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I posted this in the Believe Me thread, but Mike uses a sample in the Garage Band program on Mac's. Here is the sample, then compare it with Believe Me.
http://rapidshare.de/files/5886182/Orchest...8_copy.aif.html (http://rapidshare.de/files/5886182/Orchestra_Strings_08_copy.aif.html)
If this is the wrong forum, just move it.
Chris.
10-04-2005, 11:19 PM
Wow, you're right.
:wth:
Ander
10-05-2005, 12:04 AM
Hahah. Decent.
wow , nice catch.
hope he doesnt get sued :o
KirbyRockz
10-05-2005, 01:18 AM
Hahaha, sickness.
Louis
10-05-2005, 01:53 AM
Originally posted by sicx@Oct 4 2005, 11:15 PM
I posted this in the Believe Me thread, but Mike uses a sample in the Garage Band program on Mac's. Here is the sample, then compare it with Believe Me.
http://rapidshare.de/files/5886182/Orchest...8_copy.aif.html (http://rapidshare.de/files/5886182/Orchestra_Strings_08_copy.aif.html)
If this is the wrong forum, just move it.
People like you need to be paid. :lol:
Originally posted by GiriosXeni+Oct 4 2005, 05:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (GiriosXeni @ Oct 4 2005, 05:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--sicx@Oct 4 2005, 11:15 PM
I posted this in the Believe Me thread, but Mike uses a sample in the Garage Band program on Mac's. Here is the sample, then compare it with Believe Me.
http://rapidshare.de/files/5886182/Orchest...8_copy.aif.html (http://rapidshare.de/files/5886182/Orchestra_Strings_08_copy.aif.html)
If this is the wrong forum, just move it.
People like you need to be paid. :lol: [/b][/quote]
That's what I keep telling everbody....but no, I'm not good enough :(
Astat
10-05-2005, 03:18 AM
Isn't Garage Band a music production program? If that's the case, I don't see a problem with using a sample from it, since that's kinda what it's purpose is anyway. I mean, they sampled a Led Zeppelin track (The Ocean) on Dolla from the FM mixtape, and there's no big deal over that.
Chris.
10-05-2005, 03:22 AM
Originally posted by tasta@Oct 4 2005, 11:18 PM
Isn't Garage Band a music production program? If that's the case, I don't see a problem with using a sample from it, since that's kinda what it's purpose is anyway. I mean, they sampled a Led Zeppelin track (The Ocean) on Dolla from the FM mixtape, and there's no big deal over that.
How do you know that? Is the mixtape out?
Astat
10-05-2005, 03:27 AM
Originally posted by BuriedxTragedy+Oct 4 2005, 11:22 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (BuriedxTragedy @ Oct 4 2005, 11:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--tasta@Oct 4 2005, 11:18 PM
Isn't Garage Band a music production program? If that's the case, I don't see a problem with using a sample from it, since that's kinda what it's purpose is anyway. I mean, they sampled a Led Zeppelin track (The Ocean) on Dolla from the FM mixtape, and there's no big deal over that.
How do you know that? Is the mixtape out? [/b][/quote]
No, but it's been talked about already on the FM boards, and I heard a live clip of the song. Being a Zeppelin fan, I knew the sample as soon as I heard it.
And before I get PMs from people asking about it, it was a crappy quality live bootleg recording, and it was only a clip of the song. I deleted it after a couple listens and don't even have it now. The mixtape's gonna be out this month, you'll hear a good quality version soon enough.
Imprint
10-05-2005, 05:25 AM
Yeah, when I first heard Believe Me, the first thing that came to mind was Garage Band. I remember using that sample for a multimedia presentation. I guess Mike is Garage Band user too.
it wont let me download it.....?
[edit]: thats obviously been stolen - tut tut mike
Originally posted by tasta@Oct 4 2005, 07:18 PM
Isn't Garage Band a music production program? If that's the case, I don't see a problem with using a sample from it, since that's kinda what it's purpose is anyway. I mean, they sampled a Led Zeppelin track (The Ocean) on Dolla from the FM mixtape, and there's no big deal over that.
I'm getting on Mike for using a pre-made sample. If it was a sound that he made into some notes then I wouldn't be trippin'. It shows that whoever made the beat how lazy and talentless they are. If they have to use a pre-made sample to make a beat. That's just my opinion.
Astat
10-05-2005, 10:45 PM
Originally posted by sicx+Oct 5 2005, 04:43 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (sicx @ Oct 5 2005, 04:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--tasta@Oct 4 2005, 07:18 PM
Isn't Garage Band a music production program? If that's the case, I don't see a problem with using a sample from it, since that's kinda what it's purpose is anyway. I mean, they sampled a Led Zeppelin track (The Ocean) on Dolla from the FM mixtape, and there's no big deal over that.
I'm getting on Mike for using a pre-made sample. If it was a sound that he made into some notes then I wouldn't be trippin'. It shows that whoever made the beat how lazy and talentless they are. If they have to use a pre-made sample to make a beat. That's just my opinion. [/b][/quote]
The strings aren't the only thing in there though, Mike still did the percussion and bassline and all the other samples in there himself. This isn't like what Vanilla Ice did to Under Pressure..."Mine has that *tsh!* noise in it! That makes all the difference!" :lol:
$pvcxGhxztCasey
10-05-2005, 10:57 PM
Originally posted by sicx@Oct 4 2005, 06:15 PM
I posted this in the Believe Me thread, but Mike uses a sample in the Garage Band program on Mac's. Here is the sample, then compare it with Believe Me.
http://rapidshare.de/files/5886182/Orchest...8_copy.aif.html (http://rapidshare.de/files/5886182/Orchestra_Strings_08_copy.aif.html)
If this is the wrong forum, just move it.
Do you have a life?
Oh my god, Mike copied/ripped off/ACTUALLY USED GARAGE BAND in a song. Get over it. It's a tiny little sample.
Derek
10-06-2005, 03:54 AM
Originally posted by tasta+Oct 5 2005, 05:45 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (tasta @ Oct 5 2005, 05:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -sicx@Oct 5 2005, 04:43 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--tasta@Oct 4 2005, 07:18 PM
Isn't Garage Band a music production program? If that's the case, I don't see a problem with using a sample from it, since that's kinda what it's purpose is anyway. I mean, they sampled a Led Zeppelin track (The Ocean) on Dolla from the FM mixtape, and there's no big deal over that.
I'm getting on Mike for using a pre-made sample. If it was a sound that he made into some notes then I wouldn't be trippin'. It shows that whoever made the beat how lazy and talentless they are. If they have to use a pre-made sample to make a beat. That's just my opinion.
The strings aren't the only thing in there though, Mike still did the percussion and bassline and all the other samples in there himself. This isn't like what Vanilla Ice did to Under Pressure..."Mine has that *tsh!* noise in it! That makes all the difference!" :lol: [/b][/quote]
"Their's goes..dun dun dun dika dun dun..dun dun dun dun dika dun dun..."
"Ours goes..dun dun dika dun dun *TSH* duna dun dun dika dun dun.."
"It's that little bitty ting..its not the same!"
Originally posted by Casey+Oct 5 2005, 02:57 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Casey @ Oct 5 2005, 02:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--sicx@Oct 4 2005, 06:15 PM
I posted this in the Believe Me thread, but Mike uses a sample in the Garage Band program on Mac's. Here is the sample, then compare it with Believe Me.
http://rapidshare.de/files/5886182/Orchest...8_copy.aif.html (http://rapidshare.de/files/5886182/Orchestra_Strings_08_copy.aif.html)
If this is the wrong forum, just move it.
Do you have a life?
Oh my god, Mike copied/ripped off/ACTUALLY USED GARAGE BAND in a song. Get over it. It's a tiny little sample. [/b][/quote]
And you're a tiny little man, get a life? I probly have more of a life than you, since you're the one with how many thousand posts? Please.
Originally posted by tasta+Oct 5 2005, 02:45 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (tasta @ Oct 5 2005, 02:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -sicx@Oct 5 2005, 04:43 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--tasta@Oct 4 2005, 07:18 PM
Isn't Garage Band a music production program? If that's the case, I don't see a problem with using a sample from it, since that's kinda what it's purpose is anyway. I mean, they sampled a Led Zeppelin track (The Ocean) on Dolla from the FM mixtape, and there's no big deal over that.
I'm getting on Mike for using a pre-made sample. If it was a sound that he made into some notes then I wouldn't be trippin'. It shows that whoever made the beat how lazy and talentless they are. If they have to use a pre-made sample to make a beat. That's just my opinion.
The strings aren't the only thing in there though, Mike still did the percussion and bassline and all the other samples in there himself. This isn't like what Vanilla Ice did to Under Pressure..."Mine has that *tsh!* noise in it! That makes all the difference!" :lol: [/b][/quote]
True, I mean he showed that he has talent and is a very skilled man with the Remember The Name beat. That beat is PHAT! :mike:
But I don't see why he would use a pre-made sample when he has the mind set to make his own samples.
If he owns garage band... doesn't that mean he can use the sample? Wouldn't that make it an almost open source sound? Freely distributable material?
Besides, it's a fucking part of a beat. How do you make a new beat, you put already made materials together. See my point?
So the next person who says that Mike's a freeloading no talent scumbag can:
i) Go fuck themselves
ii) Try to write, produce and make a whole album in under a year.
iii) Fail.
This thread is hillarious.
~xXmEt30R4_1Uv3r_03.23.03Xx~
10-07-2005, 04:22 AM
Originally posted by Neil@Oct 6 2005, 06:12 AM
So the next person who says that Mike's a freeloading no talent scumbag can:
i) Go fuck themselves
ii) Try to write, produce and make a whole album in under a year.
iii) Fail.
I think a mixture of the three would work out fine. :lol:
Holy Sh*t dude ur right it sounds the same
Rather Red
10-07-2005, 06:50 PM
Originally posted by sicx+Oct 6 2005, 06:22 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (sicx @ Oct 6 2005, 06:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -Casey@Oct 5 2005, 02:57 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--sicx@Oct 4 2005, 06:15 PM
I posted this in the Believe Me thread, but Mike uses a sample in the Garage Band program on Mac's. Here is the sample, then compare it with Believe Me.
http://rapidshare.de/files/5886182/Orchest...8_copy.aif.html (http://rapidshare.de/files/5886182/Orchestra_Strings_08_copy.aif.html)
If this is the wrong forum, just move it.
Do you have a life?
Oh my god, Mike copied/ripped off/ACTUALLY USED GARAGE BAND in a song. Get over it. It's a tiny little sample.
And you're a tiny little man, get a life? I probly have more of a life than you, since you're the one with how many thousand posts? Please. [/b][/quote]
HAHAHAHA! snap
Justin V.
10-07-2005, 07:06 PM
Originally posted by Neil@Oct 6 2005, 12:12 PM
If he owns garage band... doesn't that mean he can use the sample? Wouldn't that make it an almost open source sound? Freely distributable material?
Besides, it's a fucking part of a beat. How do you make a new beat, you put already made materials together. See my point?
So the next person who says that Mike's a freeloading no talent scumbag can:
i) Go fuck themselves
ii) Try to write, produce and make a whole album in under a year.
iii) Fail.
I think you're missing the point here. Mike said he was going to play most of the instruments AND... AND make his own samples. I could give a fuck less if Mike samples at all. Sampling is hip-hop (Kanye West duh). But it's the fact that he seems to pride himself on not sampling and making his own.
Now "making a new beat" is a different process. In music there are two types of samples. Loops and one-shots. One shots are what the "beat" are made out of. One drum, one snare. The beat isn't pre-made, but each individual part of a drumset is. THAT takes creativity! Now getting a string section to re-do a Garage Band sample? Not so much creativity involved.
So there's a difference between "HE USED SAMPLES FOR THAT BEAT!" and "HE COPIED GARAGE BAND!" Saying the beat is sampled is like saying playing a keyboard is sampling every note of a real piano, it is, but it's not. There's a difference.
Even though I just typed that, I really don't care if he samples or not. Sampling is a part of hip-hop. I just don't want dudes to get making a beat and using a string sample twisted. And yes, it's royalty free so he can use it all he wants.
P.S. - I've fucked myself, wrote and produced my first album in under a year, and failed at many a thing!
Derek
10-07-2005, 07:14 PM
Yeah it is a little sad that Mike just took the sound and didn't alter it at all. Mike goes on about making the album organic then rips off a computer made sample.
Sad thing is we all know Mike probably could've written a better violin sample then that..
Mushroom Cloud
10-08-2005, 01:10 PM
Originally posted by Derekt Hit@Oct 7 2005, 07:14 PM
Yeah it is a little sad that Mike just took the sound and didn't alter it at all. Mike goes on about making the album organic then rips off a computer made sample.
Sad thing is we all know Mike probably could've written a better violin sample then that..
yeah...I have to admit it sucks that he did that.....but it is a hip-hop album......rap artist do it all the time.....but I did expect better from mike.....especially since he had an orchestra at the time......ohwell
Derek
10-08-2005, 04:15 PM
Mike just has to step it up because honestly Fort Minor so far is a joke. He should just call it Styles of Beyond ft. Mike Shinoda because he hasn't outshined SOB at all on any of the songs released to date.
Infact his lyrics on his own songs have gotten worse since Meteora..something tells me this isn't Don Gilmore.
So what?
If it wasn't for samples we wouldn't have half of Tupacs songs, many many Eminem songs or Many Coolio songs.
Its true Mike could have come up with a better sample than this but to be honest I think the song is fine and pretty catchy and Fort Minor is shaping up to be quite good.
Originally posted by Hellflame@Oct 8 2005, 08:28 PM
So what?
If it wasn't for samples we wouldn't have half of Tupacs songs, many many Eminem songs or Many Coolio songs.
Its true Mike could have come up with a better sample than this but to be honest I think the song is fine and pretty catchy and Fort Minor is shaping up to be quite good.
...and thats then end of that chapeter :lol:
That's kind of weird, but Mike does what he wants.
IAlsoLikeLP
10-09-2005, 06:02 AM
so what ur saying is that mike ripped some stuff of a grage band that havent hit the big time yet??
Originally posted by IAlsoLikeLP@Oct 9 2005, 06:02 AM
so what ur saying is that mike ripped some stuff of a grage band that havent hit the big time yet??
Yes, that's exactly what he's saying.
Originally posted by Geki@Oct 9 2005, 12:37 AM
That's kind of weird, but Mike does what he wants.
and he likes what he does :lol:
Chris.
10-09-2005, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by Paul+Oct 9 2005, 02:03 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Paul @ Oct 9 2005, 02:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--IAlsoLikeLP@Oct 9 2005, 06:02 AM
so what ur saying is that mike ripped some stuff of a grage band that havent hit the big time yet??
Yes, that's exactly what he's saying. [/b][/quote]
:lol: :lol: :lol:
EDIT: I don't see this as a big deal and just because sicx posted about it. It's kind of interesting. Some people in this thread really need to calm the fuck down though. The attacks are ridiculous.
boojitsu
10-11-2005, 04:39 PM
haha this is a sad notice, but if you listen to the end, it goes UP instead of staying flat... that's a difference :)
and who knows
we're all up on mike saying he ripped it off... .maybe he DIDN"T... and heard that somewhere (the violin song on whatever the program is) and a couple months later, when writing... kinda was like i want to be like this ... and starts writing violins basically with the tune in his head he heard a while ago but not really remembering where he heard it...
i've done that quite a few times with guitar and sometimes i never remember where i heard the riff...
example:
http://www.myspace.com/boojitsu21
song: Lacking
i wrote the song... and later found out i ripped off a band called lovedrug... the guitar is very similar (if not identical) but still a different style song, whatever.... so if any of you know lovedrug (or don't and are interested in checking them out) you can see how i basically "copied" them... but i honestly didn't mean to haha
-Boojitsu21
Aplacetorest
10-19-2005, 06:00 PM
Originally posted by Casey+Oct 5 2005, 10:57 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Casey @ Oct 5 2005, 10:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--sicx@Oct 4 2005, 06:15 PM
I posted this in the Believe Me thread, but Mike uses a sample in the Garage Band program on Mac's. Here is the sample, then compare it with Believe Me.
http://rapidshare.de/files/5886182/Orchest...8_copy.aif.html (http://rapidshare.de/files/5886182/Orchestra_Strings_08_copy.aif.html)
If this is the wrong forum, just move it.
Do you have a life?
Oh my god, Mike copied/ripped off/ACTUALLY USED GARAGE BAND in a song. Get over it. It's a tiny little sample. [/b][/quote]
good call
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