Some people disgust me....part 2

[Todd]

GREENVILLE, S.C. (AP) -- Fewer than 100 people gathered in the Upstate this weekend to learn about a group that wants to create a government in South Carolina based on the Bible.

"Christian Exodus" organizers say they want to have 70,000 people relocated to the state by 2016. With those numbers, like-minded people could take over the government.

Movement founder Cory Burnell said at Saturday's meeting that such a new state government could require people to own property before they could vote and determine whether the 14th, 16th and 17th amendments to the U.S. Constitution were "ratified properly, and it not, put them up for proper ratification."

Those amendments guarantee voting and civil rights for freed slaves, establish the income tax system and call for popular election of the U.S. Senate.

Burnell said he chose South Carolina for the first phase of his movement because there already were many people here likely to agree with his organization's goals.

So far, he said, 14 adults and 20 children have relocated to Christian Exodus' two target counties, which he would not identify.

"In 2008, we'd like to complete our first phase and what we'd consider a success there is a majority on the county councils and county sheriff," Burnell said. "City council would be a bonus. School boards would be a bonus. If we felt we had enough support, we'd move on to another phase where we'd select another county."

Burnell, who lives with his wife and two children in California where he works as a financial advisor, has visited the states three times and spent a total of about two weeks here.

Ninety-four people registered for the convention, but only about 50 adults sat in on various meetings at any one time at the suburban hotel, organizers said.

Several young families were present, including Troy and Charlotte Perdue from Halifax, Va., who brought their seven children to learn more about the organization.

"I learned a lot," Charlotte Perdue said of the speakers. "The basic thing that sticks in my mind is that I've been gypped by the school system."

Cliffsnotes:
A bunch of bible thumpers want to take over South Carolina's government and create a new government there based on the bible.

Discuss.

[Intergalactic Christ]

As long as they aren't trying to force the bible onto people... that's all I can say, seen as I don't know much about what they're planning to do, I don't get the slaves bit.

[Todd]

Originally posted by Intergalactic Christ@Oct 27 2005, 10:07 AM
As long as they aren't trying to force the bible onto people... that's all I can say, seen as I don't know much about what they're planning to do, I don't get the slaves bit.
Sounds like their goal is to make a christain government, i.e., if you're Muslim/Jewish/Bhuddist/Atheist/whatever, you're commiting a crime and can be arrested. And they probably want to make slavery legal too.

Granted, this will never happen, but its sickeing that some people actually want to do this crap.

[Intergalactic Christ]

Originally posted by Todd+Oct 27 2005, 03:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Todd @ Oct 27 2005, 03:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Intergalactic Christ@Oct 27 2005, 10:07 AM
As long as they aren&#39;t trying to force the bible onto people... that&#39;s all I can say, seen as I don&#39;t know much about what they&#39;re planning to do, I don&#39;t get the slaves bit.
Sounds like their goal is to make a christain government, i.e., if you&#39;re Muslim/Jewish/Bhuddist/Atheist/whatever, you&#39;re commiting a crime and can be arrested. And they probably want to make slavery legal too.

Granted, this will never happen, but its sickeing that some people actually want to do this crap. [/b][/quote]
Oh crap... WHAT?&#33; I hate religious extremists. Nothing wrong with being christian, but outlawing other religions/beliefs... can&#39;t state what I&#39;m thinking because I don&#39;t fancy getting banned.

And slavery? Two sides to this one.... you can&#39;t make anyone work and not get paid, it isn&#39;t right, but on the other hand, wouldn&#39;t they have a roof over their heads and food to eat? However, they wouldn&#39;t be able to buy themselves a house and get out of there if they weren&#39;t being paid, so no.

I just got put into a really bad mood :)

[Amanda]

@ Intergalactic Christ: People without homes and food don&#39;t need to resort to becoming a slave to get a place to live and food to eat. That&#39;s why we have soup kitchens and shelters.

[Intergalactic Christ]

Originally posted by Lady Rocafella@Oct 27 2005, 03:43 PM
@ Intergalactic Christ: People without homes and food don&#39;t need to resort to becoming a slave to get a place to live and food to eat. That&#39;s why we have soup kitchens and shelters.
But they might want a job, or safety.

[Todd]

Originally posted by Intergalactic Christ+Oct 27 2005, 10:46 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Intergalactic Christ @ Oct 27 2005, 10:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Lady Rocafella@Oct 27 2005, 03:43 PM
@ Intergalactic Christ: People without homes and food don&#39;t need to resort to becoming a slave to get a place to live and food to eat. That&#39;s why we have soup kitchens and shelters.
But they might want a job, or safety. [/b][/quote]
Being a slave is not a job. A job pays. Safety? Yeah right. In the 1800s, slaves were treated like animals. They were abused, treated like absolute crap by their owners and sometimes killed. Being a slave is not a job or is it safe. I think they would much rather be in shelters.

[Amanda]

Originally posted by Intergalactic Christ+Oct 27 2005, 03:46 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Intergalactic Christ @ Oct 27 2005, 03:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Lady Rocafella@Oct 27 2005, 03:43 PM
@ Intergalactic Christ: People without homes and food don&#39;t need to resort to becoming a slave to get a place to live and food to eat. That&#39;s why we have soup kitchens and shelters.
But they might want a job, or safety. [/b][/quote]
That&#39;s true but they could still try to get a job while living in a shelter. It would be hard but I&#39;m sure it could be done. About the safety thing, I doubt they would be much safer if they were still going to be beaten and killed like before.

[Intergalactic Christ]

Originally posted by Lady Rocafella+Oct 27 2005, 03:51 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Lady Rocafella @ Oct 27 2005, 03:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -Intergalactic Christ@Oct 27 2005, 03:46 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Lady Rocafella@Oct 27 2005, 03:43 PM
@ Intergalactic Christ: People without homes and food don&#39;t need to resort to becoming a slave to get a place to live and food to eat. That&#39;s why we have soup kitchens and shelters.
But they might want a job, or safety.
That&#39;s true but they could still try to get a job while living in a shelter. It would be hard but I&#39;m sure it could be done. About the safety thing, I doubt they would be much safer if they were still going to be beaten and killed like before. [/b][/quote]
I was thinking more along the lines of: There could be anybody in the shelters, including people pushed to commiting crimes to aid themselves to live... we can imagine what that might result in. But when you&#39;re in a house, nobody is very likely to wander in off the streets... I&#39;m trying not to use specifics here because they really could do anything.

[Todd]

Originally posted by Intergalactic Christ@Oct 27 2005, 10:55 AM

I was thinking more along the lines of: There could be anybody in the shelters, including people pushed to commiting crimes to aid themselves to live... we can imagine what that might result in. But when you&#39;re in a house, nobody is very likely to wander in off the streets... I&#39;m trying not to use specifics here because they really could do anything.
Do you not know how slaves were treated back when slavery was legal? Why the hell would anyone ever want to be a slave? I&#39;d rather take my chances in a shelter

[Amanda]

Originally posted by Todd+Oct 27 2005, 04:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Todd @ Oct 27 2005, 04:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Intergalactic Christ@Oct 27 2005, 10:55 AM

I was thinking more along the lines of: There could be anybody in the shelters, including people pushed to commiting crimes to aid themselves to live... we can imagine what that might result in. But when you&#39;re in a house, nobody is very likely to wander in off the streets... I&#39;m trying not to use specifics here because they really could do anything.
Do you not know how slaves were treated back when slavery was legal? Why the hell would anyone ever want to be a slave? I&#39;d rather take my chances in a shelter [/b][/quote]
I would rather take my chances in a shelter as well. I don&#39;t even like doing what my own parents tell me so I doubt I would like listening to a complete stranger. :P

[Canadian Joe]

This "Christian Exodus" thing has been going on for some time now...a year or so if I remember correctly. Anyways, their ultimate ambition to section off at least a part of the state and run it with total disregard for all rules/laws except their own laws and beliefs (which I believe fall somewhere under the "radical Christian" category) :rolleyes:


Never gonna happen :lol:

(Or at least I hope not)

[Amanda]

Originally posted by SmashPilot@Oct 27 2005, 06:52 PM
This "Christian Exodus" thing has been going on for some time now...a year or so if I remember correctly. Anyways, their ultimate ambition to section off at least a part of the state and run it with total disregard for all rules/laws except their own laws and beliefs (which I believe fall somewhere under the "radical Christian" category) :rolleyes:


Never gonna happen :lol:

(Or at least I hope not)
I would hope it would NEVER happen. I have nothing against Christians or anything but that just seems crazy to me. I can only imagine what would go on there. :unsure:

[MegaRon]

I don&#39;t mind people being religious and all, but those people missed the boat by about two or three hundred years when it comes to having a religiously biased government- although the current administration seems to be doing a relatively good job reinstating that policy. <_<

[Glenn]

Hehe. Secession Numero Deux.

[Intergalactic Christ]

Originally posted by Todd+Oct 27 2005, 04:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Todd @ Oct 27 2005, 04:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Intergalactic Christ@Oct 27 2005, 10:55 AM

I was thinking more along the lines of: There could be anybody in the shelters, including people pushed to commiting crimes to aid themselves to live... we can imagine what that might result in. But when you&#39;re in a house, nobody is very likely to wander in off the streets... I&#39;m trying not to use specifics here because they really could do anything.
Do you not know how slaves were treated back when slavery was legal? Why the hell would anyone ever want to be a slave? I&#39;d rather take my chances in a shelter [/b][/quote]
Eek, todd, somehow I missed all your posts.

This time is nothing like it was in the 1800&#39;s. It&#39;s likely to be more humane, and they&#39;ll have rights too.

I&#39;d rather work than sit in a shelter, it would give me more of a feeling of being worthy of something. But that&#39;s just me I guess.

[Todd]

Originally posted by Intergalactic Christ@Oct 28 2005, 02:08 AM
This time is nothing like it was in the 1800&#39;s. It&#39;s likely to be more humane, and they&#39;ll have rights too.

I&#39;d rather work than sit in a shelter, it would give me more of a feeling of being worthy of something. But that&#39;s just me I guess.
I wish you were right, but, sadly, you aren&#39;t. People are not more humane. Trust me, I live in the south (Well, Missouri was technically a neutral/border state, but the culture and thinking is very much like the deep south) and can tell you, hate is still rampant. The only thing stopping a lot of people down here from killing African Americans is the law. And if a new government came into power and said it was OK to enslave and do whatever you wanted with African Americans, then people down here would jump at that opportunity. It would not be any different than it was in the 1800s.

[Intergalactic Christ]

Originally posted by Todd@Oct 28 2005, 04:59 PM

I wish you were right, but, sadly, you aren&#39;t. People are not more humane. Trust me, I live in the south (Well, Missouri was technically a neutral/border state, but the culture and thinking is very much like the deep south) and can tell you, hate is still rampant. The only thing stopping a lot of people down here from killing African Americans is the law. And if a new government came into power and said it was OK to enslave and do whatever you wanted with African Americans, then people down here would jump at that opportunity. It would not be any different than it was in the 1800s.
Heh, I have no experience of America, having never been before, nor do I really wish to go. I live in a mostly white community also.

I don&#39;t mean enslave and do anything you want to them. Of course, it would mean working, but they wouldn&#39;t be allowed to hit the slaves or starve them, nothing like that. That is what I meant byt things have changed, this would not be tolerated anymore.

[Todd]

Originally posted by Intergalactic Christ@Oct 28 2005, 12:09 PM
I don&#39;t mean enslave and do anything you want to them. Of course, it would mean working, but they wouldn&#39;t be allowed to hit the slaves or starve them, nothing like that. That is what I meant byt things have changed, this would not be tolerated anymore.
Yes, it would be tolerated, which is sad. The south is full of white supremacy and hate groups.

[Intergalactic Christ]

Originally posted by Todd+Oct 28 2005, 05:15 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Todd @ Oct 28 2005, 05:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Intergalactic Christ@Oct 28 2005, 12:09 PM
I don&#39;t mean enslave and do anything you want to them. Of course, it would mean working, but they wouldn&#39;t be allowed to hit the slaves or starve them, nothing like that. That is what I meant byt things have changed, this would not be tolerated anymore.
Yes, it would be tolerated, which is sad. The south is full of white supremacy and hate groups. [/b][/quote]
Hmm, well, like I said, I have no experience of America, I&#39;m speaking about Britain...

[F-ck Casey]

The white man still might want to kill the black man, but, atleast in Tennessee, they out-number the white man in many cases.

Especially in Memphis.

[Glenn]

Originally posted by Intergalactic Christ@Oct 28 2005, 12:09 PM
Heh, I have no experience of America, having never been before, nor do I really wish to go.
Yup. Don&#39;t worry. You&#39;re not missing much.

[Intergalactic Christ]

Originally posted by Glenn+Oct 30 2005, 04:36 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Glenn @ Oct 30 2005, 04:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Intergalactic Christ@Oct 28 2005, 12:09 PM
Heh, I have no experience of America, having never been before, nor do I really wish to go.
Yup. Don&#39;t worry. You&#39;re not missing much. [/b][/quote]
Thanks :)

[a life in ashes]

This kind of thing annoys me no end. It&#39;s a sick mis-representation of christianity. Most of that stuff is un-biblical and wrong according to the beliefs you are supposedly following, let alone society.

There&#39;s nothing wrong with being passionate about your faith, so long as you don&#39;t try and force it on others like these guys want to. If you want people to follow your religion, lead by a decent example rather than force.

if you want to force stuff on people then fuck off. that&#39;s not being christian. that&#39;s being an arse.

[Tom]

It&#39;s just sick. fair do&#39;s being christian etc. But then trying to erase all of the other religions is just wrong.

[insanechica007]

Wasn&#39;t that the point of even colonizing America? To NOT have to follow a certain religion?

..Uggh, one of the many reasons I think religion can sometimes be bullshit..

[TheVoodoo]

All I have to say on this topic is that I hope you all who read this dont think that this reflects the ideas of christians as a whole. The guy who is leading this isnt even a minister. Hes a financial advisor. If he wants to enslave people hes crazy too. But like you all said it is sad to think that people would want a society which doesnt tolerate other religions. If you go to many countries in asia that is exactly what you get. i just say this to show that such a society is possible and does exist today. Do I think its wrong? Yes I do. This guy disgusts me.