disgust me