Believe Me

[Feenix]

No it hasn't been released quite yet, but LPfuse have a radio rip. It's a pretty good song. Quite different from Petrified and RTN as well.


Believe Me

I guess that this is where we've come to
If you don't want to, then you don't have to believe me
But I, wont be there when you go down
Just so you know now
You're on your own now, believe me

Ryu:
Yo, I don't wanna be the one to blame
You like fun and games, keep playin' 'em
I'm just sayin'
Think back then we was like one and the same
On the right track, but I was on the wrong train
It's like that, now you gotta face the pain
And the devil's got a fresh new place to play
In your brain like a maze you can never escape
The reign, every damn day's the same shade of grey

Mike:
Hey, I used to have a little bit of a plan
Used to, have a concept of where I stand
But that concept slipped right outta my hand
Now, I dont really even know who I am
Yo, what do I have to say? Maybe
I should do what I have to do to break free, and
Whatever happens to you, we'll see
But its not gonna happen with me

I guess that this is where we've come to
If you don't want to, then you don't have to believe me
But I, wont be there when you go down
Just so you know now
You're on your own now, believe me

Mike:
Back then, I thought you were just like me
Somebody who could see all the pain I see
But you proved to me unintentionally
That you would self destruct eventually
Now i'm thinkin' like the mistake that I made doesn't hurt
But it's not gonna work cause its
Really much worse than I thought
I wished you were something you were not
And now this guilt is really all that I've got

Tak:
You turned your back and walk away ashamed
All you got
Is a memory and pain, nothing makes sense
You stare at the ground, and hear my voice inside your head
When no one else is around
What do i have to say
Maybe i should do what i have to do to break free, yeah
Whatever happens to you, we'll see
But it's not gonna happen to me

I guess that this is where we've come to
If you don't want to, then you don't have to believe me
But I, wont be there when you go down
Just so you know now
You're on your own now, believe me

(Yeah. Lets go)

I'm guess that this is where we've come to
(Yeah)
If you don't want to, then you don't have to believe me
But I, wont be there when you go down
(Yeah)
Just so you know now
You're on your own now, believe me

I'm doing what I have to do
You're on your own now believe me
Whatever happens to you
You're on your own now believe me
What do I have to say?
You're on your own now believe me
Its not gonna happen to me
You're on your own now believe me


Lyrics transcribed by Duo and Jon, corrected by Feenix

[somekid]

great song



EDIT: btw theres already an album version at lpfuse.co.uk

[Luke/Hellflame]

Its fucking catchy :lol:

A bit popish though :mellow: Still awesome B)

[The Modfather]

You know, this was supposed to be on the FM player...but yet LPFUSE is getting it way before anyone else?

I'm sorry..I like LPFUSE a lot, but I think that's wrong. It's not fair to other fansites.

[Luke/Hellflame]

Originally posted by Derekt Hit@Oct 3 2005, 07:11 PM
You know, this was supposed to be on the FM player...but yet LPFUSE is getting it way before anyone else?

I'm sorry..I like LPFUSE a lot, but I think that's wrong. It's not fair to other fansites.
Derek I don't mean to bash other fansites but this site is simply better than lpfuse in every way, so what if they get a song before everyone else, it isn't 100% quality anyway ;)

[somekid]

Originally posted by Derekt Hit@Oct 3 2005, 07:11 PM
You know, this was supposed to be on the FM player...but yet LPFUSE is getting it way before anyone else?

I'm sorry..I like LPFUSE a lot, but I think that's wrong. It's not fair to other fansites.
yea. that is a bit unfair...

Anyways.. Who sings the chorus?? If its Mike which (i doubt it is), then wow, thats an accomplishment for mike. Great song anyways.

[The Modfather]

Originally posted by Hellflame+Oct 3 2005, 02:15 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Hellflame @ Oct 3 2005, 02:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Derekt Hit@Oct 3 2005, 07:11 PM
You know, this was supposed to be on the FM player...but yet LPFUSE is getting it way before anyone else?

I'm sorry..I like LPFUSE a lot, but I think that's wrong. It's not fair to other fansites.
Derek I don't mean to bash other fansites but this site is simply better than lpfuse in every way, so what if they get a song before everyone else, it isn't 100% quality anyway ;) [/b][/quote]
This song is terrible.

Really I'm not feeling it at all. Mike should've released Petrified first.

[Luke/Hellflame]

Originally posted by Derekt Hit+Oct 3 2005, 07:17 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Derekt Hit @ Oct 3 2005, 07:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by -Hellflame@Oct 3 2005, 02:15 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Derekt Hit@Oct 3 2005, 07:11 PM
You know, this was supposed to be on the FM player...but yet LPFUSE is getting it way before anyone else?

I'm sorry..I like LPFUSE a lot, but I think that's wrong. It's not fair to other fansites.
Derek I don't mean to bash other fansites but this site is simply better than lpfuse in every way, so what if they get a song before everyone else, it isn't 100% quality anyway ;)
This song is terrible.

Really I'm not feeling it at all. Mike should've released Petrified first. [/b][/quote]
If this is released I garuntee it'll have atleast a top 3 spot. Its very pop like but appeals to hip-hop lovers aswell. Quite personaly I fucking love it :lol:

[Geki]

I've listened to the song about 20 times now, and I must say, it's growing on me. I'm starting to like it actually, I just hate how it's so poppy. I don't want it to be on like Kids Bop or anything, it's a fucking disgrace to music, and it downs the music really. I can almost guarantee you this song will be on Now, or kids bop. If not, something from Fort Minor.

[The Modfather]

Originally posted by Hellflame+Oct 3 2005, 02:21 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Hellflame @ Oct 3 2005, 02:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by -Derekt Hit@Oct 3 2005, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by -Hellflame@Oct 3 2005, 02:15 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Derekt Hit@Oct 3 2005, 07:11 PM
You know, this was supposed to be on the FM player...but yet LPFUSE is getting it way before anyone else?

I'm sorry..I like LPFUSE a lot, but I think that's wrong. It's not fair to other fansites.
Derek I don't mean to bash other fansites but this site is simply better than lpfuse in every way, so what if they get a song before everyone else, it isn't 100% quality anyway ;)
This song is terrible.

Really I'm not feeling it at all. Mike should've released Petrified first.
If this is released I garuntee it'll have atleast a top 3 spot. Its very pop like but appeals to hip-hop lovers aswell. Quite personaly I fucking love it :lol: [/b][/quote]
I just think its the singing. Mike can keep a harmony yes, but that's not neccesarily saying much.

[Andrea]

The song is very poppy. I wasn't expecting this from Mike. I'm not really feeling it and I do think it sucks. Maybe it will grow on me? Who knows? Eh, whatever. -_-

[Dedicated]

Why does no one like the song apart from me and the villain over there? :lol:


He's not doing the 'rock' thing on this album... he's said that already. I'm guessing that you'd all be complaining if all of the songs sounded the same, am I right?

[somekid]

Originally posted by Dedicated@Oct 3 2005, 08:00 PM
Why does no one like the song apart from me and the villain over there? :lol:


I like that song... lol

[Luke/Hellflame]

Originally posted by Dedicated@Oct 3 2005, 08:00 PM
Why does no one like the song apart from me and the villain over there? :lol:


He's not doing the 'rock' thing on this album... he's said that already. I'm guessing that you'd all be complaining if all of the songs sounded the same, am I right?
I'm not a fucking villian :lol:

And yeah, what he said :whistle:

[Andrea]

Originally posted by Dedicated@Oct 3 2005, 04:00 PM
He's not doing the 'rock' thing on this album... he's said that already. I'm guessing that you'd all be complaining if all of the songs sounded the same, am I right?
I'm all for songs that sound different. Yeah, this song is extremely poppy, but atleast he could've made it sound good. It's just I feel like this song is a step down for Mike. I am hoping for better songs on the rest of the album. :)

[Scotty]

A lot of Linkin Park sounds poppy anyway, so why are people making that contrast?

[LPdiscovery02]

i agree bro the song is great... music is music if its metal, pop, whatever if its good its good and no petrified should not be the single because the lyrics are shity.... like a 6 year old wrote it

[Scotty]

Originally posted by LPdiscovery02@Oct 3 2005, 09:09 PM
i agree bro the song is great... music is music if its metal, pop, whatever if its good its good and no petrified should not be the single because the lyrics are shity.... like a 6 year old wrote it
Let's rephrase that before my ass gets flamed. The Petrified lyrics are better than anything from Fort Minor that's been released so far.

[JJ]

ace tune - i love it.... its so catchy ^_^

[ArshenMazer]

Holy crap...this is fucking...awesome...

[Scotty]

It's an okay song. Petrified is a better all-round song, and the singing isn't great but at least it isn't Eminem/D12.

[JJ]

Originally posted by ArshenMazer@Oct 3 2005, 08:14 PM
Holy crap...this is fucking...awesome...
word

[|2awk.Star]

Originally posted by Dean@Oct 3 2005, 08:08 PM
A lot of Linkin Park sounds poppy anyway, so why are people making that contrast?
Because we wanted FM to be a complete depature from Linkin Park. He was like "taking it back to the basics on this one." The song isn't BAD but from all the crap Mike was saying this would not pop into my head. I was thinking stuff like Step Up and Dedicated. Those are more hip-hop than Believe Me. The chorus isn't bad but it sounds like a Linkin Park song that Mike took Chester out of and said "Let me sing it."

Maybe I was expecting too much. If Linkin Park is a Jay-Z, I wanted Fort Minor to be like the latest Mos Def CD. Hopefully rap lovers will get that.

[Scotty]

Originally posted by |2awk.Star+Oct 3 2005, 09:47 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (|2awk.Star @ Oct 3 2005, 09:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Dean@Oct 3 2005, 08:08 PM
A lot of Linkin Park sounds poppy anyway, so why are people making that contrast?
Because we wanted FM to be a complete depature from Linkin Park. He was like "taking it back to the basics on this one." The song isn't BAD but from all the crap Mike was saying this would not pop into my head. I was thinking stuff like Step Up and Dedicated. Those are more hip-hop than Believe Me. The chorus isn't bad but it sounds like a Linkin Park song that Mike took Chester out of and said "Let me sing it."

Maybe I was expecting too much. If Linkin Park is a Jay-Z, I wanted Fort Minor to be like the latest Mos Def CD. Hopefully rap lovers will get that. [/b][/quote]
Okay, I didn't take your first point into consideration with my other post, but Mike didn't guarantee that every FM song would be hip-hop.

[Doctor Manhattan]

Mos Def is overrated anyways. He's no Talib Kweli or Immortal Technique, that's for sure. He isn't the savior to hip-hop like many like to think.

And this is going to seem weird coming from me, but you're all too picky.

[Paul]

Originally posted by Casey@Oct 3 2005, 09:01 PM
And this is going to seem weird coming from me, but you're all too picky.
Agreed.

I don't really care about the lyrics. The thing I pay attention to is the beat. And from what I've heard, Mike is proving himself as a producer.

I like this song, by the way.

[|2awk.Star]

Originally posted by Casey@Oct 3 2005, 09:01 PM
Mos Def is overrated anyways. He's no Talib Kweli or Immortal Technique, that's for sure. He isn't the savior to hip-hop like many like to think.

And this is going to seem weird coming from me, but you're all too picky.
I didn't say he was a savior. Yes, I am too damn picky. Nothing wrong with that. I just expected some And One, It's Going Down, Dedicated, Rock and Roll type skill. I'm not hearing that. If you think ANY of those 3 songs has better lyrics than It's Going Down or Step Up. If you do you're crazy. I really do think the chorus with him singing just ruins the whole tone of the song. I think he can song. I just think he sings the chorus in the wrong fashion.

Back on the picky thing. So? LP and Mike have a way of hyping shit up so when I hear it I'm severely let down. I'm more excited about Chester's stuff. That's partly due to the fact I do hear him going around saying how "rock" it is or how hard he worked besides that little blurb of him describing the songs. I'll still get FM to check the rest of it but it's hard for me to be a rap fan and hear making saying it's a "straight hip-hop" record and he comes with Believe Me. Most everyday rap fans will be like "Man I ain't mesing with Mike Shinoda." The fans will be mostly the people who already like LP. I don't see why he's frontin' like he's a true-to-the-roots rapper. He can rap but he's more of a crossover dude. Not grimy, gutter hip-hop record maker Mike. But I understand that's not where's he's from. Jin Tha Emcee is from Miami and has a muuuuch better flow than Mike and still can connect with the streets.

Mike can make hot beats. But hip-hop isn't just hot beats. If you want that pick up The Massacre or some wack Dipset CDs.

Guess I got all that out :teehee:

[- [Hybrid Theory E¶] -]

lol! well u kno wut i think for all of u those who hate the song or think its popish! look at it this way..... mike said the album was goin 2 be very different than all the rap thats out there! so i mean wut did u expect him rapping about guns, drugs girls and cars?? i dont think soo so i think its his was of rapping and his own stuff, he brought his stuff 2 the table and this is wut he came up with so i think its very creative! and energetic

and lpfuse ripped it when it came on the player.... someone just posted it... i tryed but ur not allowed 2 do it here

[The Modfather]

Originally posted by - [Hybrid Theory E¶] -@Oct 3 2005, 04:41 PM
lol! well u kno wut i think for all of u those who hate the song or think its popish! look at it this way..... mike said the album was goin 2 be very different than all the rap thats out there! so i mean wut did u expect him rapping about guns, drugs girls and cars?? i dont think soo so i think its his was of rapping and his own stuff, he brought his stuff 2 the table and this is wut he came up with so i think its very creative! and energetic

and lpfuse ripped it when it came on the player.... someone just posted it... i tryed but ur not allowed 2 do it here
No. LPFUSE had it ages before it came on the player. And you are still not allowed to post mp3s regardless.

The only mp3s that will be posted on here are the ones we have been cleared to post in the first place.

[|2awk.Star]

Originally posted by - [Hybrid Theory E¶] -@Oct 3 2005, 09:41 PM
lol! well u kno wut i think for all of u those who hate the song or think its popish! look at it this way..... mike said the album was goin 2 be very different than all the rap thats out there! so i mean wut did u expect him rapping about guns, drugs girls and cars?? i dont think soo so i think its his was of rapping and his own stuff, he brought his stuff 2 the table and this is wut he came up with so i think its very creative! and energetic

and lpfuse ripped it when it came on the player.... someone just posted it... i tryed but ur not allowed 2 do it here
You can not rap about guns, drugs, bitches and still be good. Like... Jin Tha Emcee. Mike just isn't as good as I thought he'd be. I don't dislike Believe Me because it's "poppy". It's just the way he sings kind of annoys me and doesn't seem to fit with the song. There is stuff out that that's prety different and still very good. Missy Elliott, Mos Def, Talib, Blackstar, Immortal Technique. Mike just I dunno... like his skill at writing nice lines has just faded a little.

[JJ]

Originally posted by |2awk.Star@Oct 3 2005, 09:59 PM
Mike just I dunno... like his skill at writing nice lines has just faded a little.
i have to disagree with you on that one - i think the raps are tight on all three FM tracks.

mike wanted to do something new and fresh - and think he has achieved that so far - not one for minor track sounds simialr to me. and thats definatly a good thing.

i cant wait till the album hits stores, i'll be queing for my copy ^_^

[Doctor Manhattan]

One track out of 3 leaked tracks and we're already calling the album too poppy or a failure.

Wow.

[Sylar]

This song fucking rocks. You guys are crazy.

[Paul]

Originally posted by Casey@Oct 3 2005, 11:01 PM
One track out of 3 leaked tracks and we're already calling the album too poppy or a failure.

Wow.
I really don't see anything wrong with "Believe Me"

People on this board bitch about all rap being on the same but when Mike tries to do something different it sucks or its so "poppy"

Poppy dosen't mean bad. 80% of Green Day is pop but a lot of people don't bitch about them.

Out of the three songs we've heard, they have all been different to eachother. This is shocking considering the fact it's coming from a member of Linkin Park. Along with good prodution and decent lyrics, I'm totally all for that.

I think people expect waaaay to much out of Linkin Park.

I seriously cannot wait for The Rising Tied.

[Joe]

I like the track, but I still think Petrified or Remember The Name would have made a better first single, but I guess it doesn't really matter. Good stuff.

[xero theory]

the beat is awsome (w00t) ...just the lyrics is alright..mikes lyrics is the best on the song buts thats just my opinion

[Mushroom Cloud]

if you guys want to listen to Its Going Down, And One, and Step Up........then listen to Its Going Down, And One, and Step Up...If Mike made all the songs on the album sound like that...then other people would bitch too...

Im not crazy about Beleive Me.....but keep in mind that singles are singles cause they gotta appeal to a large audiance.....I mean, there are 11 other tracks we have never heard....if the 3 tracks we have heard already have distinct differences between them in style...then just think of the variety on the Rising Tied.....Reanimation was great..and I didnt love Pushing Me Away and High Voltage when they were first released.......Im not going to hype the album before its released without even hearing it.....but people have to realize that singles usually arent the greatest songs on the album....

[|2awk.Star]

:edit: Nevermind. I'm going to stop arguing. I'll just say this.

Those 3 songs are "eh" to me. I remember hearing Somewhere I Belong and thinking the same thing. I didn't get Meteora and now people use it in a negative connotation. "We don't want another Meteora!" I know people who'd back me up on that. I'll still cop this though because I know they'll be some fire on it.

But all in all I like Petrified and RTN but Believe Me is just not something I'd tune in to hear on the radio (even though it's stuck in my head).

And yes, I do expect waaaay too much out of LP because I think in my heart of hearts they can give us waaaay more. I'm jaded because of bands like APC, RATM, NIN. The sonic alchemists of rock.

Hearing the song I wonder what the video will be like.

[xero theory]

Originally posted by Mushroom Cloud@Oct 3 2005, 11:38 PM
if you guys want to listen to Its Going Down, And One, and Step Up........then listen to Its Going Down, And One, and Step Up...If Mike made all the songs on the album sound like that...then other people would bitch too...

Im not crazy about Beleive Me.....but keep in mind that singles are singles cause they gotta appeal to a large audiance.....I mean, there are 11 other tracks we have never heard....if the 3 tracks we have heard already have distinct differences between them in style...then just think of the variety on the Rising Tied.....Reanimation was great..and I didnt love Pushing Me Away and High Voltage when they were first released.......Im not going to hype the album before its released without even hearing it.....but people have to realize that singles usually arent the greatest songs on the album....
thats absoultly true ;)

[- [Hybrid Theory E¶] -]

Originally posted by Casey@Oct 3 2005, 11:01 PM
One track out of 3 leaked tracks and we're already calling the album too poppy or a failure.

Wow.
i kno ehh! these ppl i dunno! but its mikes work! every song that came out they've been sayin sumthin bad! its mikes work he tryed rlly hard 2 accomplish wut he has done! im sorry but u shuld support him for all the things he has done!

just my opinion

[xero theory]

Originally posted by Derekt Hit+Oct 3 2005, 07:17 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Derekt Hit @ Oct 3 2005, 07:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by -Hellflame@Oct 3 2005, 02:15 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Derekt Hit@Oct 3 2005, 07:11 PM
You know, this was supposed to be on the FM player...but yet LPFUSE is getting it way before anyone else?

I'm sorry..I like LPFUSE a lot, but I think that's wrong. It's not fair to other fansites.
Derek I don't mean to bash other fansites but this site is simply better than lpfuse in every way, so what if they get a song before everyone else, it isn't 100% quality anyway ;)
This song is terrible.

Really I'm not feeling it at all. Mike should've released Petrified first. [/b][/quote]
thats what i think too mike should have released this song first

[Omar]

I dunno, I just heard it and I like it a lot. I'm glad Mike is getting away from LP, it will make the next album much more diverse and creative. After all, the number one complaint I hear is all of LP's songs sound the same.

[- [Hybrid Theory E¶] -]

Originally posted by Omar@Oct 4 2005, 12:40 AM
I dunno, I just heard it and I like it a lot. I'm glad Mike is getting away from LP, it will make the next album much more diverse and creative. After all, the number one complaint I hear is all of LP's songs sound the same.
yea same here man its wut exactly thats wut everyone keeps sayin? but i dont hear it at all they sound all creative and amazing, but this will make LP's 3rd album very gud. they wuld expand theyre use in electronics and be more creative

[Omar]

Okay, I'm closing this now, please make all further comments in the news page. Sorry, someone should have done this sooner.