Earthquake hits Asia

[Chris(tmas)]

The initial quake, measuring 8.9 in magnitude, struck about 100 miles (160 km) off the coast of Indonesia's Sumatra island around 7 a.m. local time, according to the U.S. Geological Survey's National Earthquake Information Center.

Over 1,500 people in Sri Lanka were killed after tidal waves devastated the country's eastern coast, according to Colombo police.

Officials in the eastern district of Batticaloa reported 1,032 fatalities there. In Trincomalee, there were reports of 320 deaths. Further south in popular tourist resort of Galle, there were around 200 deaths, according to police and hospital sources.

Several districts in the south have still not reported, and authorities fear the death toll could rise. The tidal waves also swept away a high security prison in Matara, in southern Sri Lanka, allowing 200 prisoners to escape.

Eyewitnesses in eastern Sri Lankan port city of Tricomalee reported waves as high as 40 feet, hitting inland as far as half a mile.

India's Interior Minister Shivraj Patil said at least 1,000 Indians were killed as a result of the massive waves. A resident of Madras in Tamil Nadu district -- one of the hardest hit areas -- said he witnessed several people being swept away by a tidal wave there.

In southern Thailand, some 200 were killed on the island of Phiphi, between Thailand's coastal area and the resort island of Phuket, where at least 48 were killed, according to the deputy governor. One witness said Phuket's Laguna Beach resort area is "completely gone."

NEIC geophysicist Don Blakeman said there was also a report that an entire coastal village in Thailand was destroyed by a tsunami.

Over 450 people were killed Indonesia by the quake and the following tidal waves -- many of them in Aceh, in northern Sumatra, about 100 miles from the quake's epicenter, according to local reports.

The earthquake is classified as "great" -- the strongest possible classification given by the NEIC.

Blakeman said all of the tsunamis were triggered by the initial quake, and not the nine aftershocks.

One major aftershock, measuring 7.3 in magnitude, struck about 200 miles (300 km) northwest of Banda Aceh -- on Sumatra's northernmost tip -- over four hours after the initial quake, according to the NEIC. The rest of the aftershocks measured under 6.1 in magnitude.

The NEIC expects the quake to produce hundreds of smaller aftershocks, under 4.6 magnitude, and thousands smaller than that.

"A quake of this size has some pretty serious effects," he said.

He explained the quake was the energy released from "a very large rupture in the earth's crust" over 600 miles (1,000 km) long.

It was the strongest earthquake to hit since March 1964, when a 9.2 quake struck near Alaska's Prince William Sound.


CNN.com (http://edition.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/asiapcf/12/26/asia.quake/index.html)


WOW.

My dad said that it was 1000 miles and more then 1500 km long. The earthquake started in the ocean and was felt in more then 5 countries.

[peripeteia]

i live in asia and the country that i'm now living in [Singapore] has felt some of the tremors as well. its just... :blink:

the fact that it triggered huge tidal waves is just scary..

[Phantom Duck]

It's on Greek television too. At least 3,000 deaths.

[Razan]

WOW! I'm speechless, my friends are crying right now...I feel so bad for them, I hope none of their families get hurt... :(

[Chris(tmas)]

more then 3000 are dead, and more then 6000 people are wounded.

[Whimsicality]

Originally posted by Chris(tmas)@Dec 26 2004, 02:21 PM
more then 3000 are dead, and more then 6000 people are wounded.
Holy shit, that's terrible.

[Mark]

That's absolutely crazy! :o

[Tomi]

Wow. That's crazy.

[Willstar]

Whoa...

[Messy Marj]

That is one fucking big earthquake. Update: at least 7500 dead people Fuck man...

[Mr. Benzedrine]

The latest i have now heard is 11000 :( < My Condolences to everyone who has been affected.

[Evil Angel]

Originally posted by Chris(tmas)@Dec 26 2004, 11:51 PM
more then 3000 are dead, and more then 6000 people are wounded.
You gotta be kidding the death toll in India itself is 3,000.The entire count is well above 11,000

[Willstar]

...

You do realize that he posted that hours upon hours ago, right?

[Atsuzen]

It's so freaky 0_o. My grandaunt felt the tremor (heh, initially she thought she was getting a little woozy and was about to faint).

8.9 on the Richter Scale is SUPER freaky! :o

[EngiShinnizle]

I live in Indonesia ( in east java ISland)
Thanx God it's not affected here ....that's scary....!!!
My Island just very close from Sumatra Island ( the Island that located near by the earhquake center) U can see it just few centimeters on map!!! Spooky.....

[Mark]

Originally posted by Rohan+Dec 26 2004, 11:30 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Rohan @ Dec 26 2004, 11:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Chris(tmas)@Dec 26 2004, 11:51 PM
more then 3000 are dead, and more then 6000 people are wounded.
You gotta be kidding the death toll in India itself is 3,000.The entire count is well above 11,000 [/b][/quote]
Current total: 12,600.

[TeMpEsT]

Originally posted by EngiShinnizle@Dec 26 2004, 11:20 PM
I live in Indonesia ( in east java ISland)
Thanx God it's not affected here ....that's scary....!!!
My Island just very close from Sumatra Island ( the Island that located near by the earhquake center) U can see it just few centimeters on map!!! Spooky.....
My great grandparents live in Java. :mellow:

That's so scary, I couldn't imagine the pandemonia.

[Doctor Manhattan]

I heard the death toll is now 14,000+.

[Messy Marj]

15000 +

[peripeteia]

death toll is now almost 23,000

its now 9.0 on the Richter scale instead of 8.9, making it the FOURTH worst earthquake since 1900.

[Messy Marj]

This is just too sad.. :(

[Evi]

It's on television and radio. 23000 people died. That's so much. Scary.

[goso88]

Omg, I can't think about this. Its too sad :( .

[Soulcrasher-X]

Damn....so sad..my condolences to all the families..

[emmmers]

Oh crap my friend's parents are in Thailand. :mellow:

[Alacrity]

That's insane. My condolences go out to the families.

[goso88]

Can anyone tell me how far inland the tidal waves traveled?

[Chris(tmas)]

death count is now 38.594.

They think that the total death is around the 75000.

[FreeYourMind]

This is fucking horrible,

I'm in china now, for an vacantion, and first we were planning to go to Phuket, I'm glad we didn't

I feel so sorry for all those people. god

[Razan]

Originally posted by Chris(tmas)@Dec 28 2004, 02:04 PM
death count is now 38.594.

They think that the total death is around the 75000.
OMG...NO WAY...I feel so sorry...it hit Oman which was right next to where I live!

It started in Indoniesia and it spread to 10 countries.

75000 without people missing or injuries! That's fucking insane!

[peripeteia]

Originally posted by goso88@Dec 28 2004, 10:30 AM
Can anyone tell me how far inland the tidal waves traveled?
i believe the earthquake started somewhere off shore indonesia, which then later caused tsunami's to sri lanka, indonesia, india, maldives, thailand, bangladesh, malaysia.

the tidal waves, or tsunami were said to be around 33ft [10 metres] high. some hotels or resorts built along the coastline were actually wiped out by the tidal waves.

[Chris(tmas)]

Originally posted by peripeteia+Dec 28 2004, 05:21 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (peripeteia @ Dec 28 2004, 05:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--goso88@Dec 28 2004, 10:30 AM
Can anyone tell me how far inland the tidal waves traveled?
i believe the earthquake started somewhere off shore indonesia, which then later caused tsunami's to sri lanka, indonesia, india, maldives, thailand, bangladesh, malaysia. [/b][/quote]
the earthquake was on a island called Sumatra :)


Yeah.. i watch the news alot :lol:

Also, there was an island that was hit too and there lived only 1500 people and 1000 people are dead.

[Willstar]

I just saw on the news that this earthquake has actually shortened the length of the Earth's day... by three microseconds.

Who figures that stuff out when hundreds of thousands of people are over there without homes because of the earthquake? I mean, seriously.

[Syphon]

this so awful, many of my friends are aisian and i really hope none of thier families got hurt.

To show just how far it spread i live in perth which is near the bottom of the west coast of australia and apparantly the waves on some of our beaches were high and some people were swept of a bridge or sumthin, that is just mad that it could reach so far.

[Luke/Hellflame]

55,000 people confrimed dead,death toll is still rising

[Luke/Hellflame]

59,000 now,it seems to go up by the minute.This is real wrath of god type stuff,my condolences to all those who have lost loved ones

[Willstar]

Please don't double post.

[Luke/Hellflame]

Oh yeah sorry about that :crashed: ^_^'

[peripeteia]

Indonesia's total death toll might reach 25,000.

Good Lord. I just want 2004 to end. 2004 is a horrid year.

[Chris(tmas)]

WHO (World Health Organisation) fears that the death toll can be doubeled by the diseases from the bad water and the people that are dead. It can take years and years to rebuild everything.

[Blaze]

Originally posted by Chris(tmas)@Dec 28 2004, 01:17 PM
WHO (World Health Organisation) fears that the death toll can be doubeled by the diseases from the bad water and the people that are dead. It can take years and years to rebuild everything.
And thats not even thinking about how long it's going to take to rebuild the economy.

[Doctor Manhattan]

Damn.

The death-toll is nearing 60,000. Wow.

And here is alittle bit of good news (I guess).

After Disaster, Asia Mulls Warning System

35 minutes ago

Top Stories - AP

By MIRANDA LEITSINGER, Associated Press Writer

BANGKOK, Thailand - The extraordinary loss of life from Sunday's earthquake and tsunami waves has prompted Asian governments to consider developing a more comprehensive and effective warning system so that more lives can be saved in future natural disasters.

Scientists nearest the quake's epicenter knew shockwaves could create tidal surges that would threaten coastal regions and shipping, but said Monday they had no way of measuring the size of the danger because a warning network like the one used in the Pacific is not installed in countries lying on the Indian Ocean.

The technology could have saved countless lives in this week's disaster by giving residents in coastal areas — especially in Sri Lanka and India, the hardest-hit nations hundreds of miles from the quake site — time to flee to higher ground.

Officials in Thailand issued the only warnings of Sunday's impending carnage — but the radio broadcasts beamed to tourist resorts in the country's south vastly underestimated the threat and a Web site caution was posted three hours after the first waves hit.

Residents in Sri Lanka — where thousands were swept away or drowned — expressed disbelief that a warning system was in place elsewhere in the world but not in the Indian Ocean region.

"This is tragic," said retired Sri Lankan air force chief Harry Goonetilleke. "There should have been such an arrangement for the region. This is absolutely not acceptable."

The magnitude 9.0 earthquake — the world's most powerful since 1964 — shifted huge geological plates beneath the ocean northwest of Indonesia's Sumatra island an hour or two after daybreak, causing a massive and sudden displacement of millions of tons of water.

Indonesian villages closest to the temblor's epicenter were swamped within minutes, but elsewhere the waves radiated outwards, gathering speed and ferocity until they made landfall.

Waves began pummeling southern Thailand about one hour after the earthquake. After 2 1/2 hours, the torrents had traveled some 1,000 miles and slammed into India and Sri Lanka. Malaysia, the Maldives, Myanmar and Bangladesh were also hit. Eventually they struck Somalia, on the east coast of Africa, 2,800 miles away.

Indonesian officials said they had no way to know that the earthquake had caused the earthquake-driven waves, or tsunamis, or how dangerous they might have been.

"Unfortunately, we have no equipment here that can warn about tsunamis," said Budi Waluyo, an official with Indonesia's Meteorology and Geophysics Agency. "The instruments are very expensive and we don't have money to buy them."

But Thammasarote Smith, a former senior forecaster at Thailand's Meteorological Department, said governments could have done much more to warn people.

"The department had up to an hour to announce the emergency message and evacuate people but they failed to do so," Thammasarote was quoted as saying in The Bangkok Post. "It is true that an earthquake is unpredictable, but a tsunami, which occurs after an earthquake, is predictable."

Kathawudhi Marlairojanasiri, the meteorological department's chief weather forecaster, said it sent out warnings on radio and television beginning at 9 a.m. Sunday about a possible undertow along the southwest coast of Thailand, where tens of thousands of foreigners were vacationing.

But the warnings came after the first waves hit. A Web site warning went up three hours later — but by then, at least 700 people had died in Thailand, including a jet-skiing grandson of revered monarch King Bhumibol Adulyadej.

Sulamee Prachuab, of the department's Seismological Bureau, said the government could not give a real-time warning because it did not have the satellite technology to do it.

Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra refused to answer reporters' questions Tuesday about tsunami alerts.



India's Information Minister Dayanidhi Maran said his country would consider establishing a warning system. Australia and Japan indicated they would lend their expertise to help build it. One Australian official said at least a year would be needed to set one up. Establishing such a system would likely cost millions of dollars.

Scientists said seismic networks in the region recorded Sunday's earthquake but that without sensors in oceans to track the path of the waves, there was no way to determine the direction a tsunami would travel.

"If they had tidal gauges and a tsunami warning system, many people who died would have been saved," said Waverly Person, director of the U.S. Geological Survey (news - web sites) national earthquake information service in Golden, Colo.

"They could have tracked the waves," he said. "They won't tell you how high the waves will be, but they can tell you when they will hit. Local authorities can warn citizens to get off the coast."

Such a system presumes, however, an organized communication system and widely understood procedures and discipline by hotel operators, fishing villages, and local authorities to clear the coastline quickly in case of a coming disaster.

Most of developing Asia lacks such infrastructure, and casualties were highest in three very impoverished areas — the coasts of eastern Sri Lanka and southeastern India, and the northern tip of Indonesia's Sumatra island.

An international warning system in the Pacific was started in 1965, the year after tsunamis associated with a magnitude 9.2 temblor struck Alaska in 1964. It is administered by the U.S-based National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

Member states include all the major Pacific rim nations in North America, Asia and South America, as well as the Pacific islands, Australia and New Zealand.

In Japan, a network of fiber-optic sensors record any seismic activity and passes the information to a powerful computer at the Meteorological Agency, which estimates the height, speed and arrival time of any tsunamis and the coastal areas most at risk. Within two minutes of the quake, the agency can sound the alarm.

[Burningsoul]

What has happened over there is terrible. Does anyone here know people who have been caught up in it, my kickboxing instructor is over there doing his own training and we have lost contact with him obviously, i am really starting to worry now :wth:

[peripeteia]

The death toll just seems to be increasing every other hour. My classmate was telling me that if Sumatra island wasnt there to withstand the tsunamis and earthquakes for Singapore we would definitely be totally wiped out like Atlantis.

[Razan]

Originally posted by peripeteia@Dec 28 2004, 05:52 PM
Indonesia's total death toll might reach 25,000.

Good Lord. I just want 2004 to end. 2004 is a horrid year.
I was just thinking the same thing...
This is just unimaginable, my indian friend says,"This is God's anger, He is trying to punish us"....I won't even comment since this is a sensitive time.

[Luke/Hellflame]

Heres what I think;

You know you all see these films where natural disasters happen all of a sudden and it chain links from one natural disaster to another,well maybe its actualy happening,I mean we already know that our planet is changing because of global warming etc. and we know that our planet is becoming more and more disruptive,maybe just maybe its starting to happen.

Think about it,an earthquake-tidal wave-? what's next? Chain reactions in volcanoes? Tornado's in different parts of the world?

I hate sounding like one of those paranoid idiots who ramble on about how the world is going to end but I think this is the start of worse things to come

[Syphon]

According to recent news articles the death toll could be anywhere from 68,000 to 76,000.

But im glad that at the moment that many australian doctors and aid workers are travelling to the asian nations closest to us to help but it will be hard to transport the supplies because many roads etc have been destroyed. i really hope that aid gets to the many homeless and injured people in time to prevent a disease epidemic.

i also heard that the Australian cricket team has donated over $17,000 of winnings to help distribute aid and supplies.

[Dr. Octagonapus]

I have 2 friends in Thailand and 1 in Indonesia, still haven't heard from any of them. :wth:

[Chris(tmas)]

Dutch organisations have gathered 2.7 million Euro's for the people in Asia in 2 days.

Almost 80000 people are killed. 1/3 of the dead people are childs

[Razan]

Originally posted by Chris(tmas)@Dec 29 2004, 04:13 PM
Dutch organisations have gathered 2.7 million Euro's for the people in Asia in 2 days.

Almost 80000 people are killed. 1/3 of the dead people are childs
WOW...that's amazing! (the help)

OMG...not 80,000...no way...

[El Postwhore]

Male was hit particularly hard, and I've managed to find a before/after picture of the island... Mouse over to see the 'before' picture, the default is the 'after' shot, partially cloud-obscured...

Male Airport - Tsunami Before and After (http://www.globalsecurity.org/eye/andaman-maldives_comp01.htm)

Just amazing...and my thoughts go out to everybody involved.

[Danielle]

This is the worst thing I've heard for ages.Many condolances to those who have friends or family or who know someone in those areas. I can't even imagine how hard it must be to be in your situation.

[Luke/Hellflame]

The count is now 75,000

This is now officialy the 2nd worst natural disaster on record

[Chris(tmas)]

Originally posted by hellflame Prophecy@Dec 29 2004, 08:52 PM
The count is now 75,000

This is now officialy the 2nd worst natural disaster on record
Whats the first worst natural disaster? :unsure:

[/offtopic]

[Luke/Hellflame]

Originally posted by Chris(tmas)+Dec 29 2004, 07:55 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Chris(tmas) @ Dec 29 2004, 07:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--hellflame Prophecy@Dec 29 2004, 08:52 PM
The count is now 75,000

This is now officialy the 2nd worst natural disaster on record
Whats the first worst natural disaster? :unsure:

[/offtopic] [/b][/quote]
It was about a thousand years ago,it was the eruption of mount vesuvius over the city of pompeii,about 150,000 people died

[Friskey™]

Originally posted by hellflame Prophecy+Dec 29 2004, 03:05 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (hellflame Prophecy @ Dec 29 2004, 03:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by -Chris(tmas)@Dec 29 2004, 07:55 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--hellflame Prophecy@Dec 29 2004, 08:52 PM
The count is now 75,000

This is now officialy the 2nd worst natural disaster on record
Whats the first worst natural disaster? :unsure:

[/offtopic]
It was about a thousand years ago,it was the eruption of mount vesuvius over the city of pompeii,about 150,000 people died [/b][/quote]
God damn, god damn!

EDIT- It's now near 77,000

[Burningsoul]

I just got a email of my instructor in thailand, its weird, hes fine, and the authorities in the area hes livin in wont even tell them the whole story, my instructor didnt find out about the incident until a few hours after it happened because his home town wasnt effected, and still only thinks it was a minor flood, why wont the authorities tell them the truth.

[Chris(tmas)]

Originally posted by Burningsoul@Dec 30 2004, 12:09 AM
I just got a email of my instructor in thailand, its weird, hes fine, and the authorities in the area hes livin in wont even tell them the whole story, my instructor didnt find out about the incident until a few hours after it happened because his home town wasnt effected, and still only thinks it was a minor flood, why wont the authorities tell them the truth.
Because of some chaos that can happen. Everybody rushes to the city hall and there will be pushing and shouting.. and fighting...




i think :whistle:

[Burningsoul]

Originally posted by Chris(tmas)+Dec 30 2004, 09:46 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Chris(tmas) @ Dec 30 2004, 09:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Burningsoul@Dec 30 2004, 12:09 AM
I just got a email of my instructor in thailand, its weird, hes fine, and the authorities in the area hes livin in wont even tell them the whole story, my instructor didnt find out about the incident until a few hours after it happened because his home town wasnt effected, and still only thinks it was a minor flood, why wont the authorities tell them the truth.
Because of some chaos that can happen. Everybody rushes to the city hall and there will be pushing and shouting.. and fighting...




i think :whistle: [/b][/quote]
Yeah your probably right, but still they deserve to know

[Chris(tmas)]

Count is now 80000

[Evil Angel]

I live in India and My friend lost his Mother.They had been to The Andaman islands for a vacation and it turned out to be a nightmare.I strange the the Indian government came to know about the news only when the officials saw it on TV.This is what has angered me.With a government like this no wonder India is in the dumps.

I also heard that one of the Sri Lankan cricketers have lost a relative.

[peripeteia]

Originally posted by Rohan@Dec 30 2004, 09:04 PM
With a government like this no wonder India is in the dumps.
i remember a few years ago my history teacher went to india as well to do some charity work as well, but guess what? even though the goverment gave them the okay to built a school at a village, they still couldnt carry out the construction because the villager chief said NO.

strange, isnt it. the goverment said okay but the villager chief said no. :mellow:

[Luke/Hellflame]

Death toll update:
123,000

[Todd]

The American media's coverage of this disgusts me. I was watching the local news, and they made a point that a dozen Americans have been confirmed dead and they act as if the 122988 civilians who died are no big deal.

[Chris(tmas)]

So is ours though. 10 (or more) people are dead, but we also care about the people there.


A good 9.7 million Euro's has been collected by the dutch people. On Tuesday we collected 2.3 million.

[DruSilla]

Originally posted by Toddles@Dec 30 2004, 07:13 PM
The American media's coverage of this disgusts me. I was watching the local news, and they made a point that a dozen Americans have been confirmed dead and they act as if the 122988 civilians who died are no big deal.
Sadly that's similar to what's happening here in germany....
most of the time the news deals with the german victims (which is horrible and sad!!!) but they seem to forget the other victims...
or they only speake about german ppl being brought home and getting out of those countries...but they forget the millions of people who don't have a home anymore, who just can't leave, who have to live there.....that's just disgusting!
not every tv station is acting like that, but a lot are!

[Leeuwnie]

This is so horrible! A family from where I live (Nijverdal) is on tv. They've lost their mother. I really hope they find her back but the chance is very small. Their son is coming from Nijverdal to Thailand to search for his mother. The death toll is now 120.000... This may be the worst disaster in history :mellow:

A uncle of my friend lives on the maldives, I'm so happy for her that he didn't get hurt!

[Burningsoul]

its 125000 now. Here in england they are talking about the english and the rest of the people affected. But it disgusts me that we can spend billions on a war but only give 15million to such a needy cause.
Also in my opinion they should force every movie star, sports star etc to give a little donation, it wouldnt harm them.

[EngiShinnizle]

Originally posted by tasta@Dec 29 2004, 03:35 PM
I have 2 friends in Thailand and 1 in Indonesia, still haven't heard from any of them. :wth:
where is ur indonesian friend live in???
If he/she live in outer of Aceh, south sumatra, weh island, n nias island...I think she/he is okay....
I also indonesian....

[Messy Marj]

Hmm, this could end up as the worst natural disaster ever.

[Leeuwnie]

Originally posted by Marj@Dec 31 2004, 11:57 AM
Hmm, this could end up as the worst natural disaster ever.
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking...

This is really so terrible, I still can't believe it. I'm not going to buy fireworks. My mom and I are giving our money to Asia instead

[Arhaz]

120,000 and counting....


i can't be happier to be alive....

i'm a survivor!!!

[Holiday]

the death toll is around 125,000

4mill are homeless, many w/o food or water

just as many ppl are expected to die from disease outbreaks of dissentary(sp) and other things

this is the second worst natural dissaster. in China a while ago there were huge typhoons and upwards of 250,000 died

[Mark]

This is the most awful thing I have ever been alive to hear about. Upwards of 135,000 are now dead. They say around a hundred thousand more are still unaccounted for.

I agree, Todd. It's like, "125,000 cilivians killed in Asian Tsunami, including 11 Americans." They're just treated as statistics. So the next hour of coverage includes 58 minutes talking with a gas station attendant who once pumped gas for a nice lady from Wyoming, while the last 2 minutes arre just the mentioning of numbers and percentages. It's sickening.

[Luke/Hellflame]

Around 25,000 more deaths and it will be the 1st greatest natural disaster.

The english coverage is bad but it is good they are listing all the people who live in England who were there as safe.For those of you who have heard of him,David Attenborough (lots of animal and planet documentaries) has lost his daughter to the disaster.I do hope this all ends soon,its so sad to think of all the children who will grow up without their parents or parents not having their loved ones around anymore,these familys having to go to a centre to identify which body is their reletive.I'm actualy gonna donate some money for this,its so sad andsuch a waste of life

[Friskey™]

on Yahoo it says it's near 150,000 now :(

[Holiday]

DYN: that this tsunami made one of these islands(im sry i cant remember which one) move over a whole 100 feet????

isnt that insane?

[Mark]

Originally posted by hybridsoldier02@Dec 31 2004, 11:48 PM
DYN: that this tsunami made one of these islands(im sry i cant remember which one) move over a whole 100 feet????

isnt that insane?
It completely "vaporized" other islands, apparently. They no longer exist over the surface.

It also caused the Earth to wobble on it's axis and displace a fraction of a millimeter.

[Holiday]

Originally posted by Mark+Jan 1 2005, 05:52 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mark @ Jan 1 2005, 05:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--hybridsoldier02@Dec 31 2004, 11:48 PM
DYN: that this tsunami made one of these islands(im sry i cant remember which one) move over a whole 100 feet????

isnt that insane?
It completely "vaporized" other islands, apparently. They no longer exist over the surface.

It also caused the Earth to wobble on it's axis and displace a fraction of a millimeter. [/b][/quote]
wow. crazy stuff. the earth is amazing in its power.

[peripeteia]

Originally posted by hybridsoldier02+Jan 1 2005, 03:03 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (hybridsoldier02 @ Jan 1 2005, 03:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by -Mark@Jan 1 2005, 05:52 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--hybridsoldier02@Dec 31 2004, 11:48 PM
DYN: that this tsunami made one of these islands(im sry i cant remember which one) move over a whole 100 feet????

isnt that insane?
It completely "vaporized" other islands, apparently. They no longer exist over the surface.

It also caused the Earth to wobble on it's axis and displace a fraction of a millimeter.
wow. crazy stuff. the earth is amazing in its power. [/b][/quote]
yeah. mother nature is really really mad.

just a random thought, with all these islands 'vaporized', do scientists or geologists now have to redraw the world map?

[HARLEYsheXda]

the part where i'm studying is just 40 km off the coast of where the tragedy hits our shore a week ago... not as disasterous as the neighbouring country but still hit the nations badly... the day it actually happens, i was in a car with my friends on our way to the state where the tsunami occurred...so we didn't really feel the earth shaking around us when everybody else did... we were on our way to attend my best friend's brother wedding ceremony... it was awful to know about it later since her home is just near the coast, but lucky for her to live on the mainland as the tsunami only hit the island which is on the other side of the state... my dad called many times, asking if i was fine...

deepest symphaty n condolences go to the victims and their families...

[Mr. Benzedrine]

My Deepest Condolences to everyone affected, man this fucking sucks :(

[Razan]

250,000 now...
One of the islands turned into Atlantis (sunk underwater) :mellow:

[Anthony.]

Originally posted by Razan@Jan 2 2005, 09:44 PM
250,000 now...
One of the islands turned into Atlantis (sunk underwater) :mellow:
155 000, not 250 000... Thanks God...

[Razan]

Originally posted by Avenger+Jan 3 2005, 01:50 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Avenger @ Jan 3 2005, 01:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Razan@Jan 2 2005, 09:44 PM
250,000 now...
One of the islands turned into Atlantis (sunk underwater) :mellow:
155 000, not 250 000... Thanks God... [/b][/quote]
On the news it said 250,000....
But I would prefer it if I was wrong.

[lp15girl]

I am from Indonesia......all brothers and sisters in Aceh now are getting pain........So many people estimating in few weeks the victims who survive will suffer colera and the other diseases....coz so many human corpses haven't been buried......they are let sprawled in the road :(

[Ryan]

Originally posted by Mark+Dec 31 2004, 10:52 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mark @ Dec 31 2004, 10:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--hybridsoldier02@Dec 31 2004, 11:48 PM
DYN: that this tsunami made one of these islands(im sry i cant remember which one) move over a whole 100 feet????

isnt that insane?
It completely "vaporized" other islands, apparently. They no longer exist over the surface.

It also caused the Earth to wobble on it's axis and displace a fraction of a millimeter. [/b][/quote]
Thats fricken crazy. :mellow:

[matttheskwirl14]

thats crazy

[Razan]

Originally posted by lp15girl@Jan 3 2005, 03:20 AM
I am from Indonesia......all brothers and sisters in Aceh now are getting pain........So many people estimating in few weeks the victims who survive will suffer colera and the other diseases....coz so many human corpses haven't been buried......they are let sprawled in the road :(
I'm so sorry :hugz:
I hope they turn out okay....be thankful that you weren't there at least...
BE STRONG :hugz:

[Messy Marj]

Originally posted by Razan+Jan 3 2005, 02:32 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Razan @ Jan 3 2005, 02:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--lp15girl@Jan 3 2005, 03:20 AM
I am from Indonesia......all brothers and sisters in Aceh now are getting pain........So many people estimating in few weeks the victims who survive will suffer colera and the other diseases....coz so many human corpses haven't been buried......they are let sprawled in the road :(
I'm so sorry :hugz:
I hope they turn out okay....be thankful that you weren't there at least...
BE STRONG :hugz: [/b][/quote]
:hugz: I hope they'll be alright.

[Burningsoul]

Originally posted by Razan+Jan 3 2005, 01:55 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Razan @ Jan 3 2005, 01:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by -Avenger@Jan 3 2005, 01:50 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Razan@Jan 2 2005, 09:44 PM
250,000 now...
One of the islands turned into Atlantis (sunk underwater) :mellow:
155 000, not 250 000... Thanks God...
On the news it said 250,000....
But I would prefer it if I was wrong. [/b][/quote]
Ive also heard 250000, it sucks beyond belief

[Glenn]

this is really horrible! :o

[Chris(tmas)]

Originally posted by Burningsoul+Jan 3 2005, 07:11 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Burningsoul @ Jan 3 2005, 07:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by -Razan@Jan 3 2005, 01:55 AM
Originally posted by -Avenger@Jan 3 2005, 01:50 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Razan@Jan 2 2005, 09:44 PM
250,000 now...
One of the islands turned into Atlantis (sunk underwater) :mellow:
155 000, not 250 000... Thanks God...
On the news it said 250,000....
But I would prefer it if I was wrong.
Ive also heard 250000, it sucks beyond belief [/b][/quote]
Its not 250000. They havent even reached the 160000

[lnkn_drgn_prk]

Latest News: (From MSN.com)
As of 4 January 2005 @ 11:53 am EST (4:53 pm GMT)


Confirmed Death Toll: 139,410
The toll is expected to soar by tens of thousands because surveys of Sumatra’s west coast show it was hit a lot harder than previously thought.
An Indonesian man swept off the shore by last week’s tsunami was found afloat on tree branches and debris, the second person to be found alive on the high seas days after the disaster, officials said Tuesday.
Fifteen Americans were among the dead, but that number was expected to rise, the State Department official coordinating efforts to account for missing Americans told NBC News on Monday.
Forensic experts began exhuming 300 victims Monday after discovering that their bodies apparently were misidentified in the rush to bury the dead before they decomposed in the tropical heat, Thai officials said.
For more information, read the article here (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6754820/?GT1=6065)

[Ryan]

Originally posted by lnkn_drgn_prk@Jan 4 2005, 10:17 AM
Latest News: (From MSN.com)
As of 4 January 2005 @ 11:53 am EST (4:53 pm GMT)


Confirmed Death Toll: 139,410
The toll is expected to soar by tens of thousands because surveys of Sumatra’s west coast show it was hit a lot harder than previously thought.
An Indonesian man swept off the shore by last week’s tsunami was found afloat on tree branches and debris, the second person to be found alive on the high seas days after the disaster, officials said Tuesday.
Fifteen Americans were among the dead, but that number was expected to rise, the State Department official coordinating efforts to account for missing Americans told NBC News on Monday.
Forensic experts began exhuming 300 victims Monday after discovering that their bodies apparently were misidentified in the rush to bury the dead before they decomposed in the tropical heat, Thai officials said.
For more information, read the article here (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6754820/?GT1=6065)

Not to be a pessismist but I believe that the death toll will get to over 200,000 after they finish cleaning up everything.

But I will say that today i went to my local sportcheck to buy a hockey stick and i was asked if i wanted to make a donation to the Tsunami relief and i graciously said that yes i would.

[Jejune]

I'm not sure which area this is...

Before (http://www.digitalglobe.com/images/tsunami/banda_aceh_shoreline_before_june23_2004_dg.jpg)
After (http://www.digitalglobe.com/images/tsunami/banda_aceh_shoreline_missing_dec28_2004_dg.jpg)

Just extraordinary...
Does anyone know just how badly affected Thailand was?

[Chris(tmas)]

Banda Aceh shoreline.

[Jejune]

Oh yeah, thanks, it says right there in the URL. :blush:

[Leeuwnie]

I saw this programme about a mega-tsunami.

BBC page (http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/2000/mega_tsunami.shtml)

Questions & answers (http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/2000/mega_tsunami_qanda.shtml)

This is really going to happen!! The whole East-Coast of the US can be destroyed by this mega-tsunami. The tsunami will be higher then the skyscrapers. New York, Bosten, Miami and the Caribbean, everything within 20 kilometers from the coast will be destroyed.

But I hope that this doesn't happen in the near future

[Chris(tmas)]

This thing is going to fall down in the ocean and will cause a mega tsunami

http://members.lycos.nl/lpchrizzle/tsunami1.jpg

Then, it will hit..

http://members.lycos.nl/lpchrizzle/tsunami.jpg

I got the pics of a magazine made with my webcam.

If there's a earthquake near or in La Palma, it will cause a landslide. Because of the landslide, the 500 km³ piece of land will fall down in the ocean and will cause a wave of 700 metres high. After 10 minutes the water has reached the speed of 250 km/h. Marocco will get a 650 metre-high wave. 9 hours after the landslide the wave reaches the eastside of America and will cause waves that can reach to 30 metres or higher. Manhatten dissapears, Florida and the Bahama's will litterly (??) dissapear from the map. One hour after the landslide the wave will hit Portugal and Spain, the South of England and the Netherlands. It can happen tomorrow, but it could also happen next millenium.

I typed the important stuff from the magazine.

[Leeuwnie]

Originally posted by Chris@Jan 5 2005, 03:42 PM
This thing is going to fall down in the ocean and will cause a mega tsunami

http://members.lycos.nl/lpchrizzle/tsunami1.jpg

Then, it will hit..

http://members.lycos.nl/lpchrizzle/tsunami.jpg

I got the pics of a magazine made with my webcam.

If there's a earthquake near or in La Palma, it will cause a landslide. Because of the landslide, the 500 km³ piece of land will fall down in the ocean and will cause a wave of 700 metres high. After 10 minutes the water has reached the speed of 250 km/h. Marocco will get a 650 metre-high wave. 9 hours after the landslide the wave reaches the eastside of America and will cause waves that can reach to 30 metres or higher. Manhatten dissapears, Florida and the Bahama's will litterly (??) dissapear from the map. One hour after the landslide the wave will hit Portugal and Spain, the South of England and the Netherlands. It can happen tomorrow, but it could also happen next millenium.

I typed the important stuff from the magazine.
Scary isn't it :mellow:

Did you also watch "Netwerk" a few days ago? There was a documentary on about the mega-tsunami. They said only the USA would be affected by the mega-tsunami. But I guess almost every country on the Atlantic Ocean will be effected.

[Mark]

Originally posted by Leeuwnie@Jan 5 2005, 09:32 AM
I saw this programme about a mega-tsunami.

BBC page (http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/2000/mega_tsunami.shtml)

Questions & answers (http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/2000/mega_tsunami_qanda.shtml)

This is really going to happen!! The whole East-Coast of the US can be destroyed by this mega-tsunami. The tsunami will be higher then the skyscrapers. New York, Bosten, Miami and the Caribbean, everything within 20 kilometers from the coast will be destroyed.

But I hope that this doesn't happen in the near future
Well, that means I will most surely die if that happens. I live in the most easternly city in North America, on an island. The cliffs bordering our city and atlantic ocean are only about 150m high.

[Burningsoul]

Originally posted by Jejune@Jan 5 2005, 11:40 AM
I'm not sure which area this is...

Before (http://www.digitalglobe.com/images/tsunami/banda_aceh_shoreline_before_june23_2004_dg.jpg)
After (http://www.digitalglobe.com/images/tsunami/banda_aceh_shoreline_missing_dec28_2004_dg.jpg)

Just extraordinary...
Does anyone know just how badly affected Thailand was?
Thailand was hit bad in some areas but was perfectly fine in other bits, my instructor is in thailand and knew nothing about it for the first few hours.

[Jejune]

Thanks for that. It's such a bummer. Hopefully it won't trigger off a bunch of other disasters. Someone wrote on a website that the earthquake which caused the tsunami itself was triggered off by another earthquake which happened to Tasmania (part of Australia) which was caused by oil drilling... :mellow:

[Razan]

I just learned this from my school:
The UN have 2 billion dollars.
There are 5 million homeless people.
That's 40 dollars per person per year.
That's 0.03 dollars a day per person.

....

By donating 10 dollars you can give them a first aid kit, blanket and some food.
Please, please try help by sending them anything you don't really need or can spare. I'm sure in you're school/university...there must be somewhere if not there...they can send it!
Please help, my school is putting a lot of effort but I know it won't do much...but if everyone donates then it will help greatly.
If you have a credit card you can go here (https://www.redcross.org/donate/donation-form.asp) if you want.
Please try your best to help them.

Oh, and if this makes some of you donate, LP is concerned...

[Chris(tmas)]

In total, Holland has raised 76 million euro's for the victims in Asia.

Radio stations changed their name today to Radio 555, which is the number where you can donate your money.

[lnkn_drgn_prk]

Originally posted by Jejune@Jan 5 2005, 11:40 AM
I'm not sure which area this is...

Before (http://www.digitalglobe.com/images/tsunami/banda_aceh_shoreline_before_june23_2004_dg.jpg)
After (http://www.digitalglobe.com/images/tsunami/banda_aceh_shoreline_missing_dec28_2004_dg.jpg)

Just extraordinary...
Does anyone know just how badly affected Thailand was?
:o :(

Holy S***!!!

[Chris(tmas)]

Originally posted by Chris@Jan 6 2005, 08:55 PM
In total, Holland has raised 76 million euro's for the victims in Asia.

Radio stations changed their name today to Radio 555, which is the number where you can donate your money.
Its now somewhere at 96 million, and should be over the 100 million tomorrow.

[PaperFlowers]

Originally posted by lnkn_drgn_prk+Jan 6 2005, 10:33 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lnkn_drgn_prk @ Jan 6 2005, 10:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Jejune@Jan 5 2005, 11:40 AM
I'm not sure which area this is...

Before (http://www.digitalglobe.com/images/tsunami/banda_aceh_shoreline_before_june23_2004_dg.jpg)
After (http://www.digitalglobe.com/images/tsunami/banda_aceh_shoreline_missing_dec28_2004_dg.jpg)

Just extraordinary...
Does anyone know just how badly affected Thailand was?


[/b][/quote]
I was in Thailand when it all happened. I think the island of Phuket and the province of Phang Nga were affected the worst (judging from the amount of deaths stated in the Bangkok Post). The province Of Krabi was quite badly affected aswell; although I am unaware of how many people died there. The beach where I was staying called Ao Nang in Krabi did have some waves, but I heard on the news that none of the waves were big enough to be tsunamis. On boxing day, I had a choice between going to the Phi Phi islands or going inland to go elephant trekking in the forest. Luckily, my mom doesn't like boats so we took the elephant trek. Phi Phi is in open water and any high ground is virtually impossible to get up to. If my family and myself had gone to Phi Phi then I don't think I would be telling you this right now. Two days later, I went shopping in town, I saw a notice asking if anyone had seen a 3 year old girl from the Netherlands. She was called Vivienne and it even had her picture on the note, this nearly made me cry. In Bangkok airport there were pages and pages of Thai and forein missing people. The amount of Scandinavian dead and missing is unbelievable and upsetting, think of all the broken hearts, all of the tears in Scandinavia, espcecially Sweden. This has been an event that has shook the world both literally, and in our hearts.

[Leeuwnie]

Originally posted by Chris+Jan 6 2005, 11:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Chris @ Jan 6 2005, 11:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Chris@Jan 6 2005, 08:55 PM
In total, Holland has raised 76 million euro's for the victims in Asia.

Radio stations changed their name today to Radio 555, which is the number where you can donate your money.
Its now somewhere at 96 million, and should be over the 100 million tomorrow.[/b][/quote]
When the tv and radio stopped yesterday holland, had raised 112.440.000 euro thats about 146.172.000 dollar! That a lot for a small country with only about 16 million inhabitants. I think it's wonderful that we give so much attention to this!! I just think this is really too horrible to be true, but it is... When I saw al those images of people in Asia on tv yesterday... I just had to cry :(

[Jejune]

PaperFlowers - Thank you for being so informative. My friend went for a holiday there, the problem is I don't know when she went - so she could have missed it entirely - and I have no idea where exactly she was at the time (so I'm sorry you had to type all that out).
Edit - She got there after the tsnami, so she's fine...
think of all the broken hearts, all of the tears in Scandinavia, espcecially Sweden.
Heh, my friend is from Sweden...

[Razan]

Originally posted by Leeuwnie+Jan 7 2005, 11:26 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Leeuwnie @ Jan 7 2005, 11:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by -Chris@Jan 6 2005, 11:35 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Chris@Jan 6 2005, 08:55 PM
In total, Holland has raised 76 million euro's for the victims in Asia.

Radio stations changed their name today to Radio 555, which is the number where you can donate your money.
Its now somewhere at 96 million, and should be over the 100 million tomorrow.
When the tv and radio stopped yesterday holland, had raised 112.440.000 euro thats about 146.172.000 dollar! That a lot for a small country with only about 16 million inhabitants. I think it's wonderful that we give so much attention to this!! I just think this is really too horrible to be true, but it is... When I saw al those images of people in Asia on tv yesterday... I just had to cry :( [/b][/quote]
WOW...they gave way more than a whole continent (America)!
GO HOLLAND :thumbsup:

[Leeuwnie]

Originally posted by Razan+Jan 7 2005, 02:41 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Razan @ Jan 7 2005, 02:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Leeuwnie@Jan 7 2005, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by -Chris@Jan 6 2005, 11:35 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Chris@Jan 6 2005, 08:55 PM
In total, Holland has raised 76 million euro's for the victims in Asia.

Radio stations changed their name today to Radio 555, which is the number where you can donate your money.
Its now somewhere at 96 million, and should be over the 100 million tomorrow.
When the tv and radio stopped yesterday holland, had raised 112.440.000 euro thats about 146.172.000 dollar! That a lot for a small country with only about 16 million inhabitants. I think it's wonderful that we give so much attention to this!! I just think this is really too horrible to be true, but it is... When I saw al those images of people in Asia on tv yesterday... I just had to cry :(
WOW...they gave way more than a whole continent (America)!
GO HOLLAND :thumbsup:[/b][/quote]
And there is still money coming... Normally there's about 17 % taxes on charity donations. But the minister of Finance decided that no taxes have to be paid over the money that goes to Asia. :thumbsup:

[Ryan]

Yah kudos to Holland on their efforts.

[Razan]

Originally posted by Leeuwnie+Jan 7 2005, 02:37 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Leeuwnie @ Jan 7 2005, 02:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by -Razan@Jan 7 2005, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by -Leeuwnie@Jan 7 2005, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by -Chris@Jan 6 2005, 11:35 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Chris@Jan 6 2005, 08:55 PM
In total, Holland has raised 76 million euro's for the victims in Asia.

Radio stations changed their name today to Radio 555, which is the number where you can donate your money.
Its now somewhere at 96 million, and should be over the 100 million tomorrow.
When the tv and radio stopped yesterday holland, had raised 112.440.000 euro thats about 146.172.000 dollar! That a lot for a small country with only about 16 million inhabitants. I think it's wonderful that we give so much attention to this!! I just think this is really too horrible to be true, but it is... When I saw al those images of people in Asia on tv yesterday... I just had to cry :(
WOW...they gave way more than a whole continent (America)!
GO HOLLAND :thumbsup:
And there is still money coming... Normally there's about 17 % taxes on charity donations. But the minister of Finance decided that no taxes have to be paid over the money that goes to Asia. :thumbsup: [/b][/quote]
:mellow: ... Shit man.
I LOVE YOUR COUNTRY! not more than mine...but still... :hugz:
So amazing...

[linkin park 101]

Australia raised

over $20 million aus dollars :D

or $151,602.36 us dollars

[Cal]

One of the worst things ive ever seen in my life, the death toll is astonishing, my Aunties family all stay in the indonesian regions, so i dont know what the story is with them at the moment, im currently wearing a band that you get from giving a donation

[Minus Xero]

This is going to affect us for the rest of our lifetimes. It's going to be in history books.

Whole villages are just gone...

I didn't realize how far the tsunamis hit until I heard that the lower part of Africa was affected as well...

I donated my paycheck to the Red Cross, I can live without DDR for a while.

Those before and after pictures just make me want to donate more.

[Razan]

Originally posted by linkin park 101@Jan 9 2005, 11:58 PM
Australia raised

over $20 million aus dollars :D

or $151,602.36 us dollars
RADIOACTIVE TOO! :thumbsup:

Mine did nothing...their receiving donations, not giving them... =(

[DruSilla]

seeing this pictures on the news still makes me so sad...
:(

german ppl have donated at least 350 Million Euro
(wich would be sth like 457 Million $) so far....and it doesn't look like this is going to end anywhere soon...
there are donation box everywhere you go here...
in your local shop, at schools, at universitys....it'S amazing.
and what's really touching is, that a lot of younger kids
also donate money. there was a charity show the other day,
and they showed children at the age of six or five donating 3,21 Euro or 2,56 euro...... :)

[lpsk8er]

I guess in a way we've all been touched by the tsunami, and that's why it's really important to donate right now , so open ur pockets.



My condolences go out to all the tsunami victims.

[Chris(tmas)]

Deathcount is now 175000