Does anybody else NOT like Collision Course?

[LP_Freak_2735]

I don't mean to bash it, but does anyone else agree that it's not good?

It's Linkin Park, so it's not horrible, but I don't like it. :unsure: :wth:

[Calenia]

same here

[Omar]

Ditto. I actually was so turned off by the three tracks I heard, I haven't bothered to listen to the whole thing.

However, Collision Course jumped back into #8 on Billboard with another 280,000 copies. So apparently, a lot of people disagree with us.

[Neil]

I think it's fine. Jay-Z rapping to LP beats is cool :thumbsup:

[MariosLP]

I didn't like
Its shit :lol:

[Figure11]

It´s just ok

Jay´s instrumentals sucks (Big Pimpin and Izzo)
and of course, their lyrics sucks too

[Glenn]

I hated it when I first heard it. I like it better now that I bought it but I still think that some of the lyrics suck.

[Lisa]

i dont like it very much. I don't like hip-hop.

[bongmaster]

This album frickin SUCKS!!!!!!!!! :mellow:

[ChooseYourPoison]

I'm not a fan of big pimpin/papercut or izzo/in the end, but the rest of the album is just fine.

[LPballerina]

:chaz: Hey people, yeah, I'm a newbie on this siiite...but yeah I don't like Collision Course...Jay-Z just messes up the LP thing. hey, by the way if you want to explain this siiite to me that'd be cool...yeah I luv linkin park and I spend most of my time looking up stuff about them...just didn't get around to actually posting till like uh now...

[lp15girl]

I dont like all.....I just like Numb/encore and Lying from u/dirty off ur shoulder.....and I think that others really suck.....

[Neil]

Originally posted by bongmaster@Jan 1 2005, 08:21 PM
This album frickin SUCKS!!!!!!!!! :mellow:
Do you care to back up your opinion with reasoning? Or do you just wish to become the '!' master?

[User Name]

Originally posted by LP_Freak_2735@Dec 31 2004, 05:05 PM
It's Linkin Park, so it's not horrible,
I'm not sure if I should say something right here. :mellow:

[Ryan]

Originally posted by Cameron+Jan 2 2005, 10:08 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Cameron @ Jan 2 2005, 10:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--LP_Freak_2735@Dec 31 2004, 05:05 PM
It's Linkin Park, so it's not horrible,
I'm not sure if I should say something right here. :mellow: [/b][/quote]
Dooo it!!

[Carl Johnson]

I hate it. Seriously, they are the 6 worst LP songs, including demos i've heard. Even The Wizard Song is ahead :P

[Adam]

Dirt off your shoulder/Lying from you, is the only song I actually like on the CD.

[Kevin]

I only didn't like numb/encore and izzo/in the end , numb encore becuz I just hate numb and izzo in the end because it doens't sound good together

[astray]

I like tracks 1, 4 and 6, but nothing else on the album. To be honest, i expected a lot more, but the fact that it came with a pretty cool DVD made it worth buying.

[JJ]

i must say i like it a lot.

i think its pretty cool how they actually mixed the track together. i admire Jay-Z, he is like number one in the rap/hip-hop world.

but each to their own....

i can see why some LP fans wouldnt like it - its nothing like LP would normally do.

[Calenia]

The main point is: I don't like that Rap-hip Hop thing so much
However, all I wanted to hear was some new material. But it seems like everything they do is rearranging the old stuff over and over again instead of recording some new. Alomst 2 years passed since Meteora was released - A live album, another remix-one - I'm curious how long it'll take until we get a best-of album. :unsure: :(

[DruSilla]

Originally posted by Calenia@Jan 3 2005, 01:46 PM
But it seems like everything they do is rearranging the old stuff over and over again instead of recording some new. Alomst 2 years passed since Meteora was released - A live album, another remix-one - I'm curious how long it'll take until we get a best-of album. :unsure: :(
same here.
i don't like the album at all.
well i do think it was a good idea to do sth different, like some one before me said: that kind of music is sth lp normally don't do, but i think the result is just bad.

and the remixing the songs they have over and over and over and over again is just simply ruining their music for me....
personally i don't need to hear every song they have in 1 million different ways!

[DiSiLLUSiON]

I don't like it. Give me their oldest songs any day.

[Neil]

Originally posted by Kevin@Jan 3 2005, 06:45 AM
izzo in the end because it doens't sound good together
Yeah, very true.

[bongmaster]

Originally posted by Neil+Jan 3 2005, 03:46 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Neil @ Jan 3 2005, 03:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--bongmaster@Jan 1 2005, 08:21 PM
This album frickin SUCKS!!!!!!!!! :mellow:
Do you care to back up your opinion with reasoning? Or do you just wish to become the '!' master? [/b][/quote]
absolutely none of it mixes well together at all. mixture of jive speaking rap with Linkin Park does not mix at all. I hate it when they transition to Linkin Parks music from Jay-Z's beats, like when they try to incorporate 99 Problems with One Step Closer. ITS JUST HALF-HEARTED CRAP!! To me this sounds like a filler album in between their new stuff. I am really disappointed with LP right now. I want them to work on new stuff instead of crap like this! I'm even really tired with Meteora, I still love Hybrid Theory, but Meteora has really turned me off. It was good for the moment, but it didn't last. Their next album is really going to decide whether or not I'll continue as a fan.

[Neil]

Originally posted by bongmaster+Jan 3 2005, 03:02 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bongmaster @ Jan 3 2005, 03:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by -Neil@Jan 3 2005, 03:46 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--bongmaster@Jan 1 2005, 08:21 PM
This album frickin SUCKS!!!!!!!!!* :mellow:
Do you care to back up your opinion with reasoning? Or do you just wish to become the '!' master?
absolutely none of it mixes well together at all. mixture of jive speaking rap with Linkin Park does not mix at all. I hate it when they transition to Linkin Parks music from Jay-Z's beats, like when they try to incorporate 99 Problems with One Step Closer. ITS JUST HALF-HEARTED CRAP!! To me this sounds like a filler album in between their new stuff. I am really disappointed with LP right now. I want them to work on new stuff instead of crap like this! I'm even really tired with Meteora, I still love Hybrid Theory, but Meteora has really turned me off. It was good for the moment, but it didn't last. Their next album is really going to decide whether or not I'll continue as a fan. [/b][/quote]
It was done in 4 days BTW. But good backup :)

[lofton0788]

its definitly one of their worse albums...i really cant decide if its worse then reanimation or not.the fact of the matter is that i like LP because of their rock, and i'm not a big rap fan...so thats probably why i dont like it too much

[goso88]

But it seems like everything they do is rearranging the old stuff over and over again instead of recording some new. Alomst 2 years passed since Meteora was released - A live album, another remix-one - I'm curious how long it'll take until we get a best-of album.


Ditto!

[bongmaster]

One more thing, I am also a LP street team member. If their next album doesnt alteast surpass Meteora, I'm gone.

[Messy Marj]

I hate Collision Course. Just like others said, they need to bring out new material.

[Melonman64]

i agree with pretty much everyone here
the idea of Jay-Z and LP together just makes me shudder in horror

[thrivana]

i wub it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :wub:

[JJ]

Originally posted by lofton0788@Jan 3 2005, 09:14 PM
its definitly one of their worse albums...i really cant decide if its worse then reanimation or not.the fact of the matter is that i like LP because of their rock, and i'm not a big rap fan...so thats probably why i dont like it too much
reanimation was an album in itself! i dont know how people can even say they are similar.

sure they kept the same lyrics - but its the music that is the hard part to do. LP have shown with both reanimation and collision course that they can mix things up. they arent affraid to try new things... which in the music bussiness is a risky thing to do.

LP want to experiment while they can - theres no point in doing all this when they are old news later on in life they want to do it now with other people (Jay-Z, and the many people of reanimation) who are at the top of their games.

give LP some slack people - you may not like it but just dont go round slagging them off just because they arent doing the whole nu metal thing. like they have said from the start they are a hybrid of many type of music - and if bringing out a remix album and a collaboration album with one of the best rappers alive, fair play to them IMO

[bongmaster]

I'm not bashing them cause they are making something "new" (even in reality it really isn't), I'm dissappointed because they are not taking the time to create their OWN new music! It's been almost two years since Meteora, and they aren't even in the studio! People have said to me that they are taking the long period of time to create something even better, but that all sounds like bullcrap to me. Many bands that I love have released albums only a year apart from each other and they are still great!

edit: I don't mind them experimenting, but they are their own band! I really don't like to see bands experiment at the expense of their own creativety.

[JJ]

Originally posted by bongmaster@Jan 4 2005, 10:31 PM
I'm not bashing them cause they are making something "new" (even in reality it really isn't), I'm dissappointed because they are not taking the time to create their OWN new music! It's been almost two years since Meteora, and they aren't even in the studio! People have said to me that they are taking the long period of time to create something even better, but that all sounds like bullcrap to me. Many bands that I love have released albums only a year apart from each other and they are still great!

edit: I don't mind them experimenting, but they are their own band! I really don't like to see bands experiment at the expense of their own creativety.
you know how LP work though... look at the song by myself.

it started off in 1997.... ended up on Hybrid Theory released in 2000. therefore 3 years in the making. LP like to take their time, right now i bet their thinking of ideas and stuff.

[bongmaster]

Yeah, but bands that generally like to take their time can create music fast also. Look at Lamb of God, their second album took 18 months; their newest, around six. Then there's also songs like Numb, where the band said it was created very quickly. Look at the Meteora booklet.

[JJ]

Originally posted by bongmaster@Jan 4 2005, 10:43 PM
Yeah, but bands that generally like to take their time can create music fast also. Look at Lamb of God, their second album took 18 months; their newest, around six. Then there's also songs like Numb, where the band said it was created very quickly. Look at the Meteora booklet.
true.

look at bands like incubus - their latest album took 6 weeks to make!

but to be honest - its not their best work

[bongmaster]

Originally posted by JJ79+Jan 4 2005, 11:11 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JJ79 @ Jan 4 2005, 11:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--bongmaster@Jan 4 2005, 10:43 PM
Yeah, but bands that generally like to take their time can create music fast also. Look at Lamb of God, their second album took 18 months; their newest, around six. Then there's also songs like Numb, where the band said it was created very quickly. Look at the Meteora booklet.
true.

look at bands like incubus - their latest album took 6 weeks to make!

but to be honest - its not their best work [/b][/quote]
I'll agree with that! :P

[Dynamic Figure]

when I saw this album hanging in the cd shop,I feel surprised a little bit.before sometime ,on the board of lp official website I saw that Mike said that lp would not release an album about remix of Meteora, but fans could remix songs without commercial benifit.
but I got this cd,I listen to whole the song,it is ok.it is not expected of mine.
I can hear of the message that lp will continue the revolution projekt tour,coz' I do not live in US,so I can not see the show.I look foreward to the new album ,not remix the second.
I do not like this one!

[Razan]

I loved CC!
They're so professional, I don't think any other band could've made a mash up like this.
It.was.radioactive!

[Kevin]

I don't understand why people say lp and rap what a hoorible combination or something like that , if you listen to mike's couplets it is rap so what's the problem

[bongmaster]

Originally posted by Kevin@Jan 5 2005, 05:39 PM
I don't understand why people say lp and rap what a hoorible combination or something like that , if you listen to mike's couplets it is rap so what's the problem
I never said that. I just said Jay-Z is a horrible choice. There is a big difference. Mike is asian, and Jay-Z is black. I'm not being racist, but each groups has their own styles of voices and lyrics. They just sound real different from each other.

Personally, I hate it when bands do collaborations like that... I want them to find their own music, with their own identity. not mix something old up, and call it new.

[Lpfan668]

I like CC. Sure, some songs are annoying, but all we can do is wait till LP makes a new cd.

[draixen]

I hate when Linkin Park do this things.
They have too much potential for do music, but they don't use it:

1. Reanimation (i like it but i think they had to wait more time before release it).

2. Meteora (i love it [breaking the habit is the best song made ever in music history] but a lot of song sounds like Hybrid theory ones [Numb=Pushing me away]).

3. Now this mush up (It's pretty cool, but some songs parts don't sounds fine.

I hope next album surprise me.
Please LP, you can do it better.

[Jon[athan]]

ya...i agree with just about all of you i dont really like it...at all. the only song i think is ok is numb/encore and even then. this isnt reall what i had hoped for a third album. hopefully they will have another album that is only their material.

http://www.allposters.com/IMAGES/153/RCK108.jpg

[Dark Knight]

You guys are crazy :o i loved collision course and still do, i see nothing wrong with Lp and Jay-z on the same record, it's natural for two powerful forces in music to come together.

[gongbenzhi]

Collision Course is okay, the tracks aren't too bad, it's just that there aren't enough songs on the album to make it worth buying.

[numblove]

well, i can't say it's that bad, and btw they had to come up with something until the new album and now if the oportunity came they weren't just going to let it slip right?? :unsure:

[lpsk8er]

Collision Course doesn't suck , I think it was worth listening to but some ppl just don't take the time to listen to the whole album and that's the reason why they don't like it.

[JJ]

Originally posted by Dark Knight@Jan 9 2005, 05:25 AM
You guys are crazy :o i loved collision course and still do, i see nothing wrong with Lp and Jay-z on the same record, it's natural for two powerful forces in music to come together.
well said that man!

[albi]

Originally posted by JJ79+Jan 9 2005, 08:19 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JJ79 @ Jan 9 2005, 08:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Dark Knight@Jan 9 2005, 05:25 AM
You guys are crazy :o i loved collision course and still do, i see nothing wrong with Lp and Jay-z on the same record, it's natural for two powerful forces in music to come together.
well said that man! [/b][/quote]
can't be more agree

[JessaBomb]

im just really curious here atm but y did lp even hook-up wif Jay-Z?? i thought they ruind ther best song when they did numb/encore as soon as i heard it i wus like wtf is this, is it a joke?!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v226/jessabomb/58.jpg

[Kæton]

What'd that picture have to do with your... post...? :huh:...

[bongmaster]

Originally posted by Dark Knight@Jan 9 2005, 05:25 AM
You guys are crazy :o i loved collision course and still do, i see nothing wrong with Lp and Jay-z on the same record, it's natural for two powerful forces in music to come together.
Jay-Z is horrible. Natural for two powerful forces in music to come together? HA, don't make me laugh. Did anyone see Snoop Dog cover Metallica's Sad But True? Two huge musical forces into one, utter crap. You can't say that was natural. Ok, fine, you all want me to express my true feelings? I feel that rap is talentless crap that should stay in it's own place. Yes, there are the occasional rap-rock bands that I like (LP), but for the majority they suck. Lacking in decent music, lacking in decent lyrics, lacking in anything good. I don't even consider it music. The BIGGEST reason I really hate Collision course is the Lyrics. I CANNOT STAND the mindless words they jamble together in rap. I mean, COME ON!!! 99 Problems but a bitch ain't one!? stop rapping about girls, partying and fame, and come up with something worth-while. Give me one rapper who doesn't "sing" about that stuff, and you have found me someone who I can respect. I didn't say enjoy, but respect.

and to the person who said that the haters didn't even listen to the CD- guess what, I listened to the whole thing. Pure crap.

[bongmaster]

Originally posted by numblove@Jan 9 2005, 02:36 PM
well, i can't say it's that bad, and btw they had to come up with something until the new album and now if the oportunity came they weren't just going to let it slip right?? :unsure:
Did you even read my earlier post? Lp doesnt need to tour around the world twice. Let everyone see them, then move on. Once they're done touring, they should work on new music like all other bands.

[Kæton]

Don't double post.

[JessaBomb]

ur no what bongmaster.... i completely agree with u!

[JJ]

Originally posted by bongmaster@Jan 10 2005, 08:04 PM
Jay-Z is horrible. Natural for two powerful forces in music to come together? HA, don't make me laugh. Did anyone see Snoop Dog cover Metallica's Sad But True? Two huge musical forces into one, utter crap. You can't say that was natural. Ok, fine, you all want me to express my true feelings? I feel that rap is talentless crap that should stay in it's own place. Yes, there are the occasional rap-rock bands that I like (LP), but for the majority they suck. Lacking in decent music, lacking in decent lyrics, lacking in anything good. I don't even consider it music. Rap= Retards attempting poetry. The BIGGEST reason I really hate Collision course is the Lyrics. I CANNOT STAND the mindless words they jamble together in rap. I mean, COME ON!!! 99 Problems but a bitch ain't one!? stop rapping about girls, partying and fame, and come up with something worth-while. Give me one rapper who doesn't "sing" about that stuff, and you have found me someone who I can respect. I didn't say enjoy, but respect.

and to the person who said that the haters didn't even listen to the CD- guess what, I listened to the whole thing. Pure crap.
each to their own i suppose - but i must dissagree.

[SwhirlwindInsideOfYourHead!]

Originally posted by Duffy@Jan 2 2005, 12:15 AM
I hated it when I first heard it. I like it better now that I bought it but I still think that some of the lyrics suck.
I agree at first i was so pissed of i was trying to find away to complain to Linkin Park but its alright i suppose. I would of preffered collision coarse with non rapper.
One Step Closer/Points of Athouritywould be really cool if Jay Z wasnt in it! and maybe some new linkin park lyrics in there (good lyrics!)

[Ztarduzt]

i like collision course.. but i like HT and meteora more.. there is too much rap on CC.. not that i don't like that, but it's just too much

[Kevin]

Originally posted by JJ87+Jan 11 2005, 11:18 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JJ87 @ Jan 11 2005, 11:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--bongmaster@Jan 10 2005, 08:04 PM
Jay-Z is horrible. Natural for two powerful forces in music to come together? HA, don't make me laugh. Did anyone see Snoop Dog cover Metallica's Sad But True? Two huge musical forces into one, utter crap. You can't say that was natural. Ok, fine, you all want me to express my true feelings? I feel that rap is talentless crap that should stay in it's own place. Yes, there are the occasional rap-rock bands that I like (LP), but for the majority they suck. Lacking in decent music, lacking in decent lyrics, lacking in anything good. I don't even consider it music. Rap= Retards attempting poetry. The BIGGEST reason I really hate Collision course is the Lyrics. I CANNOT STAND the mindless words they jamble together in rap. I mean, COME ON!!! 99 Problems but a bitch ain't one!? stop rapping about girls, partying and fame, and come up with something worth-while. Give me one rapper who doesn't "sing" about that stuff, and you have found me someone who I can respect. I didn't say enjoy, but respect.

and to the person who said that the haters didn't even listen to the CD- guess what, I listened to the whole thing. Pure crap.
each to their own i suppose - but i must dissagree. [/b][/quote]
Totally disagree all music kinds have there own type of lyrics that there aren't alle emotinall doesn't mean they aren't good

[Branden]

Originally posted by bongmaster@Jan 10 2005, 03:22 PM
Rap= Retards attempting poetry.
... :unsure:
Ok, I'm gonna make this clear. I do not like rap or hip-hop. I don't understand it, I don't get it. But, I don't think that it's appropriate to call them mentally challenged. Most rappers probably are smart, though they don't show it in their grammar.

Secondly, I don't think that they're attempting to write poetry really. I doubt that their goal in writing this music is to write something to publish in a book, and have it sit on a library shelf next to Edgar Allen Poe. I'm guessing that they write this music to express themselves, just like the bands that you like express themselves.

Thirdly, if I were you, I would definitely change that R-word in your post. I don't appreciate it personally, and the LPA doesn't take that stuff lightly.

[Mark]

Originally posted by bongmaster@Jan 10 2005, 04:52 PM
Rap= Retards attempting poetry.
Wow. I didn't notice that before. You're warned for use of ********. Read the rules.

[ChaoX]

i just hate the album .. and i hope that they don't do more stuff like it

[Danny]

Well, I think it wasn't that bad, but if there was a lil more brad delson :brad: :D

[Jayster]

Originally posted by LP_Freak_2735@Jan 1 2005, 12:23 AM
I don't mean to bash it, but does anyone else agree that it's not good?

It's Linkin Park, so it's not horrible, but I don't like it. :unsure: :wth:
its a good album...i mean..lp is showing their skills in mash ups!!

[Mushroom Cloud]

At first I totally hated the idea.....but then I heard clips of Lying From You/Dirt Off Your Shoulders and Numb/Encore and thougt....hey this could be really great. Unfortunately, other then Jigga What/ Faint.....those were the only real good songs. The other songs didnt sound like LP and Jay-Z worked with them much at all. I was excited to hear what Papercut/Big Pimpin was gonna sound like......but all it had was LP rapping over it for less then a minute and then it was pure Jay-Z. I know it only took 4 days.....but if your gonna make something when you have a rare opurtunity like this......make something thats better then ok. If the mash-ups were 'mashed-up' a little bit better and if LP and Jay-z had recorded a few new exclusive tracks together....that would have been awesome. But it felt too much like a quick buck effort. Personally....I think LP and Jay-Z should have just done the performance for MTV and never had bothered making a studio version of the songs.

[RiffRockerX]

I honestly dont think Collision Course is bad. I'm usually not one for the idea of LP and Jay Z together but once i heard Numb/Encore i gave it a chance and it grew on me. There are a few i didnt go for such as Izzo/In The End now that just doesn't work together in my opinion. It goes to show you how far LP is willing to go make a new and different album. They have proven their creativity and their will to blend different types of music. In my opinion it gets a 3/5

[Lallou]

Originally posted by Mushroom Cloud@Feb 10 2005, 02:58 PM
At first I totally hated the idea.....but then I heard clips of Lying From You/Dirt Off Your Shoulders and Numb/Encore and thougt....hey this could be really great. Unfortunately, other then Jigga What/ Faint.....those were the only real good songs. The other songs didnt sound like LP and Jay-Z worked with them much at all. I was excited to hear what Papercut/Big Pimpin was gonna sound like......but all it had was LP rapping over it for less then a minute and then it was pure Jay-Z. I know it only took 4 days.....but if your gonna make something when you have a rare opurtunity like this......make something thats better then ok. If the mash-ups were 'mashed-up' a little bit better and if LP and Jay-z had recorded a few new exclusive tracks together....that would have been awesome. But it felt too much like a quick buck effort. Personally....I think LP and Jay-Z should have just done the performance for MTV and never had bothered making a studio version of the songs.
Totally agree with what you posted. I remember when my ssister told me about Collision Course, I was totally against it and I really hated the idea. Because generally, I hate hip-hop and rap, and it just seemed like a horrible idea. But when I listened to numb/encore, I was like "This sounds really cool" and it's my fav track on the album. Dirt of your shoulders/Lying from you is cool. But I don't like the rest. I have the album because I support LP and I would have gotten it no matter what the out come. But generally, I don't like the album.

[PyroNite]

to me its allright ;) i like encore/numb and the dirt off your shoulder one but the rest arent that good becuase of jay-z i guess, but i got mine free so i didnt lose anything :whistle:

[LPfankasmusse]

I think the only decent songs on it were '99 problems'...and...Ah, that was the only good one! Mike's mcing was just really good.

[lp-pagouras]

the thing with collision course is that it's not nu metal.the songs are good but they 're not the style we like.it's something different...

[LPfreaK1852]

the album was terrible..........
chester was shutted up by jayz soit was more like a jayz album rather than linkin park's. i hope their next album will be better

[Minus Xero]

Originally posted by LPfreaK1852@Mar 9 2005, 09:03 PM
the album was terrible..........
chester was shutted up by jayz soit was more like a jayz album rather than linkin park's. i hope their next album will be better
Well it isn't all about Linkin Park. This isn't an exclusive LP album, it's Jay-Z as well.

A lot of LP Fans I know don't realize that, it's also about Jay-Z. Which makes it great, as it removes a lot of the crappy beats from the Black Album and lays down tight LP beats.

To those who disagree with the lyrics that Jay-Z's songs added to LP songs, DEAL WITH IT. It's called a MASH-UP for a reason, two totally disparate songs mashed together to create a new animal. Changing lyrics to fit to one another is against what the culture is all about. If anyone has heard songs like Nine Inch Nails/Beatles - I Want To F*** (Over Me) (which is, incidentally Closer mashed with I believe the song is Over Me I guess) or LP/Britney Spears - Faint/Toxic know that it's all about the general feel of the music and realizing that these two songs have been melded together into something that (usually works).

[Ross]

I don't like every single track on there, but that's probably coz i dont really listen to hip-hop anymore (i did when i was a little younger back in the Eminem/Dr Dre days). I like Numb/Encore and 99 Problems/Points/One Step, they go well together. It does help that the mash-up is with LP (their cool riffs etc) and that i had liked 99 Problems when Jay relased it as a single on his own. On paper the whole idea sounds a little crazy perhaps, but in practice (at least in my humble opinon) it does work.

[Jejune]

I think the songs are all right, but I'd probably tolerate it a lot less if it wasn't Linkin Park, I won't be buying the album any time soon...

[silver.flames13]

I actually like it.
I'm not much of a hip-hop-rap fan, but my little brother is and he was the one that actually pointed out that LP was doing a CD with Jay-Z.
He wont admit this, but LP is the only band he'll listen to outside of his usual stuff.
Anyway, I personally think LP has the right to take their time with a new album. any band does.
Its hard work to come up with new songs and music/beats for them. You can't really expect someone to just pull an album out of their ass for the sake of not upsetting the fans.
I myself can live with what I have now (HT, M, CC, LIT, ReA) and just wait patiently for the next album.
*shrugs*
It's been said already, but everyone has their own opinion and their own level of patience.


~*Silver

[hYbr1d_tH30rY_723]

I liked Numb / Encore ... a hell of a lot of ppl didnt .. dunno y ... i thought it was good... got the album cos I thought it would be good .... didnt like it too much after hearing all of it .... decided to keep it cos well its Linkin park ... Now when I look back on all of it its kinda an ok album .. i guess i grew to like it

[pehchaz_the molester]

what the crap is wrong with collision course? it is the best mash-up album i have ever heard!

actually, make that the only mash-up album! :D

[Minus Xero]

Originally posted by pehchaz_the molester@Mar 15 2005, 05:03 AM
what the crap is wrong with collision course? it is the best mash-up album i have ever heard!

actually, make that the only mash-up album! :D
Hahaha WRONG.

Check out The Grey Album by DangerMouse. it's Jay-Z's Black Album and The Beatles' White Album, which actually brought the whole Mash-Up craze to light.

They could have done a much better job on the instrumentals in CC.

[Doctor Manhattan]

Originally posted by pehchaz_the molester@Mar 15 2005, 05:03 AM
what the crap is wrong with collision course? it is the best mash-up album i have ever heard!

actually, make that the only mash-up album! :D
You can't judge an entire type of music if you've only heard one album or song from it.

[No more gods]

Yeah but what i am waiting for is something's really new, no remix
Linkin please let us listen to sth new, new
new songs , new sadness
Where are they? :mike:

[Minus Xero]

Originally posted by No more gods@Mar 15 2005, 10:33 PM
Yeah but what i am waiting for is something's really new, no remix
Linkin please let us listen to sth new, new
new songs , new sadness
Where are they? :mike:
Um... go look up Rock and Roll (Could Never Hip-Hop Like This) and Walking Dead.

[Doctor Manhattan]

I think he/she means actual Linkin Park songs, not collaborations.

[Hobbitgirl]

When i heard Numb/Encore on the radio the first time ... i thoght that was the worst thing i've ever heard! But than i liked it and decided to buy the Collision Course:who knows maybe the other songs are not too bad as they are told about!- that's to the question about 280 000 sold copies - the people just wondering if the other songs are as bad as Numb/Encore or they better or evenworse?
I was shocked when i heard In the end/izzo!!!!!!! How could they do that? In the end is such a cool song and they've turned it into the real SHIT!!!!
Well despite that Collision Course is the worst LP album i liked there two songs: Numb/Encore and Dirt off your shoulder/Lying from you. Theu are not good the're just the best songs on that album B)

[Minus Xero]

Originally posted by Hobbitgirl@Mar 20 2005, 12:43 PM
When i heard Numb/Encore on the radio the first time ... i thoght that was the worst thing i've ever heard! But than i liked it and decided to buy the Collision Course:who knows maybe the other songs are not too bad as they are told about!- that's to the question about 280 000 sold copies - the people just wondering if the other songs are as bad as Numb/Encore or they better or evenworse?
I was shocked when i heard In the end/izzo!!!!!!! How could they do that? In the end is such a cool song and they've turned it into the real SHIT!!!!
Well despite that Collision Course is the worst LP album i liked there two songs: Numb/Encore and Dirt off your shoulder/Lying from you. Theu are not good the're just the best songs on that album B)
Well remember it isn't just an LP album, it's also for the JZ fans as well... so you need the manditory HOVA material in the hizzle.

[Ross]

for sheezy, my neezy.

[Creep]

I dont really like Collision Course myself. The first time I heard Jay-Z rap the words "Cookin’ raw with the Brooklyn boys" from Numb/Encore I felt a little sick ^_^ I just didnt think LP would do this to me :( The only song that I enjoy listening to would be Points Of Authority/99 Problems/One Step Closer because I find it a bit funny :teehee:

[Painflow]

i like it(it's shit man) :lol:
Hey we got to listen to linkin park not to Jay-Z(Gay-Z)
Jay-Z is shit
but LP is great so make your own decision i think it's was a bad idea and i hope it won't happen again :angry:

[Muri]

No,I didn't like it.
Heck,I didn't like it AT ALL.

[Scotty]

Originally posted by Painflow@Apr 9 2005, 05:31 PM
Hey we got to listen to linkin park not to Jay-Z(Gay-Z)
:o

If you hate CC so much, why do you have the cover as your avatar? ;)

[Debus]

I've only heard the singles but that was anough to tell me i didn't want this album. I hate Jay-Z with a passion so i wasn't best pleased when LP did a collaboration with him. Fair enough if they like that kind of stlye though

[[Th3 Wkng De@d]]

Originally posted by Omar™@Jan 1 2005, 09:43 PM
Ditto. I actually was so turned off by the three tracks I heard, I haven't bothered to listen to the whole thing.

However, Collision Course jumped back into #8 on Billboard with another 280,000 copies. So apparently, a lot of people disagree with us.
Dude, it's only jumping up because of Numb / Encore. That's like, the only track that many people have only heard. If they heard all of the other songs, it would be going down.

[Scotty]

I don't think much of CC myself, but LP and Jay-Z did well to put the EP and the show together in such a small space of time.

[MeLiS_]

i bought it today, it's a little bit late but you know, money.. :D

i think it isn't great or something, but their performance was awesome!! i've never seen mike like that(he smiled during the concert), he looks so happy.. the crowd too, all of them must be great fans.. when chaz shaked their hand, a red rose appeared.. :P they all said the same in the end, 'it was funny'.. that'z all..

[Minus Xero]

Originally posted by [Th3 Wkng De@d]+Apr 9 2005, 12:08 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE ([Th3 Wkng De@d] @ Apr 9 2005, 12:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Omar™@Jan 1 2005, 09:43 PM
Ditto. I actually was so turned off by the three tracks I heard, I haven't bothered to listen to the whole thing.

However, Collision Course jumped back into #8 on Billboard with another 280,000 copies. So apparently, a lot of people disagree with us.
Dude, it's only jumping up because of Numb / Encore. That's like, the only track that many people have only heard. If they heard all of the other songs, it would be going down. [/b][/quote]
But seeing as Collision Course is going up, of course people are listening to the other tracks. It's not like you buy a CD for one song.

Tool.

[Painflow]

Originally posted by Dean+Apr 9 2005, 05:34 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Dean @ Apr 9 2005, 05:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Painflow@Apr 9 2005, 05:31 PM
Hey we got to listen to linkin park not to Jay-Z(Gay-Z)
:o

If you hate CC so much, why do you have the cover as your avatar? ;) [/b][/quote]



well Dean i gave my friend to make this avatar gay-z not jay-z and he can't do it so he tried with his other friends and i don't want to post without avatar :angry:

[Todd]

Originally posted by Painflow@Apr 9 2005, 11:31 AM
i like it(it's shit man) :lol:
Hey we got to listen to linkin park not to Jay-Z(Gay-Z)
Jay-Z is shit
but LP is great so make your own decision i think it's was a bad idea and i hope it won't happen again :angry:
And you are warned for using homophobic language. You're lucky I'm in a good mood, I'm only giving you 1 warning even though there are 2 offenses.

[Painflow]

i'm sorry i guess i was over the line in the end it's linkin park...a half of it :lol: B)

[Gluez]

It is fine for me... I like every single tracks in collision course album... ^_^

[gupie]

I dis like collision course the lyrics really have nothing in common

[Minus Xero]

Originally posted by gupie@May 9 2005, 01:15 PM
I dis like collision course the lyrics really have nothing in common
Welcome to the world of Mash-Ups.

[User Name]

Rhetorical question. Are the lyrics in mash-ups supposed to have something in common? I mean, I've heard mash-ups of Sean Paul and Outkast, Kelis and Micheal Jackson, The Beatles and The Beastie Boys to name a few.

[Minus Xero]

Originally posted by Cameron@May 9 2005, 04:47 PM
Rhetorical question. Are the lyrics in mash-ups supposed to have something in common? I mean, I've heard mash-ups of Sean Paul and Outkast, Kelis and Micheal Jackson, The Beatles and The Beastie Boys to name a few.
Not really, there aren't any set rules for mash-ups, as long as it sounds cool.

I mean, an example I use a lot, The Beatles and Jay-Z's mash-up through Dangermouse is completely different than any other mash-up. It uses Jay-Z acapellas and Beatles music from the White Album. In that case no Beatles lyrics were used (except for the occasion song...)

All that matters is if it sounds cool. Otherwise, what's the point?

[Awesome*Kryptonite]

Originally posted by LP_Freak_2735@Jan 1 2005, 12:05 AM
I don't mean to bash it, but does anyone else agree that it's not good?

It's Linkin Park, so it's not horrible, but I don't like it.* :unsure:* :wth:
I don't like Collision Course is lacks in many of the songs. Jay-z does not give any of the power that the songs orginaly had. I don't like some Mash-ups becuase most of the songs that get mashed-up they lose their special qualities that we came to know and love. I also lothe Jay-z i think this Album was a waste of Album i think LP should make a Remix Album on Meteora that would be AWESOME!

[1200techniques]

I was dissapointed, put me off LP
Damn it im sick of remixes and shit! I WANT SOMETHING NEW!

[artificial]

Now I don't mean that LP is bad,but I just hate that mash-up.
I really really love Linkin Park's ...usual music/songs,and I really enjoyed ReAnimation too,but CC was just soo not LP.
The lyrics didn't match at all,I mean the rap lyrics and original Linkin Park lyrics. They weren't 'talking' about the same subject at all.

I don't have CC(borrowed my friends album.),and I really don't plan buying it either.

Though I'm really waiting for their next album. :D

[Minus Xero]

This is so relevant, I just had to repost it into this topic.
----
Okay something that's been getting me is how so many people complain about the lyrics not matching, or how one song is ruining the other... but listening to it like that is just wrong. A mash-up IS NOT SUPPOSED TO MATCH. THAT IS NOT THE POINT OF A MASH-UP. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A FUN PROJECT. Like what Dangermouse did with Jay-Z and the Beatles.

To fully enjoy the musicality and creative genius of the CD, I recommend you do this.

Get Jay-Z's albums, Linkin Park's albums, and Collision Course.

First, listen to Lying From You by LP.
Then listen to Dirt Off Your Shoulder by Jay-Z.

Then listen to the mash-up of it.

Rinse, repeat.

The project is fun because it takes songs you usually wouldn't see together and meshes them into a new animal.

The best way to see how two different songs can be different is Numb and Encore.

That's my 2 cents.

[hybrid_fan]

I liked only 3 sons:numb/encore
dirt off your shoulder/lying from you
points of authority/99 problems/one step close

[LP_Freak_2735]

Wow, I didn't think this would still be up here.

@MinusXero: You got the point across. I understand what you are saying, but is it okay if I just don't like it?

<3 Elaine

[Geki]

I liked Collsion Course. Especially Jigga What/Faint; awesome!! It was cool, better the Reanimation which was sort of a rap to LP's sruff.

[Boo]

I don't know I'm not big on it, but I like the Numb/Encore song. The others just annoy me.

[coma]

I only like Numb/Encore and Dirt of your sholders/Lying from you.But I think it was a stupid ideea,and I never liked Jay-Z and still don't......

[amanda_diane]

I really like collision course

[Christopher]

Don't really like it but i think it was something they had to do, to get more connections to make Fort Minor, i'll wait till FM comes out then i'll see what i think is true.
Hope FM is going to be good cause Collision Course was bad.

[prototype_angel]

Collision course is garbaeg. It lacks the thing that helped LP to the top-rock. It's that simple, Lp's no longer a rock band. Mike Shinoda is absolute genius and he was the one responsible for all the tiny bits of hip-hop that made their other songs such hits. But LP had one thing that Jay-Z lacked, melody.

The melody was missing. Collisions always leads to destruction.
[Now playing in wmp: Easier to run, what a song!]
Mr. Shinoda can go off with fort minor, but he needs to add the bit of hip hop so carefully and brilliantly placed so it blends in with the rest of the songs.

This is turning out to be another reanimation. LP should write a set of songs and spend more time on writing new songs and releasing the songs.

[Justmuse]

I agree with u ;)

[Dart]

the songs are quite ok,but who is mike kidding-"it's just a project.it's fun"...YEAH RIGHT,like we don't know cc was tooootal comercialism...
i mean, i love lp,but you just can't say this wasn't made only to pick up some cash.

[Minus Xero]

Originally posted by Dart@Jul 11 2005, 02:23 AM
the songs are quite ok,but who is mike kidding-"it's just a project.it's fun"...YEAH RIGHT,like we don't know cc was tooootal comercialism...
i mean, i love lp,but you just can't say this wasn't made only to pick up some cash.
You DO know they didn't get any cash, right?

When you have Warner, Jay-Z's label (which name evades me at the moment), AND MTV a part of it... it's kinda hard to get money when all three of them are in the deal as well.

[Louis]

Originally posted by Minus Xero+Jul 11 2005, 12:48 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Minus Xero @ Jul 11 2005, 12:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Dart@Jul 11 2005, 02:23 AM
the songs are quite ok,but who is mike kidding-"it's just a project.it's fun"...YEAH RIGHT,like we don't know cc was tooootal comercialism...
i mean, i love lp,but you just can't say this wasn't made only to pick up some cash.
You DO know they didn't get any cash, right?

When you have Warner, Jay-Z's label (which name evades me at the moment), AND MTV a part of it... it's kinda hard to get money when all three of them are in the deal as well. [/b][/quote]
Roccafella, my friend.

[Minus Xero]

Originally posted by GiriosXeni+Jul 11 2005, 07:09 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (GiriosXeni @ Jul 11 2005, 07:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by -Minus Xero@Jul 11 2005, 12:48 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Dart@Jul 11 2005, 02:23 AM
the songs are quite ok,but who is mike kidding-"it's just a project.it's fun"...YEAH RIGHT,like we don't know cc was tooootal comercialism...
i mean, i love lp,but you just can't say this wasn't made only to pick up some cash.
You DO know they didn't get any cash, right?

When you have Warner, Jay-Z's label (which name evades me at the moment), AND MTV a part of it... it's kinda hard to get money when all three of them are in the deal as well.
Roccafella, my friend. [/b][/quote]
Shh, it's too early and I was half asleep.

[forgottenlp52]

Im sure they got some money, just not as much as they shouldve got.

[Minus Xero]

Originally posted by forgottenlp52@Jul 11 2005, 10:44 AM
Im sure they got some money, just not as much as they shouldve got.
Therefore there's no way they didn't do it for the money.

Take an album, split it between two record companies, a television corporation, two artists, and countless other inbetweens and there's not a lot of money.

They did it for fun. The end.

[JJ]

Originally posted by Minus Xero+Jul 11 2005, 05:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Minus Xero @ Jul 11 2005, 05:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--forgottenlp52@Jul 11 2005, 10:44 AM
Im sure they got some money, just not as much as they shouldve got.
Therefore there's no way they didn't do it for the money.

Take an album, split it between two record companies, a television corporation, two artists, and countless other inbetweens and there's not a lot of money.

They did it for fun. The end. [/b][/quote]
word.

[Dart]

Originally posted by JJ87+Jul 11 2005, 05:40 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JJ87 @ Jul 11 2005, 05:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by -Minus Xero@Jul 11 2005, 05:18 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--forgottenlp52@Jul 11 2005, 10:44 AM
Im sure they got some money, just not as much as they shouldve got.
Therefore there's no way they didn't do it for the money.

Take an album, split it between two record companies, a television corporation, two artists, and countless other inbetweens and there's not a lot of money.

They did it for fun. The end.
word. [/b][/quote]
well,ok,don't kill me...

[JJ]

i like collsion course a lot - its a bit of fun. something you listen to when your in the mood for it. its not an album you can listen to all day long 24/7