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Neil
04-13-2005, 05:58 PM
Hundreds of students at 18 universities nation-wide have had lawsuits filed against them by the RIAA for filesharing over Internet2." The official RIAA Press Release and commentary at MSNBC is also available. From the article: "i2Hub has been seen as a safe haven, and what we wanted to do was puncture that misconception," said Cary Sherman, president of the RIAA. "This has been a subversion of the research purposes for which Internet2 was developed."

Isn't Todd on that network?

USAF.07
04-14-2005, 12:37 AM
Hope the RIAA realizes that how much they keep suing people there will always be some sort of free music trading online. Programs like Kazaa Lite block IPs from the "bad guys" and programs get smarter all the time to help keep from getting caught. The only way to completely shut down mass trading is to get a court to declare all P2P programs illegal and make it a felony to use them (like how they first brought down Napster). Society has just accepted that downloading as a standard practice and will keep doing it until it's illegal to have the programs themselves. Then again if cds came down in price and went up in qaulity then they wouldn't have this problem in the first place.

RX8LP
04-14-2005, 04:00 AM
Originally posted by USAF.07@Apr 14 2005, 12:55 AM
Hope the RIAA realizes that how much they keep suing people there will always be some sort of free music trading online. Programs like Kazaa Lite block IPs from the "bad guys" and programs get smarter all the time to help keep from getting caught. The only way to completely shut down mass trading is to get a court to declare all P2P programs illegal and make it a felony to use them (like how they first brought down Napster). Society has just accepted that downloading as a standard practice and will keep doing it until it's illegal to have the programs themselves. Then again if cds came down in price and went up in qaulity then they wouldn't have this problem in the first place.
word

Minus
04-14-2005, 04:04 AM
The sad thing the RIAA doesn't realize that the more P2P is prosecuted, the more the public works to make P2P more efficient and less trackable.

They're pushing the P2P evolutionary chain by leaps and bounds.

Todd
04-14-2005, 04:27 AM
Originally posted by Neil@Apr 13 2005, 01:16 PM

Hundreds of students at 18 universities nation-wide have had lawsuits filed against them by the RIAA for filesharing over Internet2." The official RIAA Press Release and commentary at MSNBC is also available. From the article: "i2Hub has been seen as a safe haven, and what we wanted to do was puncture that misconception," said Cary Sherman, president of the RIAA. "This has been a subversion of the research purposes for which Internet2 was developed."

Isn't Todd on that network?
My campus is on the I2 network, but I don't do any p2p over it. But yeah, I could be a target if I did.

Evil Angel
04-14-2005, 07:06 AM
Originally posted by Todd+Apr 14 2005, 10:15 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Todd @ Apr 14 2005, 10:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Neil@Apr 13 2005, 01:16 PM

Hundreds of students at 18 universities nation-wide have had lawsuits filed against them by the RIAA for filesharing over Internet2." The official RIAA Press Release and commentary at MSNBC is also available. From the article: "i2Hub has been seen as a safe haven, and what we wanted to do was puncture that misconception," said Cary Sherman, president of the RIAA. "This has been a subversion of the research purposes for which Internet2 was developed."

Isn&#39;t Todd on that network?
My campus is on the I2 network, but I don&#39;t do any p2p over it. But yeah, I could be a target if I did. [/b][/quote]
"You&#39;re under arrest&#33;"

spooky statement brrr.

Neil
04-14-2005, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by USAF.07@Apr 13 2005, 07:55 PM
Programs like Kazaa Lite block IPs from the "bad guys"
Then they just get a new IP range. It&#39;s not foolproof.

goso88
04-14-2005, 06:22 PM
The sad thing the RIAA doesn&#39;t realize that the more P2P is prosecuted, the more the public works to make P2P more efficient and less trackable.

They&#39;re pushing the P2P evolutionary chain by leaps and bounds.

*nods :)

Minus
04-14-2005, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by goso88@Apr 14 2005, 12:40 PM

The sad thing the RIAA doesn&#39;t realize that the more P2P is prosecuted, the more the public works to make P2P more efficient and less trackable.

They&#39;re pushing the P2P evolutionary chain by leaps and bounds.

*nods :)
Glad someone agrees.

Napster was shut down, KaZaA came to be, along with a plethora of others. Start suing KaZaA, bittorrent comes along.

So instead of downloading individual songs, people can now download whole albums in one sitting.

Good work, RIAA.

Glenn
04-15-2005, 01:59 AM
I hate the fucking RIAA.

USAF.07
04-15-2005, 02:15 AM
Agreed. Imagine if they put this much energy into developing better talent or making sure the artists see more profits?

Minus
04-15-2005, 03:30 AM
Originally posted by USAF.07@Apr 14 2005, 08:33 PM
Agreed. Imagine if they put this much energy into developing better talent or making sure the artists see more profits?
They wouldn&#39;t be the RIAA.

*drum crash, comedic roll*

USAF.07
04-15-2005, 04:32 AM
:lol: right on. See you got early Fort Minor Fever there too.

Evil Angel
04-15-2005, 05:11 AM
Originally posted by SaxopianoGRD@Apr 15 2005, 07:47 AM
I hate the fucking RIAA.
Seconded

Neil
04-15-2005, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by Minus Xero+Apr 14 2005, 05:11 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Minus Xero @ Apr 14 2005, 05:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--goso88@Apr 14 2005, 12:40 PM

The sad thing the RIAA doesn&#39;t realize that the more P2P is prosecuted, the more the public works to make P2P more efficient and less trackable.

They&#39;re pushing the P2P evolutionary chain by leaps and bounds.

*nods :)
Glad someone agrees.

Napster was shut down, KaZaA came to be, along with a plethora of others. Start suing KaZaA, bittorrent comes along.

So instead of downloading individual songs, people can now download whole albums in one sitting.

Good work, RIAA. [/b][/quote]
Correction..

Bittorrent has been around for a long time, it&#39;s just recently that it&#39;s become mainstream ;)

Glenn
04-15-2005, 07:54 PM
Originally posted by USAF.07@Apr 14 2005, 09:33 PM
Agreed. Imagine if they put this much energy into developing better talent or making sure the artists see more profits?
Well, the RIAA thinks that cracking down on file sharing will help artists&#39; profits by increasing the amount of CD sales.

Minus
04-15-2005, 08:22 PM
Originally posted by Neil+Apr 15 2005, 11:04 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Neil @ Apr 15 2005, 11:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -Minus Xero@Apr 14 2005, 05:11 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--goso88@Apr 14 2005, 12:40 PM

The sad thing the RIAA doesn&#39;t realize that the more P2P is prosecuted, the more the public works to make P2P more efficient and less trackable.

They&#39;re pushing the P2P evolutionary chain by leaps and bounds.

*nods :)
Glad someone agrees.

Napster was shut down, KaZaA came to be, along with a plethora of others. Start suing KaZaA, bittorrent comes along.

So instead of downloading individual songs, people can now download whole albums in one sitting.

Good work, RIAA.
Correction..

Bittorrent has been around for a long time, it&#39;s just recently that it&#39;s become mainstream ;) [/b][/quote]
I stand corrected.

The RIAA still sucks, though.

At least the MPAA is being lenient.

I believe some movie producers are in talks of doing some stuff with BT.

Tomi
04-15-2005, 11:53 PM
IMO, the RIAA is fighting a losing battle. They&#39;ll never win. People will still continue downloading music. We&#39;ll find ways.

But for now, I&#39;ll just go back to downloading music. :)

peripeteia
04-16-2005, 02:42 AM
fuck the fucking RIAA.

$pvcxGhxztCasey
04-17-2005, 08:03 PM
I guess I&#39;ll be the first to admit that I haven&#39;t bought a newly released CD in...wow, forever. I just download them now.

Usually people say they sample the CDs by downloading some tracks and then buy them, but I just download the whole thing.

Tomi
04-17-2005, 08:37 PM
Originally posted by Casey@Apr 17 2005, 02:03 PM
I guess I&#39;ll be the first to admit that I haven&#39;t bought a newly released CD in...wow, forever. I just download them now.

Usually people say they sample the CDs by downloading some tracks and then buy them, but I just download the whole thing.
I download the whole album [bittorent] and then if i like it, I buy it. ;)

$pvcxGhxztCasey
04-17-2005, 08:57 PM
I just say to myself, "Why buy a &#036;16+ album with nothing extra? It has 13 tracks, so why is it that much money? No DVD? No enhanced content? Fuck that."

The Mars Volta&#39;s Frances The Mute was &#036;9.99, but I bet you the new NIN album will be &#036;16+. Neither has bonus content. Both are the same in terms of length.

It&#39;s bullshit. Fuck going after BitTorrent & P2P...lower the fucking prices&#33;

Minus
04-17-2005, 09:06 PM
Originally posted by peripeteia@Apr 15 2005, 08:42 PM
fuck the fucking RIAA.
I believe that would be "fuck the fucking fuckers."

FTM was 9.99 here too... I got that like I was shoplifting... then I saw all of&#39;em were like that :lol:

Tomi
04-17-2005, 09:06 PM
Originally posted by Casey@Apr 17 2005, 02:57 PM
I just say to myself, "Why buy a &#036;16+ album with nothing extra? It has 13 tracks, so why is it that much money? No DVD? No enhanced content? Fuck that."

The Mars Volta&#39;s Frances The Mute was &#036;9.99, but I bet you the new NIN album will be &#036;16+. Neither has bonus content. Both are the same in terms of length.

It&#39;s bullshit. Fuck going after BitTorrent & P2P...lower the fucking prices&#33;
They already did that. ;)

$pvcxGhxztCasey
04-17-2005, 09:15 PM
Hahahahahaha.

No they didn&#39;t.

Cale.
04-18-2005, 05:18 AM
Originally posted by Casey@Apr 17 2005, 09:15 PM
Hahahahahaha.

No they didn&#39;t.
Indeed. CD prices are a joke these days. When artists put a DVD in to encourage people to buy the price just goes up about &#036;10 in Australia.

Last CD i bought was.....The Offspring - Splinter. And what a waste of &#036;20 that was. 32 minutes of music.

iHybridora
05-03-2005, 02:16 AM
Originally posted by tmô@Apr 15 2005, 11:53 PM
IMO, the RIAA is fighting a losing battle. They&#39;ll never win. People will still continue downloading music. We&#39;ll find ways.

But for now, I&#39;ll just go back to downloading music. :)
true man,

Download is just a way for us people who don&#39;t have the time, the money to buy a CD jsut for one song. iTunes, people don&#39;t feel like paying. But then there is a bad side of pirating (mostly the who download thing is bad) is that people just do this to burn music and sell it. So once the RIAA thinks of a good way to get songs without paying like doing a good deed and you get like a card with a special # and you type that in and get a free song. (which is almost simular to the pepsi promo)

[Fool]
05-05-2005, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by Neil+Apr 14 2005, 04:48 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Neil @ Apr 14 2005, 04:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--USAF.07@Apr 13 2005, 07:55 PM
Programs like Kazaa Lite block IPs from the "bad guys"
Then they just get a new IP range. It&#39;s not foolproof. [/b][/quote]
yea your right, they wont ever be able to stop it though, its too far sprad now&#33; although i agree they have helped it along :D