GTA:San Andreas Sexual Secrets

[Luke/Hellflame]

GTA:San Andreas Sex Secrets (http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/07/12/news_6128902.html?tag=lastword_all_headline)

LMAO :lol:

This could only happen in the country where most games of a violent nature are barred from the black market :lol:

[User Name]

I was going to post that yesterday, but I never got around to it.

That's umm, hmm. I don't know how to put it. :lol:

[Luke/Hellflame]

I wonder if they did the codes in the other versions aswell :lol:

[The Modfather]

Originally posted by Hellflame@Jul 13 2005, 02:47 PM
I wonder if they did the codes in the other versions aswell :lol:
PS2 has it as well. You just need an action replay max cartlidge to play it.

[JJ]

haha ace ^_^

[越南]

hehe , i saw this on G4.
i think its pretty funny when people buy the game only for the
sex secrets..

[Scotty]

I pity anyone why gets a kick out of watching video game sprites get it on.

[The Modfather]

Originally posted by Dean@Jul 13 2005, 04:04 PM
I pity anyone why gets a kick out of watching video game sprites get it on.
But lyk omg, didn't you SOOO download the Nude Raider patch when it was out?!?!?1?!/1//?!/!

LAURA CRAFT IZ SO HAWT.
==

*Ahem*.

[Scotty]

Originally posted by Derek+Jul 13 2005, 10:16 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Derek @ Jul 13 2005, 10:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Dean@Jul 13 2005, 04:04 PM
I pity anyone why gets a kick out of watching video game sprites get it on.
But lyk omg, didn't you SOOO download the Nude Raider patch when it was out?!?!?1?!/1//?!/!

LAURA CRAFT IZ SO HAWT.
==

*Ahem*. [/b][/quote]
That could easily have been an impression of me five years ago.

[DiSiLLUSiON]

Originally posted by Dean+Jul 13 2005, 09:21 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Dean @ Jul 13 2005, 09:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by -Derek@Jul 13 2005, 10:16 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Dean@Jul 13 2005, 04:04 PM
I pity anyone why gets a kick out of watching video game sprites get it on.
But lyk omg, didn't you SOOO download the Nude Raider patch when it was out?!?!?1?!/1//?!/!

LAURA CRAFT IZ SO HAWT.
==

*Ahem*.
That could easily have been an impression of me five years ago. [/b][/quote]
Dear god, I feel old.

[Joe]

Originally posted by Derek+Jul 13 2005, 10:16 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Derek @ Jul 13 2005, 10:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Dean@Jul 13 2005, 04:04 PM
I pity anyone why gets a kick out of watching video game sprites get it on.
But lyk omg, didn't you SOOO download the Nude Raider patch when it was out?!?!?1?!/1//?!/!

LAURA CRAFT IZ SO HAWT.
==

*Ahem*. [/b][/quote]
I think Derek is posting this to see how we react, to see if it's safe to confess his true feelings for Lara.

I saw this a while back, it seems kind of funny. I've seen the pics, but haven't actually got round to playing the mod.

[Cale.]

I was going to post about this. I think it's ridiculous, especially since the game has to be hacked in order to get to the content. The game, as shipped, contains no such sex scene.

Although originally coded, the part was removed from the game (probably to avoid such controversy). By disassembling the game and changing the code, yes, one can make the part appear. But that requires substantial user interaction. A mod has been released to automate the process by some hacker dude, but it's not part of the game. This still requires a user to install additional software that is not sponsored by the creators of GTA.

One could trivially hack any game and change in-game textures to hardcore porn, but that wouldn't warrant an AO rating. No more than MS Paint warrants an AO rating because you could draw nude figures in it. A better example is the Sims, which can be hacked to remove the strategically placed blur effect when a sim showers or uses the restroom.

Moreover, the way the ESRB works is the game publisher sends in clips of the parts of the shipped game that are most offensive. If the publisher doesn't accurately depict their game, it's not the fault of the ESRB. The ESRB doesn't use the software, much less disassemble the software looking for code that could be hacked and cause something "nasty" to appear.

This is a non-issue.

[Joe]

San Andreas rated AO, Take-Two suspends production.

After percolating for weeks, the Hot Coffee controversy has finally boiled over. Today, Take-Two Interactive announced that as the result of an investigation by the Entertainment Software Ratings Board (ESRB), Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas will now bear an AO for Adults Only rating for "Blood and Gore, Intense Violence, Strong Language, Strong Sexual Content, [and] Use of Drugs." Previously, the game was rated M for Mature.

The re-rating comes nearly a month after the first reports surfaced of the so-called "Hot Coffee" mod for the PC version of San Andreas. After being installed, the widely available mod lets users play a bonus sex minigame as a reward for completing the numerous "girlfriend" missions in San Andreas.

After video of the mod was widely circulated, such figures as ardent anti-game activist Jack Thompson and US Senator Hilary Clinton blasted the game. Clinton went as far as to publicly equate violent games with cigarettes and alcohol as a hazard to America's youth. In turn, political heat caused the ESRB to launch the aforementioned investigation, which looked into whether the mod was included in the original game or was made by a third party.

In response, Rockstar Games, the Take-Two subsidiary that develops and publishes San Andreas, issued a carefully worded but heated statement in reference to the PC mod. "So far we have learned that the 'Hot Coffee' modification is the work of a determined group of hackers who have gone to significant trouble to alter scenes in the official version of the game," it read.

However, Rockstar's statement did little to extinguish the fires of controversy. Soon, reports began to surface that the console versions of San Andreas contained code for the sex minigame. Late last week, GameSpot editors unlocked the code from a PlayStation 2 copy of San Andreas bought in October 2004, using an Action Replay Max device and a series of cheat codes. Since console games are written on unalterable DVDs and cheat codes cannot introduce new content, the fact the minigame was playable at all means it was included in the original PS2 San Andreas, albeit hidden.

The AO for Adults Only rating means that, according to the ESRB's official definition, the current version of the game now "should only be played by persons 18 years and older" and "may include prolonged scenes of intense violence and/or graphic sexual content and nudity." This doesn't sound too far off from the ESRB definition for the M for Mature rating, which says games bearing it "have content that may be suitable for persons ages 17 and older. Titles in this category may contain intense violence, blood and gore, sexual content, and/or strong language."

But while they sound similar on paper, the AO and M ratings have one very big difference in real life. Namely, most major chain stores, including the all-important retail behemoth Wal-Mart, will not carry AO-rated games. By contrast, M-rated games aren't even separated from games bearing the T for Teen, E10+ for Everyone 10 and older, and E for Everyone ratings. (Games rated EC for Early Childhood are usually educational in scope and are found in different sections.) [UPDATE 2] It didn't take long for the effects to be felt: Late Thursday, both Target and Best Buy issued press releases they were pulling all versions of San Andreas from shelves, and unconfirmed reports had GameStop following suit.

In its statement, Take-Two outlined its response to the commerce-limiting AO rating. "[Take-Two subsidiary] Rockstar Games has ceased manufacturing of the current version of the title and will begin working on a version of the game with enhanced security to prevent the 'hot coffee' modifications," it read. "This version will retain the original ESRB M-rating and is expected to be available during the Company's fourth fiscal quarter." The quarter in question runs from August to October, 2005. The company will also release a patch for the currently available PC version of the game which will lock out the sex minigames.

Take-Two also braced Wall Street for the financial fallout of the ESRB's decision. Its statement, which was released after markets closed, said the company was lowering guidance for its third fiscal quarter (which ends July 31, 2005) to $160-$170 million in net sales and a net loss per share of $0.40-$0.45. Take-Two also lowered its guidance for the fiscal year (which ends October 31) to $1.26-$1.31 billion in net sales and $1.05-$1.12 in diluted earnings per share. The news hammered Take-Two's stock, which was down $1.82 (6.72 percent) in after-hours trading as of press time.

While not good, today's news was not as bad as it could have been. Most industry watchers had expected a hefty fine from either the ESRB or possibly even the government. Some even speculated that the company would be forced to recall all copies of the game, at a catastrophic expense.

For its part, Take-Two stuck by its contention that the re-rating was "due to unauthorized third party 'Hot Coffee' modification." The publisher reminded the public that "the scenes depicted in the 'Hot Coffee' modification are not playable in the retail version of the game unless the user downloads and/or installs unauthorized software that alters the content of the original retail version of the title, representing a violation of Take-Two and Rockstar's end user license agreement (EULA) and intellectual property rights."

Paul Eibeler, Take-Two's president and chief executive officer, also gave his personal thoughts on the matter in the statement. "We are deeply concerned that the publicity surrounding these unauthorized modifications has caused the game to be misrepresented to the public and has detracted from the creative merits of this award winning product," he said.

"The ESRB's decision to re-rate a game based on an unauthorized third party modification presents a new challenge for parents, the interactive entertainment industry and anyone who distributes or consumes digital content," Eibler continued. "Rockstar Games is pleased that the investigation is now settled and they look forward to returning their focus to making innovative and groundbreaking video games for a mature audience."

[UPDATE 1] An Associated Press story on the rating quoted Take-Two spokesman Jim Ankner as apparently admitting that "there is sex content in the [San Andreas] disc. ... The editing and finalization of any game is a complicated task and it's not uncommon for unused and unfinished content to remain on the disc." However, a Rockstar Games spokesperson flatly told GameSpot that Ankner "was misquoted."

There was no misquoting Patricia Vance, president of the ESRB. In a sternly worded statement on the ESRB site, she said "we have concluded that sexually explicit material exists in a fully rendered, unmodified form on the final discs of all three platform versions of the game (i.e., PC CD-ROM, Xbox, and PS2)." She also had harsh words for Take-Two. "Considering the existence of the undisclosed and highly pertinent content on the final discs, compounded by the broad distribution of the third party modification, the credibility and utility of the initial ESRB rating has been seriously undermined," she said. "Going forward, the ESRB will now require all game publishers to submit any pertinent content shipped in final product even if is not intended to ever be accessed during game play, or remove it from the final disc."

Vance did concur with Rockstar's assertion that the sex minigames were "programmed by Rockstar to be inaccessible to the player and they have stated that it was never intended to be made accessible. The material can only be accessed by downloading a software patch, created by an independent third party without Rockstar's permission, which is now freely available on the Internet and through console accessories." A Rockstar spokesperson said the company was considering legal action against Action Replay, GameShark, and other makers of console cheat devices that allow access to the sex minigames.

[UPDATE 2] Following an investigation, ESRB slaps dreaded rating on controverial best-seller; Take-Two lowers guidance, still blames "unauthorized third party modification"; Best Buy and Target pull game from shelves.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/07/20/ne...ws_6129500.html (http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/07/20/news_6129500.html)

[Doctor Manhattan]

There could be nuclear weapons in the US, and everyone is concerned with a fucking game with characters fucking? That was rated 18+ before?

Fuck off Hilary.

[Glenn]

Originally posted by Dean+Jul 13 2005, 04:21 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Dean @ Jul 13 2005, 04:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Derek@Jul 13 2005, 10:16 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Dean@Jul 13 2005, 04:04 PM
I pity anyone why gets a kick out of watching video game sprites get it on.
But lyk omg, didn't you SOOO download the Nude Raider patch when it was out?!?!?1?!/1//?!/!

LAURA CRAFT IZ SO HAWT.
==

*Ahem*.
That could easily have been an impression of me five years ago.[/b][/quote]
That could easily have been an impression of me five minutes ago.

[Dr. Octagonapus]

All this means to me is that my copy of San Andreas with the "M" rating on the front will be a collector's item one day. :lol:

[Cale.]

this is a sad day.

[Luke/Hellflame]

OPS2 magazine UK could only acknowledge the fact that CJ keeps his clothes on :lol:

[Paul]

Nevermind.

[arT saveS]

DO NOT READ IF YOU ARE A PART OF THE CIA OR THE FBI:

I hope she [Hilary] dies. Though I won't be killing her.


DO NOT READ IF YOU ARE OFFENDED BY CURSING:

The fucking governement needs to get their fucking noses out of our goddamn asses and mind their own fucking business. It's not about our fucking safety, it's about controlling every fucking thing. Goddamn this has sent me over the fucking edge. It's a game. A fucking game. Fucking prudes.

[Shade]

My opinion of the issue is best said by Maddox.

Here (http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=ticket_to_hell)

[User Name]

I read that expecting inescapable amounts of sarcastic ownage only to be let down. He did bring up some good points though.

[paranoid_rebel]

Wow someone's pissed

[Scotty]

You are gazing into the pixels of moral decay.
:lol:

[Mark]

Originally posted by Shade@Jul 23 2005, 07:59 PM
My opinion of the issue is best said by Maddox.

Here (http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=ticket_to_hell)
"this couldn't be the family-friendly carjacking game I thought I knew."

LOL.

[Dedicated]

Originally posted by Shade@Jul 23 2005, 11:29 PM
My opinion of the issue is best said by Maddox.

Here (http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=ticket_to_hell)
:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Shade]

Originally posted by Mark+Jul 24 2005, 08:16 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mark @ Jul 24 2005, 08:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Shade@Jul 23 2005, 07:59 PM
My opinion of the issue is best said by Maddox.

Here (http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=ticket_to_hell)
"this couldn't be the family-friendly carjacking game I thought I knew."

LOL. [/b][/quote]
That was my favorite line too hehe

[Cale.]

Federal Investigation of Rockstar Games

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/07/25/ne...ws_6129723.html (http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/07/25/news_6129723.html)

[Underworld]

They are now doing the same with the sims 2 !

The sex and the nudity are in the game. That's the point. The blur is an admission that even the 'Ken and Barbie' features should not be displayed. The blur can be disarmed. This is no different than what is in San Andreas, although worse. - Jack Thompson

[Cale.]

Originally posted by Underworld@Jul 26 2005, 11:05 AM
They are now doing the same with the sims 2 !

The sex and the nudity are in the game. That's the point. The blur is an admission that even the 'Ken and Barbie' features should not be displayed. The blur can be disarmed. This is no different than what is in San Andreas, although worse. - Jack Thompson
I read about that:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/07/22/ne...ws_6129609.html (http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/07/22/news_6129609.html)

This was my favorite quote:
It's not just the adults that are liberated from their wardrobes. Sims kids can also be nudified, "much to the delight, one can be sure, of pedophiles around the globe who can rehearse, in virtual reality, for their abuse."

Why doesn't he attack something worth looking into, like his failed political career?

[Luke/Hellflame]

The thing about it is is that the government are acting as if nudity and sex are wrong whereas the theme of the game about killing,carjacking and gang warfare are pefectly ok :lol:

Well we'll let them decide whats more sinful,sex and nudity or carjacking and massacre :lol:

[User Name]

That was already posted, Minus. ;)

[Minus Xero]

Originally posted by Cameron@Jul 28 2005, 12:50 PM
That was already posted, Minus. ;)
Hmm? What are you talking about? :whistle: B)

[User Name]

Originally posted by Shade@Jul 23 2005, 03:29 PM
My opinion of the issue is best said by Maddox.

Here (http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=ticket_to_hell)
Here, and don't you give me that look, sonny boy. :lol:

[Minus Xero]

Originally posted by Cameron+Jul 28 2005, 01:58 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Cameron @ Jul 28 2005, 01:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Shade@Jul 23 2005, 03:29 PM
My opinion of the issue is best said by Maddox.

Here (http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=ticket_to_hell)
Here, and don't you give me that look, sonny boy. :lol: [/b][/quote]
Are you saying that I posted that? I was going to but I <s>deleted it</s> decided not to. :whistle:

[amanda_diane]

My brother wanted to buy this game...He won't be buying it if my Mom finds out about any of this, which she probably did.

[Fractured]

i saw it! at this site they have part of the game with it!!!!!!!

[Cale.]

Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas Banned in Australia

Source: Click (http://www.oflc.gov.au/resource.html?resource=544&filename=544.pdf)