Legalization: Marijuana

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What is Marijuana?
Marijuana is the bud and dried leaves of the cannabis sativa plant. It contains over 400 chemicals, but the main chemical is "THC", or delta 9 tetrahydrocannabinol. (No, I didn't look this up, I memorised the name, it's easy. Tetra, then hydro (another type of marijuana) and cannabinol...cannabis...minus the s add a inol.)

A bit of history...
The cultivation of marijuana is dated back to 28 BC according to chinese records. But THC has also been found in Egyptian mummies.

How it works:
When smoking marijuana, smoke containing THC enters the lungs. The lungs absorb the THC and distributes it throughout the body through the bloodstream. THC, within seconds, reaches the brain. The THC replaces a chemical called anandamide, which causes the different effects.

Marijuana users and effects:
Users often say they smoke for relaxation and enlightenment. On occasion you can even hallucinate. A common, closed eye hallucination is the feeling of flying, or being thrown a long distance. When smoked, the body relaxes, and the muscles loosen.

Side effects...
Normal side effects consist of cotton mouth, red eye and short term memory loss.

So here is another topic I think is important. Discuss.

[Weezy]

I think it should be legalized for medical purposes. But I'm sure it'll be abused and.. yeah. :lol:

[Mechanical Christ]

I just watched towelie get high, so yeah.



Has anyone died of an overdose before? I've never heard of weed overdose, only heroin and cocaine and stuff.



[/ignorant]

[arT saveS]

I just did a bit of google-ing, and all of the sites that came up said no. According to them, you would have to consume more than 40,000x the amount of weed it takes to get you high. Which would be impossible because you would black out or faint, unless you had an EXTREMELY, EXTREMELY high tolerance. And I mean extremely.

So no, no one has overdosed on marijuana.

[Neil]

Did you just try pot within the last 2 months? Cause you're all for it now, and keep making topics about it... you crazy stoner you :lol:

[Todd]

I saw an interesting thing on CNN last week:


Currently, the US spends 7.7 billion dollars a year on keeping pot illegal. That pays for the cops, the court hearings, the jailtime, ect. However, the US could make 6 billion dollars by legalizing weed and taxing it the same as cigarettes. Considering the crappy state of the economy, and the fact that weed is no more dangerous than alcohol (probably less dangerous) wouldn't it make sense to legalize it?

[Hundiraev]

Originally posted by Todd@Jun 15 2005, 04:46 PM
I saw an interesting thing on CNN last week:


Currently, the US spends 7.7 billion dollars a year on keeping pot illegal. That pays for the cops, the court hearings, the jailtime, ect. However, the US could make 6 billion dollars by legalizing weed and taxing it the same as cigarettes. Considering the crappy state of the economy, and the fact that weed is no more dangerous than alcohol (probably less dangerous) wouldn't it make sense to legalize it?
drugs fund terrorists, wouldnt legalising it be kind of hypocritical?

[Chris(tmas)]

Its legal in Holland and i dont even notice it.

[Louis]

It should be legalized for Medical Purposes. There are old-aged people out there who need marijuana in order to survive. For the government to deprive these people of their medicine, they are practically killing the patients perscribed to the drug.

You shouldn't be allowed to take it just to relax though (which you aren't). You are practically killing yourself that way and pretty much illegally taking drugs.

[Todd]

Originally posted by Testorz@Jun 15 2005, 12:09 PM
drugs fund terrorists, wouldnt legalising it be kind of hypocritical?
drugs fund some pothead thats sitting in his room stoned listening to grateful dead. not terrorists. good job on believing what the government wants you to believe.

[Glenn]

I think marijuana should be legalized...





















...so I can legally try it. :P
As well as the reasons listed above.

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Originally posted by Neil@Jun 15 2005, 09:00 AM
Did you just try pot within the last 2 months? Cause you're all for it now, and keep making topics about it... you crazy stoner you :lol:
:lol: No, I've smoked weed for 2 years now. But the shrooms I had just tried for my first time about a week before I made the Legalization thread for it. I just think these are important topics, especially to me since the legal status of this affects me.

Todd: I like you, a lot. :lol: I'm glad you posted that tid bit about the governement losing 7.7 billion to try and prevent it, when they could be making almost as much if they would legalize it. I'll have to remember that when I mail my letter to the governor. Oh and I was listening to Tool but the grateful dead are sweet.

[Todd]

Originally posted by fall.into.sleep@Jun 15 2005, 01:22 PM
Todd: I like you, a lot. :lol: I'm glad you posted that tid bit about the governement losing 7.7 billion to try and prevent it, when they could be making almost as much if they would legalize it. I'll have to remember that when I mail my letter to the governor. Oh and I was listening to Tool but the grateful dead are sweet.
:lol:


Don't get me wrong, I would never touch the stuff, legal or not. But I'm opposed to the government banning it as much as I'm opposed to me using it.

[Messy Marj]

Originally posted by Chris@Jun 15 2005, 05:10 PM
Its legal in Holland and i dont even notice it.
Come to my school. On the corner you can smoke it for free. You just have to stand there and you're smoking it too no matter if you want it or not.

[fallenangel]

i could do with the stuff right about now! but alcohol will just have to do... :whistle:

[Hana]

Originally posted by Marj+Jun 15 2005, 07:34 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Marj @ Jun 15 2005, 07:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Chris@Jun 15 2005, 05:10 PM
Its legal in Holland and i dont even notice it.
Come to my school. On the corner you can smoke it for free. You just have to stand there and you're smoking it too no matter if you want it or not. [/b][/quote]
I'm moving to Holland. :o

Back on topic, marijuana should be legalized. I get scared of getting caught sometimes.

[Mark]

Canada's government seems open to legalizing it. They just need to stop bickering with each other and pass some ammendments.

[Leones]

Marijuana smoking makes you dumb. :shifty:

[Suffice]

It causes mental health problems though..

[Neil]

Originally posted by Marj+Jun 15 2005, 01:34 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Marj @ Jun 15 2005, 01:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Chris@Jun 15 2005, 05:10 PM
Its legal in Holland and i dont even notice it.
Come to my school. On the corner you can smoke it for free. You just have to stand there and you're smoking it too no matter if you want it or not. [/b][/quote]
Awesome.

[Paul]

I've been smoking weed for two years and my grades have gotten better. I went from a B & C student to a straight A student. Go figure.

[Melonman64]

Honestly, I believe some of the risks from marijuana are too much for the "desired effect"

1. Cancer is more likely - I already have a pretty high chance of skin cancer, so why make other cancers just as possible?
2. Memory loss - Only short term but... If you can't get memories, then how do you have a long term memory?
3. Unpredictable behavior - Do I want to suddenly find out my friend is dead, and then find the gun in my hand?

[Matt]

Originally posted by Chris@Jun 15 2005, 09:10 AM
Its legal in Holland and i dont even notice it.
Isn't it also legal to drink at like 14 over there, too? I have a friend who's moving to Holland, and she's told me all kinds of stuff like that is legal.


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[Shinoda_baby]

i think its stupid

[Todd]

Originally posted by Shinoda_baby@Jun 16 2005, 10:50 PM
i think its stupid
Thank you for adding something worthwhile to the discussion

[arT saveS]

Well, do you want to know the craziest shit? I've smoked weed for 2 years. Every experience was fucking great. Never had a problem. I've seen a lot of people have some weird trips on weed. Maybe they would stare off the whole time, or rock back and forth. I always thought they we're crazy. Well, I had a bad trip. A bad. bad. trip. I don't know how many people on these board smoke, or if any of you have had a bad trip. But I had one. Last night...let me explain what happened.

Me and a few friends get high. It started out good, I felt fine. We was smoking out of a pipe with a carb, I was stoned as hell. The sense of relaxation swept across me and it was all good. We went to my other friends house, where I was spending the night, and the relaxation was suddenly gone. I felt extrememly uneasy. This was around oh maybe 5 or 6. We bought an 8th and started smoking until 4 in the morning. We went to bed and woke up around 1. We smoked the rest and all hell broke loose on me. I have never experienced what I experienced yesterday afternoon. The temporary memory lapse that usually happens, minor like about something you was talking about earlier and you forgot what it was evolved into a complete loss of memory. I don't know what happened. My heart sped up and and I tried to grasp reality and understand what was happening to me and calm myself down. But it was no use. I couldn't remember where I lived, what my house looked like, nothing. I don't know how much we smoked, but I do know I smoked more than ever before. I've never been that high and I just couldn't handle it. It happens. But you will never understand the terror of complete loss of memory. I told my friends, and they told me too just calm down, but it wasn't possible. I couldn't remember anything. They started saying stuff, asking me questions, describing stuff like what my house looked like, anything to get me to remember something, and I finally I came down enough to remember stuff. I walked home, a nice mile from my house which sobered me up a bit more and then took a shower, but I'm still high, and it's 1:32 in the morning, and I haven't smoked since 2 in the afternoon.

Anyways, let me get something across. I have never been that high, and I never want to be again.

[Holiday]

Originally posted by Todd+Jun 16 2005, 10:31 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Todd @ Jun 16 2005, 10:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Shinoda_baby@Jun 16 2005, 10:50 PM
i think its stupid
Thank you for adding something worthwhile to the discussion [/b][/quote]
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well pot is a fellony here in NV. It's rediculous!!!! i mean, pot is NOT that big of a deal! here you can brutally beat your wife and get less time in jail then if you're caught while under the influence or w/ any on you. i hate Nevada sometimes......all of the time, actually <_<

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People say not to legalize marijuana because it funds the terrorists (this isn't directly to who said that in an above post). Well what the fuck? Ban cigarettes too, they fund the companies who make the cigarettes. Are those companies any better than terrorists are? Think about it.

Also, let me clear something else up. Cigarettes have thousands of chemicals, that even just one of them by themselves could cause death. I did some more researching, oh and here's a short little list of some of the ingredients in cigarettes...

Butane (lighter fluid), methane (sewer gas), nicotine (insecticide, like Raid), hydrogen cyanide (gas chamber poison), arsenic (the most deadly poison to man), stearic acid (candie wax) ammonia (toilet cleaner), formaldehyde (used to preserve dead bodies), acetone (paint stopper), aceatic acid (vinegar), carbon monoxide, methanol (rocket fuel), hexamine (barbecue lighter fluid), and of course cadmium (also known as battery fluid.)

Wow, the legal version of meth. Looks pretty damn tasty to me.

[Leones]

Originally posted by Paul@Jun 17 2005, 02:47 AM
I've been smoking weed for two years and my grades have gotten better. I went from a B & C student to a straight A student. Go figure.
Yeah I actually heard that smoking one joint a day makes you brighter.

... As long as someone isn't stoned the entire day, because I don't think that makes you very bright.


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Buying alcohol in stores in Holland is allowed when you are 16 years old, same as in cafés, clubs, etc. But if you're not 16 yet it's easy to get to alcohol, just ask your friend who can get to it. But that's everywhere, not only Holland.

[Muri]

Originally posted by Leones+Jun 17 2005, 09:36 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Leones @ Jun 17 2005, 09:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Paul@Jun 17 2005, 02:47 AM
I've been smoking weed for two years and my grades have gotten better. I went from a B & C student to a straight A student. Go figure.
Yeah I actually heard that smoking one joint a day makes you brighter.

... As long as someone isn't stoned the entire day, because I don't think that makes you very bright.


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Buying alcohol in stores in Holland is allowed when you are 16 years old, same as in cafés, clubs, etc. But if you're not 16 yet it's easy to get to alcohol, just ask your friend who can get to it. But that's everywhere, not only Holland. [/b][/quote]
Man. Really? Woah. :mellow:


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Anyway,it's not everywhere. Like in here,you can't get alcohol if you're 16. You have to "wait until you're grown-up,as in 18". The same goes with cigarettes too.

[D_A_V_I_D]

Although i am aposed to the use of marijuana and would never use it myself. Most likely for this reason.
Unpredictable behavior - Do I want to suddenly find out my friend is dead, and then find the gun in my hand?
But if governments have legalised cigarettes then weed is no worse. I think it would almost be better to stop cigarettes and replace them with weed. As fall into sleep stated. Cigarettes have a shitload of damn poisonous chemicals. So really to legalise one and not the other is pretty hypocritical, especially (in my eyes) when you are legalising the more harmful one.
What i believe stops it from being legal is the more powerful immediate effects. I mean it makes you confused and less alert. which in turn will make you more prone to accidents etc.

So really when cigarettes were legalised the immediate effects were not that bad, people wern't so aware of long term effects which we now know are vey damaging. While with marijuana the effects that can result in the person being injured due to the lack of awareness and the short term merory loss is apparent.
So now if governments want to ban cigarettes and make there stance on drugs alot firmer it is going to take a shitload of work and a shitload of money which no one is willing to have anything to do with. Therefore we have cigarettes legal, and all these other drugs (which in the long run are probly less harmfull) banned.

[Link04]

I am, most basically, completely for the voluntary choice of an individual, as long as it's not inhibiting anyone elses inherant rights. Though the logic of drugs such as marijuana is self mutilating, it's an individuals right to control what's put in their body, in their long, intrinsic, life long quest of making themselves happy. If that harms said individual, that's unfortunate, but everyone able to make the choice, adults, are also able, with the knowledge and education present, to forsee the reprocussions of their actions. The fact that a government is involved in a case like this is unnerving.

[erasethepain]

Unpredictable behavior - Do I want to suddenly find out my friend is dead, and then find the gun in my hand?

It doesn't impair your judgement like alchohol does. Even at that, I don't see too many drunks blowing another human beings head off. Once you've smoked Marijuana for awhile, you get the hang of things and can practically act sober.

IMO, We should either legalize Marijuana or illegalize Alchohol. People are too misinformed about the drug.

[cooljelly]

I'm not sure what I think anymore. I wouldn't touch the stuff cuz I already a bit loopy up there anway, don't need to go even more crazy. lol.

But I think everyone has the right to do what they want to themselves. But then again, the effects of takin dope cud mean u freak out and kill sum1 cuz of the paranoia. So even if u don't intend 2 harm any1 u cud end up doin sumthin stupid!

[Testament]

Originally posted by fall.into.sleep@Jun 17 2005, 03:30 AM
Also, let me clear something else up. Cigarettes have thousands of chemicals, that even just one of them by themselves could cause death. I did some more researching, oh and here's a short little list of some of the ingredients in cigarettes...

Butane (lighter fluid), methane (sewer gas), nicotine (insecticide, like Raid), hydrogen cyanide (gas chamber poison), arsenic (the most deadly poison to man), stearic acid (candie wax) ammonia (toilet cleaner), formaldehyde (used to preserve dead bodies), acetone (paint stopper), aceatic acid (vinegar), carbon monoxide, methanol (rocket fuel), hexamine (barbecue lighter fluid), and of course cadmium (also known as battery fluid.)


Holy fuck.


I'm for legalization. I used to smoke weed, then I broke the habit.

[fallenangel]

i am for legalisation but i think that it should be controlled up to a point. like we have pubs for drinking in, we should have the same idea for marijuana.

[Geki]

I would never smoke Marijuana, but I think it should be legal since Cigarettes kill more people a year then Marijuana does. Especially with sick patients, they may need it and if they're going to die, what the hell does it matter anyways?

[arT saveS]

This is how it should be: It's legal to sell and posses and be under the influence; privately and publicly. If someone is high, and they are doing something wrong, like spray painting a car or harrassing an old man (unless he tried to run you over with a mower), arrest them, I don't fucking care. Don't take away the experience from everyone else because there is such a thing as morons.

And also, those who say "I would never smoke marijuana", could you explain why? I mean it's understandable if you just don't want to do it, that's fine. But I hate it when people say it because they are misinformed about pot and think they will smoke it and die. (Although during my bad trip a few days ago, I thought I was going insane and I'd never return to normality.)

[Glenn]

I am for legalizing marijuana and illegalizing cigarettes.

[Link04]

Originally posted by fall.into.sleep@Jun 21 2005, 05:07 AM
And also, those who say "I would never smoke marijuana", could you explain why? I mean it's understandable if you just don't want to do it, that's fine. But I hate it when people say it because they are misinformed about pot and think they will smoke it and die. (Although during my bad trip a few days ago, I thought I was going insane and I'd never return to normality.)
Because I think it's stupid to alter/hinder my senses. I'm a sentious being, and without them, I'm not myself, or at least...I'm not running on full efficiency. Anyone who wants to do whatever to themselves can, but because it alters my perception, I would never do it.

[arT saveS]

Originally posted by Link04+Jun 21 2005, 11:27 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Link04 @ Jun 21 2005, 11:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--fall.into.sleep@Jun 21 2005, 05:07 AM
And also, those who say "I would never smoke marijuana", could you explain why?* I mean it's understandable if you just don't want to do it, that's fine.* But I hate it when people say it because they are misinformed about pot and think they will smoke it and die. (Although during my bad trip a few days ago, I thought I was going insane and I'd never return to normality.)
Because I think it's stupid to alter/hinder my senses. I'm a sentious being, and without them, I'm not myself, or at least...I'm not running on full efficiency. Anyone who wants to do whatever to themselves can, but because it alters my perception, I would never do it. [/b][/quote]
Fair enough. But to something straight. No drug does the same thing to anyone. Everyone's high on any drug is different from any other persons. Cannabis is capable of hindering ones ability, and their senses. But it is also capable of enhancing ones abilities and their senses.

[Holiday]

Originally posted by Glenn@Jun 20 2005, 10:38 PM
I am for legalizing marijuana and illegalizing cigarettes.
haha hell yeah! i totally agree.

[Matt]

Originally posted by Geki@Jun 20 2005, 07:56 PM
I would never smoke Marijuana, but I think it should be legal since Cigarettes kill more people a year then Marijuana does. Especially with sick patients, they may need it and if they're going to die, what the hell does it matter anyways?
Doctors used to give heroin to terminally ill patients, and heroin, from what I know, is worse than weed, so why not?

[Minus Xero]

Originally posted by Geki@Jun 20 2005, 09:56 PM
I would never smoke Marijuana, but I think it should be legal since Cigarettes kill more people a year then Marijuana does. Especially with sick patients, they may need it and if they're going to die, what the hell does it matter anyways?
You know that there's a loophole in your argument, right?

The reason that cigarettes kill more is because they are legal. Hmm. What a concept.

[arT saveS]

Originally posted by Minus Xero+Jun 22 2005, 10:51 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Minus Xero @ Jun 22 2005, 10:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Geki@Jun 20 2005, 09:56 PM
I would never smoke Marijuana, but I think it should be legal since Cigarettes kill more people a year then Marijuana does. Especially with sick patients, they may need it and if they're going to die, what the hell does it matter anyways?
You know that there's a loophole in your argument, right?

The reason that cigarettes kill more is because they are legal. Hmm. What a concept. [/b][/quote]
You know there's a loophole in your argument also, right?

No one has ever died from cannabis. You think that if marijuana was legalized, suddenly thousands would die every year from it? Oh yeah, that makes sense.

[Justin]

Shit. I accidently double-posted. I noticed a spelling mistake and pressed stop after I sent the message.

[Justin]

Marijuana seriously inhibits your responses. Smoking marijuana before driving is really dangerous. So is drinking and driving, but alchohol companies are huge corporations and have a lot of influence on laws that are passed in many countries. Banning alchohol would have a huge impact on the economy; during Prohibition in the US, organized crime syndicates sprung up to smuggle illegally produced alchohol.

Same with cigarette/tobacco companies. If you've watched 'Fahrenheit 911', you'll probably remember the part when Michael Moore talked about tobacco/cigarette companies influencing the Senate to the point where airline passengers were allowed to bring up to 4 butane lighters on board so they can smoke as soon as the plane lands. Even after the Richard Reid (The 'Shoe-bomber') fiasco. Fucking. Stupid. I think they've changed that law though now.

[arT saveS]

Originally posted by Justin@Jun 23 2005, 01:45 AM
Marijuana can seriously impair you ability to react to stuff. Driving after smoking pot can kill.
Truth is, yes weed can impair your judgement and reaction time, but when driving high, most are aware of the impaired motor skills, and compensate with driving more carefully by paying more attention than they normally would sober. I've driven many times after and during a high, I'm still alive. And once again, marijuana can also seriously enhance all of your abilities. It all depends on the person. Sometimes when I'm high I can do things better, like play my bass better just because my body is more in tune with the bass, write poems (I can think about a subject deeply), and drive better. But depending on the experience that I'm having, I could also not be coordinated enough to play my bass or concentrate long enough to write a poem. Smart, experienced smokers know whether they can drive or not. It's the same with driving sober, some people are just stupid and careless drivers, should driving be illegal for everyone just because there are stupid and careless people?

[Justin]

I added more points to my previous post, so please read that.

Smart, experienced smokers know whether they can drive or not. It's the same with driving sober, some people are just stupid and careless drivers, should driving be illegal for everyone just because there are stupid and careless people?

No, but if Marijuana is legalized, more people would be tempted to try it; many would probably not be as educated about the dangers of smoking Marijuana like you are. Many would probably do stupid things because their brain is so inebriated to the point where they can't realize that they can't think straight.

IF marijuana is legalized, the government has to install a nationwide marijuana education campaign.

[arT saveS]

Originally posted by Justin@Jun 23 2005, 02:00 AM
I added more points to my previous post, so please read that.

Smart, experienced smokers know whether they can drive or not. It's the same with driving sober, some people are just stupid and careless drivers, should driving be illegal for everyone just because there are stupid and careless people?

No, but if Marijuana is legalized, more people would be tempted to try it; many would probably not be as educated about the dangers of smoking Marijuana like you are. Many would probably do stupid things because their brain is so inebriated to the point where they can't realize that they can't think straight.

IF marijuana is legalized, the government has to install a nationwide marijuana education campaign.
I posted earlier and then saw the long post you had, I was like whoa it grew. :lol:

Back on topic. I agree that there would be ignorance, and I would be all for the education program. I like what you said about a person being so intoxicated that they wouldn't even realize that they couldn't realize. :lol: And it's true, there would be people like that. And so once again I would be fine with the education program as long as it wasn't forced. I haven't learned all of what I know about marijuana from an education program. And if people decide to be stupid while they are high, arrest them.

[Justin]

Originally posted by fall.into.sleep+Jun 23 2005, 03:08 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (fall.into.sleep @ Jun 23 2005, 03:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Justin@Jun 23 2005, 02:00 AM
I added more points to my previous post, so please read that.

Smart, experienced smokers know whether they can drive or not. It's the same with driving sober, some people are just stupid and careless drivers, should driving be illegal for everyone just because there are stupid and careless people?

No, but if Marijuana is legalized, more people would be tempted to try it; many would probably not be as educated about the dangers of smoking Marijuana like you are. Many would probably do stupid things because their brain is so inebriated to the point where they can't realize that they can't think straight.

IF marijuana is legalized, the government has to install a nationwide marijuana education campaign.
I posted earlier and then saw the long post you had, I was like whoa it grew. :lol:

Back on topic. I agree that there would be ignorance, and I would be all for the education program. I like what you said about a person being so intoxicated that they wouldn't even realize that they couldn't realize. :lol: And it's true, there would be people like that. And so once again I would be fine with the education program as long as it wasn't forced. I haven't learned all of what I know about marijuana from an education program. And if people decide to be stupid while they are high, arrest them. [/b][/quote]
I think that if Marijuana is legalized, the government should force everybody to learn about the dangers.
Yeah but if Marijuana was legalized, why wouldn't the Policemen smoke pot too?

o'Dweeds, mon. Tastes like the Chronic. :lol:
Chronic Candy (http://www.thehempjoint.com/HempfieldCandyCoRetailOulet.htm)
Try Chronic Candy. For all of you health freaks, they have sugarless ones too. Damn, they think of everything.

[arT saveS]

Originally posted by Justin+Jun 23 2005, 05:21 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Justin @ Jun 23 2005, 05:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by -fall.into.sleep@Jun 23 2005, 03:08 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Justin@Jun 23 2005, 02:00 AM
I added more points to my previous post, so please read that.

Smart, experienced smokers know whether they can drive or not. It's the same with driving sober, some people are just stupid and careless drivers, should driving be illegal for everyone just because there are stupid and careless people?

No, but if Marijuana is legalized, more people would be tempted to try it; many would probably not be as educated about the dangers of smoking Marijuana like you are. Many would probably do stupid things because their brain is so inebriated to the point where they can't realize that they can't think straight.

IF marijuana is legalized, the government has to install a nationwide marijuana education campaign.
I posted earlier and then saw the long post you had, I was like whoa it grew. :lol:

Back on topic. I agree that there would be ignorance, and I would be all for the education program. I like what you said about a person being so intoxicated that they wouldn't even realize that they couldn't realize. :lol: And it's true, there would be people like that. And so once again I would be fine with the education program as long as it wasn't forced. I haven't learned all of what I know about marijuana from an education program. And if people decide to be stupid while they are high, arrest them.
I think that if Marijuana is legalized, the government should force everybody to learn about the dangers.
Yeah but if Marijuana was legalized, why wouldn't the Policemen smoke pot too?

o'Dweeds, mon. Tastes like the Chronic. :lol:
Chronic Candy (http://www.thehempjoint.com/HempfieldCandyCoRetailOulet.htm)
Try Chronic Candy. For all of you health freaks, they have sugarless ones too. Damn, they think of everything. [/b][/quote]
I don't believe the governement should force the education because I don't believe the governement should force. This is supposed to be a free country.

[Justin]

Yeah, but if the government didn't force the education, who would actually sign up? If marijuana education was optional, most of the people who would try marijuana would be like 'fuck it' and skip class. I'm not talking about some trivial issue, because this is a matter of protecting lives.

[arT saveS]

It doesn't matter if people would sign up. It should be a choice, "free country." Forcing shouldn't be a part of the "free country."

[D_A_V_I_D]

Originally posted by fall.into.sleep@Jun 25 2005, 02:55 PM
It doesn't matter if people would sign up. It should be a choice, "free country." Forcing shouldn't be a part of the "free country."
But you have to rember, the majority of the world is made up of stupid people. That is the reason for laws. They're for the idiots of the world. I think marijuana education should be forced. Cause as Justin said. No one would go!

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Originally posted by D_A_V_I_D+Jun 24 2005, 10:02 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (D_A_V_I_D @ Jun 24 2005, 10:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--fall.into.sleep@Jun 25 2005, 02:55 PM
It doesn't matter if people would sign up. It should be a choice, "free country." Forcing shouldn't be a part of the "free country."
But you have to rember, the majority of the United States is made up of stupid people. That is the reason for laws. They're for the idiots of the world. I think marijuana education should be forced. Cause as Justin said. No one would go! [/b][/quote]
Fixed it for ya. But seriously, how many stories of people doing stupid things outside of the US do you hear about? Not a whole lot. I don't know what it is about your country, but it seems to be a center for stupid.

[Ryan]

Sweet argument you guys got going here. Just to clear up what Mark said, the Canadian government isn't trying to legalize it here in Canada they are just trying to decriminalize it. Meaning that you would just get a fine if you were caught and thats it, basically just like getting caught for speeding.

But I mean all the people against legalizing it, cigarettes and alcohol have even worse effects than pot. All this would do is just create more open dope smokers. I thin its alright to legalize it as long as it is controlled properly by the government, ie, making it a felony to drive while being upder the influence of it and that sort of stuff. I guess the only thing that would bother me about the legalization of it is that i absolutley hate the smell of the shit so i wouldn't care to have a guy next to me in the bar smoking it. But i mean Edmonton is gonna be smoke free come July first so i guess i wouldn't ahve to worry about that afterall.

[Glenn]

I don't think they should enforce marijuana education at all. It will remind people...oh yeah, I should try some marijuana.

[Justin]

Originally posted by Cameron+Jun 25 2005, 02:54 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Cameron @ Jun 25 2005, 02:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--D_A_V_I_D@Jun 24 2005, 10:02 PM
But you have to rember, the majority of the United States is made up of stupid people. That is the reason for laws. They're for the idiots of the world. I think marijuana education should be forced. Cause as Justin said. No one would go!
Fixed it for ya. But seriously, how many stories of people doing stupid things outside of the US do you hear about? Not a whole lot. I don't know what it is about your country, but it seems to be a center for stupid. [/b][/quote]
:lol: What about Canadian border officials letting a man with a bloody chainsaw and a shitload of other weapons across the border?

Anyone remember what (former) Canadian PM Jean Chretian (Or however you spell it) said about the legalization of Marijuana?
"If this law is passed I'll have the legislature in one hand and a joint in the other"

Canada is one of the more liberal countries of the world. I believe same sex marriage is legal in all the provinces except Alberta; Canadians were one of the first nations to do that (The first were the Netherlands). Vancouver, BC has set up a program to supply free heroin to addicts; they'll probably try to slowly wean them off of it. Giving heroin away will decrease the crime rate because the gangs won't have as much power and addicts won't have to resort to crime and prostitution to get their fix.

That's why I'm moving back to Vancouver. :lol:







Seriously

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Originally posted by Justin@Jun 25 2005, 07:35 PM
:lol: What about Canadian border officials letting a man with a bloody chainsaw and a shitload of other weapons across the border?
Like I said, not a whole lot of stupid stories happening outside the US. :lol:

[Ryan]

Originally posted by Cameron+Jun 25 2005, 10:11 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Cameron @ Jun 25 2005, 10:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Justin@Jun 25 2005, 07:35 PM
:lol: What about Canadian border officials letting a man with a bloody chainsaw and a shitload of other weapons across the border?
Like I said, not a whole lot of stupid stories happening outside the US. :lol: [/b][/quote]
You gotta remember if that man was going into the US it wouldn't be Canadian border officials. It would be US officials manning the border if the inflow is to the US. If the guy was coming into Canada then yah, it would have been Canadian officials. So technically thats still the americans fault.

[Justin]

Originally posted by Ryan+Jun 26 2005, 03:09 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Ryan @ Jun 26 2005, 03:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by -Cameron@Jun 25 2005, 10:11 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Justin@Jun 25 2005, 07:35 PM
:lol: What about Canadian border officials letting a man with a bloody chainsaw and a shitload of other weapons across the border?
Like I said, not a whole lot of stupid stories happening outside the US. :lol:
You gotta remember if that man was going into the US it wouldn't be Canadian border officials. It would be US officials manning the border if the inflow is to the US. If the guy was coming into Canada then yah, it would have been Canadian officials. So technically thats still the americans fault. [/b][/quote]
Duh. I'm such a dumbass. Being Canadian, I guess that counts against us. :lol: