View Full Version : 121 Killed as CYPRIOT Airliner crashes in Greece
Louis
08-14-2005, 04:50 PM
GRAMMATIKO, Greece - A Cypriot airliner crashed into a hill north of Athens on Sunday, killing all 121 people on board. Reports said at least one of the pilots was unconscious when the plane went down, possibly from lack of oxygen in the cabin.
The Helios Airways flight HCY 522 was headed from Larnaca, Cyprus, to Athens International Airport when it crashed at 12:20 p.m. near the town of Grammatiko, about 25 miles north of the Greek capital, leaving flaming debris and luggage strewn across a ravine and surrounding hills.
The Boeing 737, carrying 115 passengers and six crew, was to have flown onto Prague, Czech Republic, after stopping in Athens.
Full Article (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8944885)
This is one of the most serious crashes related with both Greece in Cyprus. My parents, my brother and I are natives and are currently making calls to see if all of our family members are alright and that no one was killed. This worries me greatly.
Woah. I hope your relatives are okay, Girios.
MariosLP
08-14-2005, 06:23 PM
i live in Cyprus and a friend killed in that aeroplane...i am so sad :(
Louis
08-14-2005, 06:24 PM
Originally posted by MariosLP@Aug 14 2005, 06:23 PM
i live in Cyprus and a friend killed in that aeroplane...i am so sad :(
You had a friend killed on the airplane, Mario?
I'm so sorry. I'm still not sure if any one of my family members was killed either...
MariosLP
08-14-2005, 06:26 PM
Originally posted by GiriosXeni+Aug 14 2005, 09:24 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (GiriosXeni @ Aug 14 2005, 09:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--MariosLP@Aug 14 2005, 06:23 PM
i live in Cyprus and a friend killed in that aeroplane...i am so sad :(
You had a friend killed on the airplane, Mario?
I'm so sorry. I'm still not sure if any one of my family members was killed either... [/b][/quote]
yes...that's too bad :(
Louis
08-14-2005, 06:28 PM
My condolences go out to all of the familes who had relatives or friends on the airplane. Our thoughts are with them.
And my thoughts are with you, Mario.
Cassie
08-14-2005, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by GiriosXeni@Aug 14 2005, 12:50 PM
Reports said at least one of the pilots was unconscious when the plane went down, possibly from lack of oxygen in the cabin.
:'( Oh my gosh...
Originally posted by MariosLP@Aug 14 2005, 07:23 PM
i live in Cyprus and a friend killed in that aeroplane...i am so sad :(
Sorry to hear, Mario.
Omar A
08-14-2005, 06:39 PM
R.I.P.
Louis
08-14-2005, 06:41 PM
God, I still have the article minimized on the computer.
We're making so many calls, it's unbelievable.
UPDATE:
The article is a bit incorrect, I think. The a/c on the plane broke and the passengers froze to death and then the plane crashed.
There were 80 children on the plane.
Canadian Joe
08-15-2005, 05:59 AM
Not so much as "the air conditioning broke" as "the a/c packs failed" (and for BOTH packs to fail...whoo, a million to one). Anyways, it's been put down squarely to decompression at FL340. Apparently, a few pax tried to take control of the airplane, but didn't descend fast enough (read: you really need to give 'er), and lost oxygen. The plane crash itself was fuel starvation.
Really sad to hear.
Edit: It was Helios Airways (http://www.flyhelios.com/) that was involved, with a Boeing 737-31S - 5B-DBY (http://www.airliners.net/open.file/901291/M/)
Anthony.
08-15-2005, 06:20 AM
Gosh, at FL340 to get a reasonable amount of air in a short time it's not a descent, it's a steep dive...
I do wonder, however, with all their experience, why didn't the pilots go for a fast descent rate to get to an acceptable level...
Canadian Joe
08-15-2005, 06:40 AM
On most Airbus planes (excluding the A300/A310), there's a button on the autopilot marked "Expedite". This is your 'go, baby, go' button for things like this. In a Boeing, you just slap off the autopilot and go for it...and pull the flight spoilers as well (preferrably all the way back to flt detent). I'd like to know why the crew never put their O2 masks on...they're there for a reason...
And yeah, FL340 is pretty high. It's right near the service ceiling of the 737 Classic (-300/400/500) as well (which is FL350)...although I've been to 410 on a 737-700 :chemist:
Originally posted by SmashPilot@Aug 15 2005, 12:59 AM
Not so much as "the air conditioning broke" as "the a/c packs failed" (and for BOTH packs to fail...whoo, a million to one). Anyways, it's been put down squarely to decompression at FL340. Apparently, a few pax tried to take control of the airplane, but didn't descend fast enough (read: you really need to give 'er), and lost oxygen. The plane crash itself was fuel starvation.
Really sad to hear.
Very sad to hear :(
But, what does all that mean? I don't know any aviation terms so what you said pretty much makes no sense to me.
Evan™
08-15-2005, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by GiriosXeni@Aug 14 2005, 06:41 PM
God, I still have the article minimized on the computer.
We're making so many calls, it's unbelievable.
UPDATE:
The article is a bit incorrect, I think. The a/c on the plane broke and the passengers froze to death and then the plane crashed.
There were 80 children on the plane.
holy....80 kids? on one flight? god bless their souls....they didnt deserve to die so young...
Originally posted by GiriosXeni@Aug 14 2005, 01:41 PM
God, I still have the article minimized on the computer.
We're making so many calls, it's unbelievable.
UPDATE:
The article is a bit incorrect, I think. The a/c on the plane broke and the passengers froze to death and then the plane crashed.
There were 80 children on the plane.
Wow, that's just really sad.
...and of course we have SmashPilot explaining everything with his fancy aviation terms. :rolleyes:
Messy Marj
08-15-2005, 08:54 PM
Originally posted by MariosLP@Aug 14 2005, 06:23 PM
i live in Cyprus and a friend killed in that aeroplane...i am so sad :(
oh wow I'm sorry to hear that Mario.. :hugz:
RIP
Brentaliath
08-15-2005, 09:24 PM
I'm so sorry, the best of wishes to you. :)
Glenn
08-15-2005, 10:10 PM
R.I.P everybody on the plane. :(
Louis
08-16-2005, 12:56 AM
Now friends of my Grandmothers were on that plane.
Suicide slums, here I come.
MariosLP
08-16-2005, 02:35 AM
Thanks guys :hugz:
I am sorry and about you Girios :mellow:
Anthony.
08-16-2005, 02:57 AM
Originally posted by Todd+Aug 15 2005, 02:41 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Todd @ Aug 15 2005, 02:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--SmashPilot@Aug 15 2005, 12:59 AM
Not so much as "the air conditioning broke" as "the a/c packs failed" (and for BOTH packs to fail...whoo, a million to one). Anyways, it's been put down squarely to decompression at FL340. Apparently, a few pax tried to take control of the airplane, but didn't descend fast enough (read: you really need to give 'er), and lost oxygen. The plane crash itself was fuel starvation.
Really sad to hear.
Very sad to hear :(
But, what does all that mean? I don't know any aviation terms so what you said pretty much makes no sense to me. [/b][/quote]
The plane was flying at 34000ft. when SOMETHING fucked up. Basically, air pressure at this altitude is low, air itself is rare, so any opening in the fuselage or compression failiure will result in a dangerous situation.
Passengers tried to take control of the airplane but failed to bring it back home safely.
That's about it. Am I right Joe?
Oh, and I'm really sorry for the losses, guys :( .
Since I'm 100% Greek and that I have family in Cyprus this truly saddens me. Lucky for me, none of my family members were on the plane. My uncle was suppose to get on the plane when it was suppose to land in Athens. I'm sorry about your friend Mario.
MariosLP
08-16-2005, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by Paul@Aug 16 2005, 09:10 AM
Since I'm 100% Greek and that I have family in Cyprus this truly saddens me. Lucky for me, none of my family members were on the plane. My uncle was suppose to get on the plane when it was suppose to land in Athens. I'm sorry about your friend Mario.
Ise elinas?
kalo auto!
pou meneeis?
Chris(tmas)
08-16-2005, 12:27 PM
I heard on the news there were 18 instead of 80?
I quote from cnn.com
A passenger list showed the German chief pilot, a family of four Armenians living in Cyprus, 12 Greeks and 104 Cypriots were killed in the crash. There were 17 children under the age of 16 on board, the youngest aged four.
Well, not 18 but that sounds alot like 80.
MariosLP
08-16-2005, 12:48 PM
Originally posted by Chris@Aug 16 2005, 03:27 PM
I heard on the news there were 18 instead of 80?
I quote from cnn.com
A passenger list showed the German chief pilot, a family of four Armenians living in Cyprus, 12 Greeks and 104 Cypriots were killed in the crash. There were 17 children under the age of 16 on board, the youngest aged four.
Well, not 18 but that sounds alot like 80.
No...the correct number of people under 18 year old who died were 48!
I read the list with the passengers in the cyprus news
Chris(tmas)
08-16-2005, 12:55 PM
Originally posted by MariosLP+Aug 16 2005, 02:48 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MariosLP @ Aug 16 2005, 02:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Chris@Aug 16 2005, 03:27 PM
I heard on the news there were 18 instead of 80?
I quote from cnn.com
A passenger list showed the German chief pilot, a family of four Armenians living in Cyprus, 12 Greeks and 104 Cypriots were killed in the crash. There were 17 children under the age of 16 on board, the youngest aged four.
Well, not 18 but that sounds alot like 80.
No...the correct number of people under 18 year old who died were 48!
I read the list with the passengers in the cyprus news [/b][/quote]
Then there would be 31 people between 16 and 18. Plus 17 is 48.
MariosLP
08-16-2005, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by Chris+Aug 16 2005, 03:55 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Chris @ Aug 16 2005, 03:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -MariosLP@Aug 16 2005, 02:48 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Chris@Aug 16 2005, 03:27 PM
I heard on the news there were 18 instead of 80?
I quote from cnn.com
A passenger list showed the German chief pilot, a family of four Armenians living in Cyprus, 12 Greeks and 104 Cypriots were killed in the crash. There were 17 children under the age of 16 on board, the youngest aged four.
Well, not 18 but that sounds alot like 80.
No...the correct number of people under 18 year old who died were 48!
I read the list with the passengers in the cyprus news
Then there would be 31 people between 16 and 18. Plus 17 is 48. [/b][/quote]
maybe the cnn news were saying under the age of 12...maybe.i don't know
Chris(tmas)
08-16-2005, 01:07 PM
Maybe we're both right. Its holiday-season so alot of people between 16-18 go on holiday.
MariosLP
08-16-2005, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by Chris@Aug 16 2005, 04:07 PM
Maybe we're both right. Its holiday-season so alot of people between 16-18 go on holiday.
yeah maybe...but the thing is that those guys today are dead.thats the hole point :mellow:
Chris(tmas)
08-16-2005, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by MariosLP+Aug 16 2005, 03:28 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MariosLP @ Aug 16 2005, 03:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Chris@Aug 16 2005, 04:07 PM
Maybe we're both right. Its holiday-season so alot of people between 16-18 go on holiday.
yeah maybe...but the thing is that those guys today are dead.thats the hole point :mellow: [/b][/quote]
I figured that out already.
Though the plane was heading to the Czech Republic, there were no Czechs on board. But people here were really thrilled and worried that their relatives might be on the plane.
Anyways I feel really sorry for the relatives and friends of the 121 victims :(
Originally posted by MariosLP+Aug 16 2005, 11:38 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MariosLP @ Aug 16 2005, 11:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Paul@Aug 16 2005, 09:10 AM
Since I'm 100% Greek and that I have family in Cyprus this truly saddens me. Lucky for me, none of my family members were on the plane. My uncle was suppose to get on the plane when it was suppose to land in Athens. I'm sorry about your friend Mario.
Ise elinas?
kalo auto!
pou meneeis? [/b][/quote]
Yeah I'm Greek.
Both of my parents were born in Greece. My father is from a xopro about 40 minutes away from Tripoli and my mom is from Kaprinesi.
I was born in America, however.
Originally posted by MariosLP+Aug 16 2005, 11:38 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MariosLP @ Aug 16 2005, 11:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Paul@Aug 16 2005, 09:10 AM
Since I'm 100% Greek and that I have family in Cyprus this truly saddens me. Lucky for me, none of my family members were on the plane. My uncle was suppose to get on the plane when it was suppose to land in Athens. I'm sorry about your friend Mario.
Ise elinas?
kalo auto!
pou meneeis? [/b][/quote]
Yeah I'm Greek.
Both of my parents were born in Greece. My father is from a xopro about 40 minutes away from Tripoli and my mom is from Kaprinesi.
I was born in America, however.
Louis
08-17-2005, 02:00 AM
Originally posted by Paul+Aug 16 2005, 06:12 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Paul @ Aug 16 2005, 06:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -MariosLP@Aug 16 2005, 11:38 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Paul@Aug 16 2005, 09:10 AM
Since I'm 100% Greek and that I have family in Cyprus this truly saddens me. Lucky for me, none of my family members were on the plane. My uncle was suppose to get on the plane when it was suppose to land in Athens. I'm sorry about your friend Mario.
Ise elinas?
kalo auto!
pou meneeis?
Yeah I'm Greek.
Both of my parents were born in Greece. My father is from a xopro about 40 minutes away from Tripoli and my mom is from Kaprinesi.
I was born in America, however. [/b][/quote]
Glad to see another Greek...
But...god damn it, I'm still depressed about this.
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