Michael Jackson Not Guilty. [Archive]

Louis

06-13-2005, 10:21 PM

Originally posted by Casey@Jun 13 2005, 09:18 PM
He is most certainly not innocent. It's just another case of celebrities getting off with serious crimes because of their name and wealth.

I hate America sometimes, I really do.
That is usually the case, but a lot of people were against Michael Jackson. I think this was truly a case of whether he really did commit the crimes he was charged of or not.

I actually thought that they were going to find him guilty. I'm surprised, but I'm glad.

Mr. Benzedrine

06-13-2005, 10:23 PM

Originally posted by Casey@Jun 13 2005, 09:20 PM
He slept with kids in his bed. That's not normal. I know Joe Jackson wasn't the best father and probably caused Michael to go through problems, but you can't use that as an excuse all the time.
I don't think sleeping with kids in your bed (as long as you dont do anything sexually) is wrong. And it doesnt really count as a serious crime if thats the case, But thats my opinion..

F-ck Casey

06-13-2005, 10:24 PM

So if I was 40 years old and you had kids and you didn't know me at all, you would let me sleep in the same bed as your children?

k.

Mr. Benzedrine

06-13-2005, 10:25 PM

Originally posted by Casey@Jun 13 2005, 09:24 PM
So if I was 40 years old and you had kids and you didn't know me at all, you would let me sleep in the same bed as your children?

k.
Well its a different case for Micheal Jackson because, Lets face it, Everyone knows who he is.

But no i wouldnt let my kids sleep with you, But its a very different case if it's Micheal Jackson, Can you see where im coming from here?.

F-ck Casey

06-13-2005, 10:26 PM

So you'd let your kids sleep with a stranger. Not me, but Michael Jackson. Just because of who he is?

Louis

06-13-2005, 10:30 PM

Can't we just stop? Michael Jackson is innocent. Some people are happy, some people are mad. GET OVER IT.

Mr. Benzedrine

06-13-2005, 10:30 PM

Not just because he is Micheal Jackson. But because you would think of him to be trustworthy etc, Obviously after the Jordy Chandler case you would think the parents wouldn't have let the other boy stay at Micheals house, But if he is found to be not guilty, I honestly think he hasn't done anything wrong, Maybe you don't, but i do.

F-ck Casey

06-13-2005, 10:31 PM

He's been brought to court twice on charges that are basically the same. I wouldn't trust Michael Jackson with anyone's kids, much less my own.

Mr. Benzedrine

06-13-2005, 10:34 PM

Originally posted by Casey@Jun 13 2005, 09:31 PM
He's been brought to court twice on charges that are basically the same. I wouldn't trust Michael Jackson with anyone's kids, much less my own.
Well thats your opinion and i respect it.

But my theory is that because he's been brought to court on these charges before, And some people have got millions of dollars out of him. I wouldnt be surprised if the parents of that Gavin boy just made him stay at Micheals house then made up these stories to try and get money out of him. Like Derek said in RT. The mother had a history of lying in court....or something like that.

Andrea

06-13-2005, 10:46 PM

I'm gonna move this topic to Serious Chat so there won't be another MJ thread made.

Aaron

06-13-2005, 11:06 PM

He probably had two kids in his truck waiting to drink "Jesus Juice" and "Jesus Blood" with him.

Eh, I really don't care if he's guilty or not. Doesn't affect my life in any way shape or form.

I still don't like the idea he makes his children cover their faces when they go out to public. That's just fucked all together.

Todd

06-13-2005, 11:21 PM

FUCKING BULLSHIT

Mark

06-13-2005, 11:23 PM

I saw this coming from a mile away.

Ander

06-13-2005, 11:28 PM

Actually, I'm shocked. Happy, but shocked.

Todd

06-13-2005, 11:35 PM

Originally posted by Ander@Jun 13 2005, 05:28 PM
Actually, I'm shocked. Happy, but shocked.
You're happy that a child molester is back out on the streets and pretty much has permission from the legal system to touch little kids again?

Friskey™

06-13-2005, 11:37 PM

Boy was I ever so pissed at this...we all wanted to see was Jackson in handcuffs being someone's little bitch.

FUCK.

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Mr. Benzedrine

06-13-2005, 11:45 PM

Originally posted by Todd+Jun 13 2005, 10:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Todd @ Jun 13 2005, 10:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Ander@Jun 13 2005, 05:28 PM
Actually, I'm shocked. Happy, but shocked.
You're happy that a child molester is back out on the streets and pretty much has permission from the legal system to touch little kids again? [/b][/quote]
As i've said before, How can you be 100% sure that he is guilty?.

.Amanda.

06-14-2005, 12:01 AM

I believe that he's guilty as sin. Unfortunately, I also believe that the jury made the right call. The evidence sucked.

Ander

06-14-2005, 12:18 AM

Originally posted by Todd+Jun 13 2005, 02:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Todd @ Jun 13 2005, 02:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Ander@Jun 13 2005, 05:28 PM
Actually, I'm shocked. Happy, but shocked.
You're happy that a child molester is back out on the streets and pretty much has permission from the legal system to touch little kids again? [/b][/quote]
Todd, my mouth isn't big enough for all the bullshit you're trying to stuff in it. Not everything is as black and white as you may make it out to be.

Mr. Benzedrine

06-14-2005, 12:19 AM

Originally posted by Ander+Jun 13 2005, 11:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Ander @ Jun 13 2005, 11:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -Todd@Jun 13 2005, 02:35 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Ander@Jun 13 2005, 05:28 PM
Actually, I'm shocked. Happy, but shocked.
You're happy that a child molester is back out on the streets and pretty much has permission from the legal system to touch little kids again?
Todd, my mouth isn't big enough for all the bullshit you're trying to stuff in it. Not everything is as black and white as you may make it out to be. [/b][/quote]
I agree with that statement.

And i would like an answer to my question.

How can you be 100% sure that he is guilty?.

Todd

06-14-2005, 12:33 AM

Originally posted by Lostprophet+Jun 13 2005, 05:45 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Lostprophet @ Jun 13 2005, 05:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -Todd@Jun 13 2005, 10:35 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Ander@Jun 13 2005, 05:28 PM
Actually, I'm shocked. Happy, but shocked.
You're happy that a child molester is back out on the streets and pretty much has permission from the legal system to touch little kids again?
As i've said before, How can you be 100% sure that he is guilty?. [/b][/quote]
The kid was able to accuratley describe the tattoo on MJ's penis, that explains enough right there. Not to mention a 10 year old could not make up such an elaborate lie

F-ck Casey

06-14-2005, 12:35 AM

It was a birthmark.

Todd

06-14-2005, 12:37 AM

Originally posted by Casey@Jun 13 2005, 06:35 PM
It was a birthmark.
Tattoo, birthmark, whatever. Either way, a kid should not be able to accuratley describe unique markings on someone else's privates.

F-ck Casey

06-14-2005, 12:38 AM

I agree, I just wanted to correct you.

Joe

06-14-2005, 12:59 AM

Personally, i think there has to be some truth behind what has been brought up over the years, i mean it's happened more than once for crying out loud, surely there was some truth behind it.

What i think happened is, MJ sexually molested a kid to begin with and when it was brought up for the first time, parents started cashing in on the allegations by saying it happened to their kids too.

... but whatever, that's just what i think. He may be innocent, but i can't see it.

I Don't Need No Accuser

06-14-2005, 01:13 AM

Originally posted by Todd+Jun 13 2005, 11:37 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Todd @ Jun 13 2005, 11:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Casey@Jun 13 2005, 06:35 PM
It was a birthmark.
Tattoo, birthmark, whatever. Either way, a kid should not be able to accuratley describe unique markings on someone else's privates. [/b][/quote]
Well, didn't they take photographs of his penis? Maybe the police showed the kid the picture ahead of time so he could accurately describe it in court. Farfetched I know, but that's how I feel about what you're saying.

Taking MJ to court a second time on the same exact charges is the perfect time to do it. He's just very weird. IMO the fact that that first family took the money the first time shows you that nothing really happened (or it just shows you how fucked up the family is). Instead of getting a guy who molested my son to suffer for what he did, let me just take all the money he offered to me. Would you take money instead of sending your childs molester to jail to get a little taste of karma?

Mushroom Cloud

06-14-2005, 01:23 AM

the thing is....I didnt want Micheal to go to jail or into solitary imprisonment....I wanted the guy to get help.....but when people look at him hanging kids off a balcony, parading his children in mask.....and sleeping with OTHER peoples children and then say he is not guilty....they are pretty much saying what he does is ok. The fact of the matter is....Micheal is not ok....he is mentally ill....he needs to see a professional. And until people get a reality check and realize that there is something wrong with Micheal.....he will continue to do these bizaar things until he poses a threat to himself or someone else.

I find it quite amazing that out of 10 charges....he wasnt found guilty for even one.

Paul

06-14-2005, 05:11 AM

That's fucked up.

This pissed me off. Really, it does. I want to see that man behind bars. Fucking weirdo.

Chris(tmas)

06-14-2005, 05:23 AM

Actually, this is the first time he's in court. He payed 70 million dollars to drop the case a the first time.

Im sad, but not shocked. I knew he would be found innocent, but if I was the judge I would find him guilty. He has serious problems.

Dr. Octogonapus

06-14-2005, 07:19 AM

Originally posted by Todd+Jun 13 2005, 07:33 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Todd @ Jun 13 2005, 07:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Todd@Jun 13 2005, 10:35 PM

Not to mention a 10 year old could not make up such an elaborate lie [/b][/quote]
I have a 10 year old brother who can talk for an hour straight telling stories about stuff he's done that are complete bullshit. Believe me, 10 year olds can lie.

In any case, I wanted to see MJ locked up. I don't know if he was guilty or not, nor do I care much, I'm just sick of seeing him, period. He's a disgrace to the human race.

1200techniques

06-14-2005, 08:17 AM

lol he is weird but it isnt illegal to be weird
about the actual charges of child molestation i dont know...why would they leave their kid there when they know he's been accused of
child molestation before?

Taking MJ to court a second time on the same exact charges is the perfect time to do it. He's just very weird. IMO the fact that that first family took the money the first time shows you that nothing really happened (or it just shows you how fucked up the family is). Instead of getting a guy who molested my son to suffer for what he did, let me just take all the money he offered to me. Would you take money instead of sending your childs molester to jail to get a little taste of karma?
I was pissed off that the family took money, has ruined the chances of any genuine victims, if there are any

Neil

06-14-2005, 03:54 PM

Nobody can know what really happened. MJ is a little weird, and the accuser has a history of lying. It can go either way. I personally thing MJ is a 40 year old child, and he didn't do it.

Muri

06-14-2005, 03:59 PM

Well this kinda figures.

I agree with Neil though.

Tom

06-14-2005, 04:10 PM

well i have to say i think people make up stories up just to get money or get in the papers . I'm not a fan of michael jackson but when i saw the trial via. tv i didnt see one pice of evidence against him.....it .

Dedicated

06-14-2005, 06:06 PM

I could see it happening aswell. The thing is, he should go to a mental health clinic or something... I mean, didn't he admit to sleeping with children? Now, I know that he didn't mean he had sex with them but if he thinks it's the most natural thing in the world to sleep in the same bed as kids, there's gotta be a problem somewhere.

Chris.

06-14-2005, 06:47 PM

Originally posted by Neil@Jun 14 2005, 10:54 AM
Nobody can know what really happened. MJ is a little weird, and the accuser has a history of lying. It can go either way. I personally thing MJ is a 40 year old child, and he didn't do it.
Agreed.

Gluez

06-14-2005, 06:53 PM

Originally posted by Dedicated@Jun 14 2005, 05:06 PM
I could see it happening aswell. The thing is, he should go to a mental health clinic or something... I mean, didn't he admit to sleeping with children? Now, I know that he didn't mean he had sex with them but if he thinks it's the most natural thing in the world to sleep in the same bed as kids, there's gotta be a problem somewhere.
I agreed with you. If I have a son about the accuser age, I probably call him to sleep on his own bed.

Messy Marj

06-14-2005, 07:52 PM

I just think he thinks he's Peter Pan or something. He just doesn't see it isn't right to sleep with little boys on his age.
I think he is innocent though.

JohnnyB

06-14-2005, 07:54 PM

I knew he'd get off.

savetomorrow

06-14-2005, 08:06 PM

He would have been guilty no matter what. He was proven innocent yet in the public eye he's still guilty. There have been too many media spots that he's been featured on such as jokes, South Park, etc. to make him innocent in the public eye.

Personally I thought he was guilty but really the defense was so screwed up I guess the jurors had to reach a verdict of innocent.

Louis

06-14-2005, 08:18 PM

Originally posted by Todd+Jun 13 2005, 10:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Todd @ Jun 13 2005, 10:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Ander@Jun 13 2005, 05:28 PM
Actually, I'm shocked. Happy, but shocked.
You're happy that a child molester is back out on the streets and pretty much has permission from the legal system to touch little kids again? [/b][/quote]
He's ending sleepovers in his room, dude. Just read the article.

Todd

06-14-2005, 11:19 PM

Originally posted by GiriosXeni+Jun 14 2005, 02:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (GiriosXeni @ Jun 14 2005, 02:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -Todd@Jun 13 2005, 10:35 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Ander@Jun 13 2005, 05:28 PM
Actually, I'm shocked. Happy, but shocked.
You're happy that a child molester is back out on the streets and pretty much has permission from the legal system to touch little kids again?
He's ending sleepovers in his room, dude. Just read the article. [/b][/quote]
Point is?

There have been tens of thousands of people accused and convited of child molestation, and I bet MJ is the only one who let kids sleep in his room.

FreeYourMind

06-15-2005, 07:55 PM

Ok stop it. How do YOU know if he's a molester? It's so stupid to go and say that he did fuck kids, and all the other acuses.

I'm happy for MJ, I don't think he did it, and those accusers really destroyed him, just for his money. THe kid doesn't even know what he is saying, his mother just pours in the words like at the other 1000 cases she accused people for.

Todd

06-15-2005, 08:48 PM

Originally posted by FreeYourMind@Jun 15 2005, 01:55 PM
Ok stop it. How do YOU know if he's a molester? It's so stupid to go and say that he did fuck kids, and all the other acuses.

I'm happy for MJ, I don't think he did it, and those accusers really destroyed him, just for his money. THe kid doesn't even know what he is saying, his mother just pours in the words like at the other 1000 cases she accused people for.
A kid should not be able to accuratley describe a stranger's genitals. That right there is enough proof for me to say he's guilty.

Louis

06-16-2005, 09:13 PM

Originally posted by Todd+Jun 15 2005, 07:48 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Todd @ Jun 15 2005, 07:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--FreeYourMind@Jun 15 2005, 01:55 PM
Ok stop it. How do YOU know if he's a molester? It's so stupid to go and say that he did fuck kids, and all the other acuses.

I'm happy for MJ, I don't think he did it, and those accusers really destroyed him, just for his money. THe kid doesn't even know what he is saying, his mother just pours in the words like at the other 1000 cases she accused people for.
A kid should not be able to accuratley describe a stranger's genitals. That right there is enough proof for me to say he's guilty. [/b][/quote]
Todd does have a point...

But it's over now.

ChooseYourPoison

06-20-2005, 03:19 AM

Originally posted by Todd+Jun 14 2005, 10:19 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Todd @ Jun 14 2005, 10:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -GiriosXeni@Jun 14 2005, 02:18 PM

Originally posted by -Todd@Jun 13 2005, 10:35 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Ander@Jun 13 2005, 05:28 PM
Actually, I'm shocked. Happy, but shocked.
You're happy that a child molester is back out on the streets and pretty much has permission from the legal system to touch little kids again?
He's ending sleepovers in his room, dude. Just read the article.
Point is?

There have been tens of thousands of people accused and convited of child molestation, and I bet MJ is the only one who let kids sleep in his room. [/b][/quote]
I'm just going to say a few things.

1.) If the mother was so concerned about her child being molested, why did she continue to let him sleep at Neverland?

2.) In one particular hearing, the judge showed the child a magazine, and asked if it was the one Michael showed him. He said yes, even though the magazine wasn't realeased until AFTER the child said Michael showed it to him.

3.) MJ is an easy target. He's weird, and he's got lots of money. So I'm sure the mother had something to do with it.

4.) McCauly Culkin was on MJ's DEFENSE. It was reported that McCauly was molested by MJ, but then why ever would he be on his defense, if they are such good friends? Can't be cause of money, cause McCauly's sure got enough of it.

5.) You can't pay off the jury! If you're caught with a bribe from the defendant, it's a major crime resulting in high fines.

6.) Court says he's innocent, get over it.