PDA

View Full Version : The clones are here.



Tomi
05-22-2005, 06:51 PM
The first UK human clone
By EMMA MORTON

A HUMAN embryo has been cloned for the first time in Britain, scientists said last night.

The stem cell research was carried out at Newcastle University.

Experts hope the breakthrough will lead to treatments for diseases such as Parkinson’s and Alzheimer’s or for spinal injuries.

It comes as South Korean researchers reveal they have created the first customised embryonic stem cells.

They are tailored to specific patients in order to overcome immune system rejection.

Yesterday, the Brit boffins praised their Korean counterparts as they revealed they had created an embryo, like the one shown above.

Prof Alison Murdoch and Dr Miodrag Stojkovic said in a joint statement: “The Koreans have shown that these techniques can be successful in humans.

“The promise of new treatments based on stem cell technology is moving nearer to being a realistic possibility.

“During the past nine months, our research has progressed well.”

But the research is controversial, with fears it can help create cloned babies. That is banned by law in the UK and offenders risk ten years in jail.

Last night Julia Millington, of the ProLife Alliance, said: “Cloning for research purposes is profoundly unethical.

“The deliberate destruction of human life at any stage of development has no place in a civilised society.”
[source (http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005230305,00.html)]

Finally?

Danielle
05-22-2005, 07:18 PM
I think that's ace! It could be such a breakthrough for medical science and could help a lot of people but then is it morally wrong to create a being/person just to benefit someone else?

F-ck Casey
05-22-2005, 07:21 PM
Is The Sun the most reliable sourch out there?

Tomi
05-22-2005, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by Casey@May 22 2005, 12:21 PM
Is The Sun the most reliable sourch out there?
If not, how about BBC News (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/4564355.stm)?

F-ck Casey
05-22-2005, 07:28 PM
There ya go.

Tomi
05-22-2005, 08:13 PM
Originally posted by Casey@May 22 2005, 12:28 PM
There ya go.
Mmhmm.

So what does everybody think of this, now that the first clone has been made, what now?

.Amanda.
05-22-2005, 08:15 PM
My mom's freaked out by it. XD

Personally, I think that the cloning of FULL humans is unneeded. The cloning of stemcells however is almost vital to scientific progression towards many cures.

fallenangel
05-22-2005, 08:39 PM
Personally, I think that the cloning of FULL humans is unneeded. The cloning of stemcells however is almost vital to scientific progression towards many cures.

i feel pretty much the same. so much good can come out of cloning but i hope it doesn't go too far...

Tomi
05-22-2005, 09:10 PM
Hopefully we wont have clone wars. :P


[star wars. ;)]

Dean
05-22-2005, 10:07 PM
I thought this was going to be a misplaced Revenge of the Sith thread, but yeah, I agree with Casey.
I don't get how some people have said that if they clone themselves completely, over and over again, they will achieve a longer lifespan.

Glenn
05-22-2005, 10:41 PM
I think this is amazing, but I think all cloning should be for medical purposes (finding diseases, etc.) because otherwise, we would seriously have clone wars.

D_A_V_I_D
05-22-2005, 10:47 PM
Originally posted by .in.the.shadows.@May 23 2005, 05:15 AM
Personally, I think that the cloning of FULL humans is unneeded. The cloning of stemcells however is almost vital to scientific progression towards many cures.
Yes i think the stemcell cloneing is and will become even more important in the future. It is good to know scientisits are making advanements but it still freaks me out a bit. :chemist:.

Louis
05-23-2005, 01:30 AM
I wonder if Jesus ever thought about this.

Minus
05-23-2005, 02:40 AM
Originally posted by D_A_V_I_D@May 22 2005, 03:47 PM
Yes i think the stemcell cloneing is and will become even more important in the future. It is good to know scientisits are making advanements but it still freaks me out a bit. :chemist:.
Translation, anyone? (actually, I don't need one, but it's still funny to say)

You know that even though we use this for medical purposes, someone's going to abuse the power.

Tomi
05-23-2005, 02:41 AM
Originally posted by Minus Xero@May 22 2005, 07:40 PM
You know that even though we use this for medical purposes, someone's going to abuse the power.
Heh. :chemist:

Louis
05-23-2005, 03:19 AM
Originally posted by Minus Xero+May 23 2005, 01:40 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Minus Xero @ May 23 2005, 01:40 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--D_A_V_I_D@May 22 2005, 03:47 PM
Yes i think the stemcell cloneing is and will become even more important in the future. It is good to know scientisits are making advanements but it still freaks me out a bit. :chemist:.
Translation, anyone? (actually, I don&#39;t need one, but it&#39;s still funny to say)

You know that even though we use this for medical purposes, someone&#39;s going to abuse the power. [/b][/quote]
So true...

User Name
05-23-2005, 03:43 AM
Originally posted by tm™+May 22 2005, 06:41 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (tm™ @ May 22 2005, 06:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Minus Xero@May 22 2005, 07:40 PM
You know that even though we use this for medical purposes, someone&#39;s going to abuse the power.
Heh. :chemist: [/b][/quote]
They found us out, Tomi, run for it&#33; :o

*leaves thread*

Tomi
05-23-2005, 03:49 AM
Originally posted by Cameron+May 22 2005, 08:43 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Cameron @ May 22 2005, 08:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -tm™@May 22 2005, 06:41 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Minus Xero@May 22 2005, 07:40 PM
You know that even though we use this for medical purposes, someone&#39;s going to abuse the power.
Heh. :chemist:
They found us out, Tomi, run for it&#33; :o

*leaves thread* [/b][/quote]
Head for the hills&#33;

*runs*

:chemist:

Theazninvasion68
05-23-2005, 03:53 AM
run behind that strangely large black car...

Louis
05-23-2005, 04:00 AM
Why are you pointing at my car?

Suicide King
05-23-2005, 04:20 AM
Originally posted by Minus Xero@May 23 2005, 01:40 AM

Translation, anyone? (actually, I don&#39;t need one, but it&#39;s still funny to say)

You know that even though we use this for medical purposes, someone&#39;s going to abuse the power.

It&#39;s not like someone could just wip up a cloning lab in their garage.

Tomi
05-23-2005, 04:36 AM
Originally posted by Suicide King+May 22 2005, 09:20 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Suicide King @ May 22 2005, 09:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Minus Xero@May 23 2005, 01:40 AM

Translation, anyone? (actually, I don&#39;t need one, but it&#39;s still funny to say)

You know that even though we use this for medical purposes, someone&#39;s going to abuse the power.

It&#39;s not like someone could just wip up a cloning lab in their garage. [/b][/quote]
Uh oh. He figured me out. Shit, run guys&#33; :chemist:

Theazninvasion68
05-23-2005, 04:41 AM
i got the stuff in my strangely large truck thats extreamly glowing yellow colors
comeon get in&#33;&#33;




yes, the president will clone some troops and then make a uber clone army

Minus
05-23-2005, 04:48 AM
Originally posted by Suicide King+May 22 2005, 09:20 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Suicide King @ May 22 2005, 09:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Minus Xero@May 23 2005, 01:40 AM

Translation, anyone? (actually, I don&#39;t need one, but it&#39;s still funny to say)

You know that even though we use this for medical purposes, someone&#39;s going to abuse the power.

It&#39;s not like someone could just wip up a cloning lab in their garage. [/b][/quote]
Yes, because all evil and leaders were poor and lived in their garages.

Any world power could get access to it.

Theazninvasion68
05-23-2005, 04:52 AM
ok, cloneing = possible breakthough.
power + cloneing = world domination, untill they find how to make babies born with artificaly

FreeYourMind
05-23-2005, 06:52 PM
Hmmf, I don&#39;t really like this.. personally I&#39;m against cloning.

Minus
05-23-2005, 07:22 PM
To me, if the good outweighs the evil... in this case, it&#39;s the medical breakthrough of the century, so I&#39;m all for it.

And if it were used to make an army or whatever, it would take a while to grow them to full size, right?

[Fool]
05-24-2005, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by fallenangel@May 22 2005, 08:39 PM

Personally, I think that the cloning of FULL humans is unneeded. The cloning of stemcells however is almost vital to scientific progression towards many cures.

i feel pretty much the same. so much good can come out of cloning but i hope it doesn&#39;t go too far...
yea me 2

Dave+Kay
05-26-2005, 06:20 PM
using it for medical purposes is good, but one day, if it ever becomes comercial, i might have to clone myself, just for a laugh.