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esaul17
10-26-2005, 03:47 AM
Hard topic forme. It seems flat out wrong from a moral and a genetic standpoint, but if two people love each other, I don't think we have a right to oppose it. I would have to say it is okay as long as it isn't an older brother taking advantage of his younger sister or vice versa. This is kind og like homosexuality for me, somehting that I would never do but is okay. For some reason I find it harder to come to terms with this one though.
It's disgusting. I normally don't care what 2 people do in their bedroom, but if it involves kids, corpses, animals, or their own family members, then it's just disgusting.
briansalo
10-26-2005, 05:23 AM
I agree that if two people love eachother, then we shouldn't stop them from it... Although, on the scientific side of things, it would affect the offspring. I'm for pretty much anything, but if it causes harm to an unwilling subject, like in such a case, then children shouldn't be an option, unless someone else agreed on replacing half of the genetics.
That's my opinion.
Originally posted by Todd@Oct 26 2005, 04:02 AM
It's disgusting. I normally don't care what 2 people do in their bedroom, but if it involves kids, corpses, animals, or their own family members, then it's just disgusting.
What Todd said.
Intergalactic Christ
10-26-2005, 06:56 AM
No. For one thing, it can cause major problems within a family. Another thing, any offspring produced would, as said earlier, more than likely have genetic faults. So basically, whilst it isn't necessarily selfish, it can cause a lot of problems for everybody.
Chris(tmas)
10-26-2005, 07:42 AM
If they love each other, than its okay. But if they have sex, they should do it safe and if they want a child they should adopt it.
NickelNine
10-26-2005, 07:50 AM
Originally posted by Todd+Oct 25 2005, 11:02 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Todd @ Oct 25 2005, 11:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>It's disgusting. I normally don't care what 2 people do in their bedroom, but if it involves kids, corpses, animals, or their own family members, then it's just disgusting.[/b]
<!--QuoteBegin--Chris@Oct 26 2005, 02:42 AM
If they love each other, than its okay. But if they have sex, they should do it safe and if they want a child they should adopt it.[/quote]
I think what they said.
Jakks
10-26-2005, 09:20 AM
I believe it to be wrong, and disgusting but we cant stop people so I think it will always be a weird topic of conversation
sixdotcom
10-26-2005, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by Todd@Oct 26 2005, 04:02 AM
corpses
corpse would be Necrophilia?
*thx shep.
Anthony
10-26-2005, 01:02 PM
No. Necrophilia thou with the flying hormones and non-existant girlfriend
Incest...hmmm.. morally wrong, yes - but in the end its love no matter how disgusting it may be. sure it is perhaps 'unnatural' but then again, homosexuality is considered unnatural.
so yes though the actual object of love is different it can be related to other 'more acceptable' things
basically, let them do what they want. if they're in love then good for them, but personally i have a pretty negative view on this
saunderitos
10-26-2005, 01:21 PM
Why should we care?
If they love each other, i'm fine with it.
people taking advantage is wrong,in every aspect.
It's not our buisness to interfere.
I think it's completely repulsive. If two siblings are in love, then you know that's not normal. They aren't really in love - they're messed up. But on the other hand, I know it's wrong to judge and people have a free will. It would shock me to see a sister and brother making out.
saunderitos
10-26-2005, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by Boo@Oct 26 2005, 03:08 PM
I think it's completely repulsive. If two siblings are in love, then you know that's not normal. They aren't really in love - they're messed up. But on the other hand, I know it's wrong to judge and people have a free will. It would shock me to see a sister and brother making out.
Not normal doesn't mean that it is bad.
I'm not normal and I take great pride in that,that I won't just follow trends and I will be myself.
Who wouldn't it shock?
What makes you say it is repulsive though?
Is it not better for you to understand your love for someone rather than live in denial?
Originally posted by Shepherd@Oct 26 2005, 08:02 AM
No. Necrophilia thou with the flying hormones and non-existant girlfriend
Incest...hmmm.. morally wrong, yes - but in the end its love no matter how disgusting it may be. sure it is perhaps 'unnatural' but then again, homosexuality is considered unnatural.
so yes though the actual object of love is different it can be related to other 'more acceptable' things
basically, let them do what they want. if they're in love then good for them, but personally i have a pretty negative view on this
It's OK for family members to love each other. I'm sure you love your parents and siblings. So do I and most other people I know. But it's just wrong to be in love with them.
Darcy
10-26-2005, 05:44 PM
Originally posted by Todd@Oct 26 2005, 12:02 AM
It's disgusting. I normally don't care what 2 people do in their bedroom, but if it involves kids, corpses, animals, or their own family members, then it's just disgusting.
Eh, I'll have to agree with Todd on this subject.
Friskey™
10-26-2005, 06:07 PM
Originally posted by Boo@Oct 26 2005, 11:08 AM
I think it's completely repulsive. If two siblings are in love, then you know that's not normal. They aren't really in love - they're messed up. But on the other hand, I know it's wrong to judge and people have a free will. It would shock me to see a sister and brother making out.
You just reminded me of the movie "Eurotrip" :lol:
Sorry, had to throw some humor there.
If people want to do it fine, but I would recommend protection.
Holiday
10-26-2005, 07:59 PM
I have a freind. He and his cousin spent a lot of time together when they were younger. They even showered together. They just just about everything together and their parents had them spend all that time together. When they were both 12, in the shower together, like they had done for years, they lost eachother's virginities. They didn't know it was bad. Once they figured out, they had to stop seeing eachother, and it is really uncomfortable at family reunions becuase they both were in love with eachother and feel as if it is wrong to be so separate, but they know they have to.
I feel sorry for my friend. Now he has a wife and twins, but she was his first love and that isn't going to change.
I think that incest between siblings is much different than between cousins. Siblings and parents+kids shouldn't happen, but the cousin thing has been around forever. There are even some states that marying your cousin is fine.
Aaron
10-26-2005, 11:17 PM
Here's how i see it:
Two people at the beginning of life had sex. They had kids. Their kids had sex. They're kids kids had sex. Blah blah blah...
Keep going down to today, 6 billion plus people later. I think in a way, we are all still in the same family, that family just divided into millions of other families.
Why are there black people, asian, hairy? Simple, as people moved they had to adopt to their surroundings.
If you look at it my way, we're all victims of incest.
But seeing my theory is deffinitly wrong, I still think incest is just simply fucked up.
Back in the day, incest was perfectly cool.
Holiday
10-26-2005, 11:25 PM
Yup, all of the Pharos and royal families did it so things would...stay in the family.
F-ck Casey
10-27-2005, 12:00 AM
Let them do it, I say. It doesn't affect me in any way, and besides, who am I to judge them?
Originally posted by Holiday@Oct 26 2005, 05:25 PM
Yup, all of the Pharos and royal families did it so things would...stay in the family.
Which is why hemophilia is so rampant in the British royal family.
It's also why you find blue people in the backwoods country of Appalachia.
Originally posted by Aaron@Oct 26 2005, 06:17 PM
Here's how i see it:
Two people at the beginning of life had sex. They had kids. Their kids had sex. They're kids kids had sex. Blah blah blah...
Keep going down to today, 6 billion plus people later. I think in a way, we are all still in the same family, that family just divided into millions of other families.
Why are there black people, asian, hairy? Simple, as people moved they had to adopt to their surroundings.
If you look at it my way, we're all victims of incest.
But seeing my theory is deffinitly wrong, I still think incest is just simply fucked up.
Thats if you believe in the creation theory. Since I believe in evolution, incest is not the reason we are here
Holiday
10-27-2005, 12:09 AM
Originally posted by Kate+Oct 26 2005, 05:03 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Kate @ Oct 26 2005, 05:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Holiday@Oct 26 2005, 05:25 PM
Yup, all of the Pharos and royal families did it so things would...stay in the family.
Which is why hemophilia is so rampant in the British royal family.
It's also why you find blue people in the backwoods country of Appalachia. [/b][/quote]
yup, lol
Originally posted by Aaron@Oct 26 2005, 07:17 PM
Why are there black people, asian, hairy? Simple, as people moved they had to adopt to their surroundings.
That doesn't make any sense. You made it sound like people changed their own skin color... and decided to grow more hair.
Originally posted by Aaron@Oct 26 2005, 05:17 PM
Here's how i see it:
Two people at the beginning of life had sex. They had kids. Their kids had sex. They're kids kids had sex. Blah blah blah...
Keep going down to today, 6 billion plus people later. I think in a way, we are all still in the same family, that family just divided into millions of other families.
Why are there black people, asian, hairy? Simple, as people moved they had to adopt to their surroundings.
If you look at it my way, we're all victims of incest.
But seeing my theory is deffinitly wrong, I still think incest is just simply fucked up.
That's accepting the theory of creation as true, to which I strongly object. Sure, there's a possibility that we're all distantlyx10^23 related to each other, but after a few generations removed, the difference in genetic makeup hardly matters.
Problems arise when too many people sharing the same genetic flaw keep mating, which is the reason I don't think repeated incest is a fantastic idea. In order to keep the human race strong, incest should be discouraged.
That's my viewpoint.
Justin
10-27-2005, 01:10 AM
Originally posted by Chris@Oct 26 2005, 12:42 AM
If they love each other, than its okay. But if they have sex, they should do it safe and if they want a child they should adopt it.
I totally agree with Chris.
esaul17
10-27-2005, 02:56 AM
Originally posted by Justin+Oct 27 2005, 01:10 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Justin @ Oct 27 2005, 01:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Chris@Oct 26 2005, 12:42 AM
If they love each other, than its okay. But if they have sex, they should do it safe and if they want a child they should adopt it.
I totally agree with Chris. [/b][/quote]
Agreed.
Link04
10-27-2005, 02:59 AM
If it's consensual, let 'em go nuts. Has no bearing on me.
Glenn
10-27-2005, 03:06 AM
What Chris said.
Debus
10-27-2005, 03:10 PM
I don't really support it as i think it is quite sick but if they want to do that kind of stuff then whatever. It doesn't affect me in any way, it'll be them who suffers in end and their families.
Amanda
10-27-2005, 03:35 PM
I think incest is wrong and I agree with everyone who said that it would just cause more problems for them and their families.
Intergalactic Christ
10-27-2005, 04:23 PM
Originally posted by Lady Rocafella@Oct 27 2005, 03:35 PM
I think incest is wrong and I agree with everyone who said that it would just cause more problems for them and their families.
I agree, families come first. Anything (obviously there will be exceptions, i know) that puts a family at risk should not be allowed to happen. Hard question for some, but would you put a girlfriend before a nice, loving family, who will be there for you no matter what?
Messy Marj
10-28-2005, 10:26 AM
Alot of people think me and my sister do stuff to each other that normal sisters wouldn't do.
So okay, we kissed a few times. Out of bordom and fun and whatnot.
But I will never have sex with her, just because it feels wrong.
But then again, it's sometimes fun to let people think that we have more feelings towards each other then normal sisters.
But anyway, I agree with Chris on this.
Amanda
10-28-2005, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by Marj@Oct 28 2005, 10:26 AM
Alot of people think me and my sister do stuff to each other that normal sisters wouldn't do.
So okay, we kissed a few times. Out of bordom and fun and whatnot.
But I will never have sex with her, just because it feels wrong.
But then again, it's sometimes fun to let people think that we have more feelings towards each other then normal sisters.
But anyway, I agree with Chris on this.
Well, it's not that wrong but it depends on what type of kissing, I think. Those little parent to child kisses are fine to me but if you guys made out, that's weird. :P
Messy Marj
10-28-2005, 11:32 AM
:chemist: uhm.
Amanda
10-28-2005, 11:37 AM
Originally posted by Marj@Oct 28 2005, 11:32 AM
:chemist: uhm.
It's alright. I know someone who thinks incest is hot. :P
saunderitos
10-28-2005, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by Marj@Oct 28 2005, 10:26 AM
Alot of people think me and my sister do stuff to each other that normal sisters wouldn't do.
So okay, we kissed a few times. Out of bordom and fun and whatnot.
But I will never have sex with her, just because it feels wrong.
But then again, it's sometimes fun to let people think that we have more feelings towards each other then normal sisters.
But anyway, I agree with Chris on this.
i dont understand that atall, are you step sisters?
and what kind of kissing?
i'm not bothered,if she is your blood sister (if you are actually a girl,i havnt checked). Incest doesn't bother me at all,it's not really our buisness anyway.
Messy Marj
10-28-2005, 11:44 AM
Oh. We're blood sisters. If we're bored or something, we tend to do stupid things..like making out. But I haven't done that in a long time.
saunderitos
10-28-2005, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by Marj@Oct 28 2005, 11:44 AM
Oh. We're blood sisters. If we're bored or something, we tend to do stupid things..like making out. But I haven't done that in a long time.
you enjoy it?
Messy Marj
10-28-2005, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by saunderitos+Oct 28 2005, 12:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (saunderitos @ Oct 28 2005, 12:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Marj@Oct 28 2005, 11:44 AM
Oh. We're blood sisters. If we're bored or something, we tend to do stupid things..like making out. But I haven't done that in a long time.
you enjoy it? [/b][/quote]
Uhm yeah...I mean, it's nice and unboring :lol:
saunderitos
10-28-2005, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by Marj+Oct 28 2005, 12:40 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Marj @ Oct 28 2005, 12:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -saunderitos@Oct 28 2005, 12:35 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Marj@Oct 28 2005, 11:44 AM
Oh. We're blood sisters. If we're bored or something, we tend to do stupid things..like making out. But I haven't done that in a long time.
you enjoy it?
Uhm yeah...I mean, it's nice and unboring :lol: [/b][/quote]
you are so cool :lol:
Messy Marj
10-28-2005, 01:38 PM
Oh heh thanks. :lol:
saunderitos
10-28-2005, 01:48 PM
Originally posted by Marj@Oct 28 2005, 01:38 PM
Oh heh thanks. :lol:
you dont mind what other people think :D
so cool :D
Mechanical Christ
10-28-2005, 01:49 PM
Originally posted by Intergalactic Christ@Oct 26 2005, 06:56 AM
No. For one thing, it can cause major problems within a family. Another thing, any offspring produced would, as said earlier, more than likely have genetic faults. So basically, whilst it isn't necessarily selfish, it can cause a lot of problems for everybody.
Yes. Isn't it said that incest will make the offspring <s>mentally ********</s>? (is that banned? :wth: )
[By the way, off topic; Hello Rammstein fan. *grin*]
Evan™
10-28-2005, 01:54 PM
Originally posted by Mechanical Christ+Oct 28 2005, 01:49 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mechanical Christ @ Oct 28 2005, 01:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Intergalactic Christ@Oct 26 2005, 06:56 AM
No. For one thing, it can cause major problems within a family. Another thing, any offspring produced would, as said earlier, more than likely have genetic faults. So basically, whilst it isn't necessarily selfish, it can cause a lot of problems for everybody.
Yes. Isn't it said that incest will make the offspring <s>mentally ********</s>? (is that banned? :wth: )
[/quote]
yeah the word (r-e-t-a-r-d) is banned check the rules
Intergalactic Christ
10-28-2005, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by Mechanical Christ+Oct 28 2005, 01:49 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mechanical Christ @ Oct 28 2005, 01:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Intergalactic Christ@Oct 26 2005, 06:56 AM
No. For one thing, it can cause major problems within a family. Another thing, any offspring produced would, as said earlier, more than likely have genetic faults. So basically, whilst it isn't necessarily selfish, it can cause a lot of problems for everybody.
Yes. Isn't it said that incest will make the offspring <s>mentally ********</s>? (is that banned? :wth: )
[/quote]
Uh huh, but that isn't the end of the problems, no way. Like I said, family problems occur too.
Hello there ^_^
Originally posted by Paul+Oct 26 2005, 05:33 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Paul @ Oct 26 2005, 05:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Todd@Oct 26 2005, 04:02 AM
It's disgusting. I normally don't care what 2 people do in their bedroom, but if it involves kids, corpses, animals, or their own family members, then it's just disgusting.
What Todd said. [/b][/quote]
that goes for me too
cece13
10-29-2005, 11:05 PM
NOT HEALTHY. I'm pretty sure that phisically its not very healthy for and offsprin produced... and I'm not sure, but it doesn't seem like incest would be very psychologially healthy either.
The Outsider
10-30-2005, 03:40 AM
as long as u keep incest in the family its fine with me
Glenn
10-30-2005, 03:44 AM
Originally posted by Evan+Oct 28 2005, 08:54 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Evan @ Oct 28 2005, 08:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -Mechanical Christ@Oct 28 2005, 01:49 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Intergalactic Christ@Oct 26 2005, 06:56 AM
No. For one thing, it can cause major problems within a family. Another thing, any offspring produced would, as said earlier, more than likely have genetic faults. So basically, whilst it isn't necessarily selfish, it can cause a lot of problems for everybody.
Yes. Isn't it said that incest will make the offspring <s>mentally ********</s>? (is that banned? :wth: )
yeah the word (r-e-t-a-r-d) is banned check the rules [/quote]
not exactly. The word isn't the actual problem. The problem lies in the idiots who use the term derogatorally. If you are genuinely using the term to describe someone having a mental problem...then it's perfectly fine. However, If, for example, the word is used like, "This assignment is so ________" Then, that person will get warned.
Originally posted by Glenn+Oct 29 2005, 11:44 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Glenn @ Oct 29 2005, 11:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -Evan@Oct 28 2005, 08:54 AM
Originally posted by -Mechanical Christ@Oct 28 2005, 01:49 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Intergalactic Christ@Oct 26 2005, 06:56 AM
No. For one thing, it can cause major problems within a family. Another thing, any offspring produced would, as said earlier, more than likely have genetic faults. So basically, whilst it isn't necessarily selfish, it can cause a lot of problems for everybody.
Yes. Isn't it said that incest will make the offspring <s>mentally ********</s>? (is that banned? :wth: )
yeah the word (r-e-t-a-r-d) is banned check the rules
not exactly. The word isn't the actual problem. The problem lies in the idiots who use the term derogatorally. If you are genuinely using the term to describe someone having a mental problem...then it's perfectly fine. However, If, for example, the word is used like, "This assignment is so ________" Then, that person will get warned. [/quote]
Ditto. Same with "gay." If you're talking about something like gay marraige or something where the word is appropriate, that's fine. But saying "Homework is gay" is against the rules.
Whimsicality
10-30-2005, 12:53 PM
We've pretty much focused on hetrosexual incest, but what's everyone's opinion of homosexual incest?
As for me, personally, the idea of incest in general digusts me, but what I have to wonder is this: Is it because it's somehow genuinely unnatural and bad or because of a cultural bias?
Intergalactic Christ
10-30-2005, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by Whimsicality@Oct 30 2005, 01:53 PM
We've pretty much focused on hetrosexual incest, but what's everyone's opinion of homosexual incest?
As for me, personally, the idea of incest in general digusts me, but what I have to wonder is this: Is it because it's somehow genuinely unnatural and bad or because of a cultural bias?
Geniunely unnatural I'd say. If it was natural, I don't think the genes would get so mixed up, and produce mixed up offspring.
Homosexual incest, same really. At least they can't have children. But it still causes tension within a family.
The Outsider
10-31-2005, 12:30 AM
I dont care what they do in between themselves but when it gets to the point of being incest, society has it ITS COMPLETLEY NUTZ !!
saunderitos
10-31-2005, 06:18 AM
Originally posted by The Outsider@Oct 30 2005, 04:40 AM
as long as u keep incest in the family its fine with me
:lol:
Geniunely unnatural I'd say. If it was natural, I don't think the genes would get so mixed up, and produce mixed up offspring.
The only reason that happens is because now we are SO genetically similar,whereas at the creation we weren't.
+ / –
10-31-2005, 02:32 PM
Well we are all so similar, family or otherwise. Humans share about 90% (don't know the exact percentage) of their genes with other humans. We are all very similar genetically.
And hey, there are some messed-up offspring that come from non-incestual relations as well.
Take my sister, for instance.
EDIT: Whoa. Two Rammstein fans with the name 'Christ.'
Intergalactic Christ
10-31-2005, 03:18 PM
Originally posted by saunderitos@Oct 31 2005, 07:18 AM
Geniunely unnatural I'd say. If it was natural, I don't think the genes would get so mixed up, and produce mixed up offspring.
The only reason that happens is because now we are SO genetically similar,whereas at the creation we weren't.
More likely in same family relationships though.
I know Xero :D odd isnt it?
esaul17
11-15-2005, 01:00 AM
99.9% of our genome is identical.
saunderitos
11-19-2005, 12:24 PM
but its the bit that stays the same through one family that makes incestrial sex dangerous.
Mechanical Christ
11-19-2005, 01:18 PM
The question that came to my mind about homosexual incest is; does homosexual incest cause more or less problems than hetero-incest?
Amanda
11-19-2005, 04:20 PM
The question that came to my mind about homosexual incest is; does homosexual incest cause more or less problems than hetero-incest?
Probably more since people still aren't very accepting of gay people and that on top of incest would be even worse.
esaul17
11-19-2005, 05:32 PM
but its the bit that stays the same through one family that makes incestrial sex dangerous.
It's all about dominant and reccesive genes. If two resecives pair up they are displayed. It is more likely for them to pair up if both people ahve them. This is more likely when they are related. If the recessive genes are dangerous, tht is where problems occur.
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