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Luke/Hellflame
12-27-2004, 05:03 PM
Here in the UK a statistical analysis has shown that an increadible 72% of teens aged 13-17 who attend secondary school (or high school) suffer stress syndromes because of work pressure for exams in schools.It seems that many students are saying that the work load and homework policys of some schools are just too great and there is no time for an active social life even on the weekends.The stress of work loads tend to lead many teens to depression and low grades of work,however the DFV denounce this and claim;

"Students aged 13-18 need the nessecary education that is already being given to them,headteachers of schools expect students to do 2 hours of homework a night to keep up on their rivision.Breaktimes and lunchtimes are enough to stop stress from progressing".

In my opinion there is simply too much to expect of us for our exams,the pressure to get good grades is simply overwelming and 2 hours of homework seems a little excessive,1 hour is more then enough to me.Also if we spend so much time doing work then we will never get out of our houses and catch up on our freinds which will lead to depression/

What does everyone else think?

Razan
12-27-2004, 05:27 PM
I don't think the exams and good grades pressure us.
I think it's the peer pressure, friends and image comes first for most people so the studying becomes harder and sometimes they fail just to fit in. Stupid, but sadly true.
I think all the depression is from trying to go out with your friends, having fun and trying to please with good grades which is extremly hard...

goso88
12-27-2004, 06:06 PM
Two hours, only? They've got to be kidding me. That sounds like heaven. I usually spend five hours after school, if I'm lucky, doing homework. It takes me two hours just to get my math homework alone done. That doesn't even count the studying I do for the SATs and exams at school. Recently, I spent sixteen hours on a stupid history paper. Homework plagues me wherever I go *sighs*. I must have done more than eight hours of homework during winter break already, and I still have a math project and an analysis paper ahead of me. Taking so much time out of my adolescent life to do homework is a pain in the butt, and it sometimes makes me not so much a great person to be around, but generally I can deal. With caffine and a temper tanturm over my keyboard here and there along the way to help me out :lol: .

A lot of times, though, I think the stress level is a little bit higher than appropriate... :mellow:

Andrea
12-27-2004, 06:20 PM
2 hours of homework, my ass. :lol:

Stress and school goes hand-in-hand. I always feel pressure to get good grades but that's because my parents expect it. There is no way that I spend 2 hours on homework. I spend usually 5-6 hours. It's insane.

It seems that many students are saying that the work load and homework policys of some schools are just too great and there is no time for an active social life even on the weekends.

I semi-agree with that. Many times I have had so much homework that I would waste my weekend doing it instead of having fun. Sometimes though I do my homework on weeknights in advance so I can have the weekend to chill. I don't do that enough though. :lol:

On the other hand, I don't really care that much anymore because in May, I'm graduating and I don't have to worry about homework, exams and school stress ever again. ^_^

Razan
12-27-2004, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by Andrea@Dec 27 2004, 06:20 PM
On the other hand, I don't really care that much anymore because in May, I'm graduating and I don't have to worry about homework, exams and school stress ever again. ^_^
Hehe, now you have college stress which I heard from my brother is harder :lol:

goso88
12-27-2004, 06:34 PM
Hehe, now you have college stress which I heard from my brother is harder

:lol:

Andrea
12-27-2004, 06:37 PM
Originally posted by Razan+Dec 27 2004, 01:32 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Razan @ Dec 27 2004, 01:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Andrea@Dec 27 2004, 06:20 PM
On the other hand, I don't really care that much anymore because in May, I'm graduating and I don't have to worry about homework, exams and school stress ever again. ^_^
Hehe, now you have college stress which I heard from my brother is harder :lol: [/b][/quote]
I'm not going to college. ;)

emmmers
12-27-2004, 07:36 PM
If anyone should be complaining about educational stress it should be the Chinese.

Razan
12-27-2004, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by Andrea+Dec 27 2004, 06:37 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Andrea @ Dec 27 2004, 06:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by -Razan@Dec 27 2004, 01:32 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Andrea@Dec 27 2004, 06:20 PM
On the other hand, I don't really care that much anymore because in May, I'm graduating and I don't have to worry about homework, exams and school stress ever again. ^_^
Hehe, now you have college stress which I heard from my brother is harder :lol:
I'm not going to college. ;) [/b][/quote]
Fine University same thing, nearly! Or work, that's even harder. I'm just pulling your leg, my brother makes things sound worse than they really are :lol:

@ When.Karma.Attacks: I totally agree, Korea and Japan too! My Korean friend learned the things we are doing in math now 3 years ago!

goso88
12-27-2004, 08:13 PM
If anyone should be complaining about educational stress it should be the Chinese.

Oh yes, thats definetely true. And a whole bunch of other kids living in asian countries, like Razan said.

Whimsicality
12-28-2004, 01:46 AM
You guys need to read "Dumbing Us Down" by John Gatto. It's a very short (especially if you skip the goddamned three indroductions) collection of essays on why the USA school system sucks. I assume a lot of it will apply to the UK school system, but I don't know exactly how you guys work over there so I can't go into specifics.

Atsuzen
12-28-2004, 04:28 AM
Originally posted by When.Karma.Attacks@Dec 28 2004, 03:36 AM
If anyone should be complaining about educational stress it should be the Chinese.
Too true. I'm glad my parents didn't send me to a Chinese school ><.


Whoa, you guys spend 5-6 hours on homework? Geez, I must be the lucky one here. Only about an hour or so ... sometimes less that that. :lol:

Shade
12-28-2004, 04:51 AM
Personally, it is my belief that most of the hype over homework is really just the students not wanting to do the work. I do agree however that 5 to 6 hours is excessive, in which case it is the teacher's job to handle the education in class better, so that less homework is necessary. I guess I think its a balance of these two things.

Did I complain about homework during high-school? Absolutely. But in all honesty, if you go to college, and don't do a BS major (ie. Business), you will do more homework than you did in highschool. If you work a constant job, you will also do more work (or more strenuous work).

Regardless, I tend to have little sympathy for highschool students anymore, and I just graduated last spring. Are there problems? Yeah, but its up to us to deal with it, either finding ways to accomplish tasks faster, or talking to the teacher, and honestly, I just think too many students are just not motivated enough to take that responsibility.

goso88
12-28-2004, 05:18 AM
Yeah, but its up to us to deal with it, either finding ways to accomplish tasks faster, or talking to the teacher, and honestly, I just think too many students are just not motivated enough to take that responsibility.

Motivated enough to work 16 hours on a history paper in the space of three days, but not brave enough to challenge the teacher. Oh how cowardice sucks... :(

Todd
12-28-2004, 05:26 AM
Everyone bitches about too much homework and tests, and yes, they suck, but the way I see it, I worked my ass off to get high grades and to get into college, and I'd be pissed if some kid who slacked off, got bad grades and did everything half-assed got into the same college as me with no problems.

Teachers don't give you grades, you earn the grades. Now if you want good grades, you will do whatever the teacher tells you to do, but if you're satisfied with Ds and Fs, then by all means, sit on your ass and don't study and do any homework.

Shade
12-28-2004, 05:33 AM
Originally posted by goso88@Dec 28 2004, 05:18 AM
Yeah, but its up to us to deal with it, either finding ways to accomplish tasks faster, or talking to the teacher, and honestly, I just think too many students are just not motivated enough to take that responsibility.

Motivated enough to work 16 hours on a history paper in the space of three days, but not brave enough to challenge the teacher. Oh how cowardice sucks... :(
4 hours a day? Not that big of a deal. Does it suck? Yeah. If the load is too much, talk to the teacher. I'm not saying it won't make a difference. I'm saying its up to the students to find a way.

goso88
12-28-2004, 07:48 AM
4 hours a day? Not that big of a deal. Does it suck? Yeah. If the load is too much, talk to the teacher. I'm not saying it won't make a difference. I'm saying its up to the students to find a way.


What the heck? *looks around, confused* :blink:

(Edit) Lol, I get what you're saying now. Its more like five+ hours a day each day on history alone (5x3=15). Since I suck at math, it always drains two+ more hours. Add chemistry and AP english on top of that, and another 3 hours if I'm lucky. SAT academy for two hours. That adds up to 12 hours of studying and doing school stuff. Which means I averaged four hours of sleep every day during the week of that evil history paper. Wow. I'm proud of myself for pulling that off :lol: . Huge sense of accomplishment. Talking to the teacher is not my way of doing things; I just put in the extra hours when I need to. Like I said, when I have more stress than I think I can handle, I cope by throwing an occassional temper tanturm on the keyboard. And bitching. Because bitching is fun.

I'm sorry I've inflicted you with my study schedule for those three ridiculous days; its just that I worked so hard that week, and I can't stand to have that amount of work thought of as , tch, it was just four hours. It makes me feel slightly hysterical ;)

Evi
12-28-2004, 10:07 AM
Omg. My school ends at 4.30 PM , when I'm home it's 5.00 PM. Then I still have to eat and do my 2 hours homework. That's way to long for me.

Danielle
12-28-2004, 03:32 PM
I don't mind doing homework because I know that if I don't do it then i'm not going to get the grades I want so I can get into uni!

Razan
12-28-2004, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by fieke@Dec 28 2004, 10:07 AM
Omg. My school ends at 4.30 PM , when I'm home it's 5.00 PM. Then I still have to eat and do my 2 hours homework. That's way to long for me.
WOW...Do you live in East Asia? :P

peripeteia
12-28-2004, 04:10 PM
Originally posted by When.Karma.Attacks@Dec 28 2004, 04:36 AM
If anyone should be complaining about educational stress it should be the Chinese.
i'm a chinese. meh. :P

as for the amount of stress in school, i find it pretty much manageable. maybe its because that i'm studying in a polytechnic where the enviroment is less stressful than a college.

but sometimes the peer pressure and the desire to get good grades is enough to drive me up the ceiling. for example, my social psychology essay takes up to 15% of my final grade, which is ALOT. but other than that...its okay.


i got a feeling that many of you guys dont understand what i'm talking about. but whatever.

elvenpirate101
12-28-2004, 06:04 PM
At the moment (I'm not in high school yet, almost though) I think even some middle school work is a little large. One of my teachers expects us to get three projects done in under one month, which is a little much to ask for of some 13-14 year olds, especially when some are trying to partake in sports and such. I'm thinking about taking AP classes when I get to high school as I'm in advanced right now, instead of taking the higher level classes where you must get excellent grades in order to pass, plus they expect you to be in sports with up to 3 or 4 hours of homework :wth:

But I really think it all depends on what school you go to.

Debus
12-28-2004, 07:48 PM
I agree with what you're saying 100%. I myself am getting overly stressed with all this school work and all the homework. My grades are slipping and i just can't keep on top of it all at times. My school sucks as my headmaster has pretty much banned fun, it's all work work work so that's all we ever do. Mind numbingly boring work with no fun. And all the time teachers rattle on about the importance of exams is enough to send you into a mental breakdown. I really think they need to lay off us. So many of my relatives have told me that 'They never had this much pressure on them and work set for them when they were in school'

And that thing about 2 hours homework every night. That is such complete BS. I really would like to see them do two hours of homework every night and still have a life. I have better things to do with my time than work work work.

emmmers
12-28-2004, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by peripeteia+Dec 28 2004, 08:10 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (peripeteia @ Dec 28 2004, 08:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--When.Karma.Attacks@Dec 28 2004, 04:36 AM
If anyone should be complaining about educational stress it should be the Chinese.
i'm a chinese. meh. :P

as for the amount of stress in school, i find it pretty much manageable. maybe its because that i'm studying in a polytechnic where the enviroment is less stressful than a college.

but sometimes the peer pressure and the desire to get good grades is enough to drive me up the ceiling. for example, my social psychology essay takes up to 15% of my final grade, which is ALOT. but other than that...its okay.


i got a feeling that many of you guys dont understand what i'm talking about. but whatever. [/b][/quote]
Have you been to like, Northeast China like Fushun? My cousin's over there, and I know it's killer hard.

Burningsoul
12-28-2004, 10:38 PM
If ya think about it, homework is pointless. As long as ya do well in class, and then revise for ya exams then ya should be alright. Homework in my opinion is just a waste of time, and personally i only do it if i know the teacher will go mental at me if i dont :P

emmmers
12-28-2004, 10:59 PM
Originally posted by Burningsoul@Dec 28 2004, 02:38 PM
If ya think about it, homework is pointless. As long as ya do well in class, and then revise for ya exams then ya should be alright. Homework in my opinion is just a waste of time, and personally i only do it if i know the teacher will go mental at me if i dont :P
Just like how we're gonna forget more than half of what we learn anyways. Only point of studying most of the stuff are for tests. And after the tests everyone just jams it out of their brain to make room for more useless stuff.

If you aren't looking to be Ken Jennings when you grow up, there's totally no point to high school. Get the basics in elementary, skip to college, get a job.

lofton0788
12-29-2004, 01:06 AM
Education is important...It's just that high schools are all filled with kids who either don't care about it or are too bored with what they are learning. Maybe if we started learning important things in high school and then let us learn the extraneous stuff in college, more kids would try!

Sylar
12-29-2004, 02:28 AM
School is stressing and hard to deal with most of the time. Especially when you work your ass off to try and get into a good college and get a good job so you can provide for a family these days. It costs so much money just to have a DECENT life.

Shade
12-29-2004, 03:00 AM
Originally posted by When.Karma.Attacks+Dec 28 2004, 10:59 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (When.Karma.Attacks @ Dec 28 2004, 10:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Burningsoul@Dec 28 2004, 02:38 PM
If ya think about it, homework is pointless. As long as ya do well in class, and then revise for ya exams then ya should be alright. Homework in my opinion is just a waste of time, and personally i only do it if i know the teacher will go mental at me if i dont :P
Just like how we're gonna forget more than half of what we learn anyways. Only point of studying most of the stuff are for tests. And after the tests everyone just jams it out of their brain to make room for more useless stuff.

If you aren't looking to be Ken Jennings when you grow up, there's totally no point to high school. Get the basics in elementary, skip to college, get a job. [/b][/quote]
Well yes that would be true if we all wanted to be mindless business majors. But some of us don't want that. Highschool is extremely important college preporatory work (or should be). How do you think people are supposed to survive in rigorous engineering programs without highschool math? How are you supposed to impress employers with your speach and writing skills without going through highschool english? How are you supposed to have any clue about what our country, and others, are built on without the history?

Seriously, think about you're saying.

Perhaps you would enjoy an ignorant life. I would not.

emmmers
12-29-2004, 09:15 AM
Originally posted by Shade@Dec 28 2004, 07:00 PM
Well yes that would be true if we all wanted to be mindless business majors. But some of us don't want that. Highschool is extremely important college preporatory work (or should be). How do you think people are supposed to survive in rigorous engineering programs without highschool math? How are you supposed to impress employers with your speach and writing skills without going through highschool english? How are you supposed to have any clue about what our country, and others, are built on without the history?

Seriously, think about you're saying.

Perhaps you would enjoy an ignorant life. I would not.
I'm not anti-education at all, all I'm saying is that more than half the stuff they cram into our brains are useless since we're gonna forget it anyways. The whole system's based on testing, once the tests are over no one bothers to remember what order the Frederick the Greats in Prussia came in.

Maybe its different for different schools, but at my school I know they go into way too much detail. It's all based on grades and tests, not real learning.

peripeteia
12-29-2004, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by When.Karma.Attacks+Dec 29 2004, 04:52 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (When.Karma.Attacks @ Dec 29 2004, 04:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by -peripeteia@Dec 28 2004, 08:10 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--When.Karma.Attacks@Dec 28 2004, 04:36 AM
If anyone should be complaining about educational stress it should be the Chinese.
i'm a chinese. meh. :P

as for the amount of stress in school, i find it pretty much manageable. maybe its because that i'm studying in a polytechnic where the enviroment is less stressful than a college.

but sometimes the peer pressure and the desire to get good grades is enough to drive me up the ceiling. for example, my social psychology essay takes up to 15% of my final grade, which is ALOT. but other than that...its okay.


i got a feeling that many of you guys dont understand what i'm talking about. but whatever.
Have you been to like, Northeast China like Fushun? My cousin's over there, and I know it's killer hard. [/b][/quote]
I havent been to North East China but I've had the chance the visit an arts school in Beijing a few years back. hell. the students have to take at least TEN subjects.

Razan
12-29-2004, 10:07 AM
Originally posted by peripeteia+Dec 29 2004, 09:44 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (peripeteia @ Dec 29 2004, 09:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by -When.Karma.Attacks@Dec 29 2004, 04:52 AM
Originally posted by -peripeteia@Dec 28 2004, 08:10 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--When.Karma.Attacks@Dec 28 2004, 04:36 AM
If anyone should be complaining about educational stress it should be the Chinese.
i'm a chinese. meh. :P

as for the amount of stress in school, i find it pretty much manageable. maybe its because that i'm studying in a polytechnic where the enviroment is less stressful than a college.

but sometimes the peer pressure and the desire to get good grades is enough to drive me up the ceiling. for example, my social psychology essay takes up to 15% of my final grade, which is ALOT. but other than that...its okay.


i got a feeling that many of you guys dont understand what i'm talking about. but whatever.
Have you been to like, Northeast China like Fushun? My cousin's over there, and I know it's killer hard.
I havent been to North East China but I've had the chance the visit an arts school in Beijing a few years back. hell. the students have to take at least TEN subjects. [/b][/quote]
WOW, when I grow up I have to take 6!
For now it's 10 subjects we are being examed on and 2 others we don't need exams for (Art,P.E)

Arhaz
12-31-2004, 12:12 PM
it's not school and exams that actually push us to the edge evry time...it tends to be ourselves. actually everything that we do, comes down to our responsibility. yes the burden of studies was very little compared to the fifties, sixties and seventies....but they never knew how to play x box and ps2 either...so yeh, there is a benefit too. in those days, they weren't any sweet ferrari F50's to admire. basically, it's man in general who has been pushing himself and every individual would want to keep up. so we are the ones who actually expect a lot from ourselves....sometimes, it's not us to blame but the environment of competition....so really....only solution tends to be to follow a regular and efficient time pattern and really practice it good.



w00t! i'm philosophical.............. :lol:

Holiday
01-01-2005, 03:55 AM
my highschool was a breeze. i didnt have to try at all. i mean i should have tried a lil harder to pass my AP tests, but i had no real problem w/ grades.

i know some days i wouldnt even do any hw.

i guess my problem is that i was too cockey and thought that i knew everything already and felt that i didnt need to work as hard as i should have.

but still my school was soooooooooooooo dumn. i only took one regular class (american gov't) and i was bored to tears almost everyday. we didnt learn anything at all. America's school systems suck sooooooooo bad!

im so happy im in the University now.

and yes you do have to work a lot harder in the University enviornment. w/e anyone says.