Bin Laden Granted Permission to Nuke U.S.?

[SketchaMPM]

This is being passed around from forum to forum so I thought I'd share. It's from the New York Daily News, which I'm not certain is a trustworthy source, but I also missed the 60 Minutes it refers to. Judge for yourself.

Osama Bin Laden has been granted religious approval to use a nuclear bomb against Americans, according to the CIA's former top Al Qaeda expert.
The former official, Michael Scheuer, tells CBS' "60 Minutes" on tomorrow's broadcast that Bin Laden was given written authority by a Saudi sheik.

The sheik "found that [Bin Laden] was perfectly within his rights" to use nukes.

"Muslims argue that the United States is responsible for millions of dead Muslims around the world, so reciprocity would mean you could kill millions of Americans," Scheuer says.

Scheuer, who resigned yesterday, was the head of the CIA unit charged with tracking Bin Laden from 1996 to 1999, and the previously anonymous author of two books critical of the West's response to Bin Laden and Al Qaeda. He's been tracking Bin Laden since the mid-1980s.

Scheuer tells "60 Minutes" that American leaders have made a mistake by characterizing Bin Laden as "a thug, a gangster" rather than a disciplined plotter of destruction.

"Until we respect him, sir, we are going to die in numbers that are probably unnecessary," he says. The Al Qaeda mastermind was involved in the original planning for the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. He also charged that former CIA Director George Tenet failed to provide the agency's Bin Laden unit with sufficient manpower.

In the interview, Scheuer says that even if Bin Laden had a nuclear weapon, he probably would not have used it before without the authority of the sheik.

:'(
What do you think?

[SketchaMPM]

Edit: Nevermind, it is true. I'm pretty terrified.

Sheik OK'd Osama's plan to nuke U.S.
By Marie Szaniszlo
Sunday, November 14, 2004
Boston Herald

Osama bin Laden has obtained permission from a Saudi religious official to use nuclear weapons against the United States, according to a CIA agent who resigned Friday.

* * In an interview scheduled to air tonight on CBS, Michael Scheuer told ``60 Minutes'' that a sheik has given bin Laden a lengthy treatise, which found that he was ``perfectly within his rights to use them.''

* * ``Most Muslims argue that the United States is responsible for millions of dead Muslims around the world,'' Scheuer said, ``so reciprocity would mean you could kill millions of Americans.''

* * Some Muslims criticized bin Laden for killing so many Americans in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks without warning, a concern bin Laden has since addressed, he said, in videotapes the al-Qaeda leader has released.

* * Scheuer, the author of two ``anonymous'' books critical of the U.S. response to the threat posed by the terrorist network, resigned Friday as head of the CIA unit responsible for tracking al-Qaeda. He said he was frustrated with the unit's limited resources and the Bush administration's attempts to squelch his speaking engagements.

* * Former CIA Director George Tenet never provided the unit with sufficient manpower, he told ``60 Minutes,'' and the United States has made the mistake of characterizing bin Laden as ``a thug, a gangster,'' rather than a skilled plotter of destruction. And Scheuer is not alone in that view.

* * ``Until the embassy bombings (in 1999), he wasn't taken as seriously,'' said Rodger A. Payne, professor of political science at the University of Louisville.

* * Whether any religious authority gave bin Laden the go-ahead for future attacks, however, is of relatively little significance, said Payne and Neamat Nojumi, a scholar and former Afghan mujahideen.

* * ``He has presented himself as a supreme figure; he doesn't need permission. He and his network have already committed so many atrocities,'' said Nojumi, author of ``The Rise of the Taliban'' and research associate at the Center for World Religions, Diplomacy and Conflict Resolution at George Mason University.

* * If the United States wants to prevent future attacks, it must repair its international image by building a coalition to resolve the chaos in Iraq, he said, and, ``most importantly,'' play a ``balanced, impartial'' role in resolving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

* * ``Iraq, unfortunately, has distracted the United States,'' Payne said. ``With the war still costing billions of dollars per month, it's a real trade-off in resources.''

[Razan]

I don't belive it Osama is dead, Saudi sheikh wouldn't do it because he hates Osama (seriously), why are you all terrified??? It's bull.

[SketchaMPM]

Originally posted by Spiked@Nov 17 2004, 09:40 AM
I don't belive it Osama is dead, Saudi sheikh wouldn't do it because he hates Osama (seriously), why are you all terrified??? It's bull.
I thought Osama was confirmed to be alive a couple weeks ago?

Remember the tape? The news?

[Sylar]

Originally posted by SketchaMPM+Nov 17 2004, 07:05 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (SketchaMPM @ Nov 17 2004, 07:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Spiked@Nov 17 2004, 09:40 AM
I don't belive it Osama is dead, Saudi sheikh wouldn't do it because he hates Osama (seriously), why are you all terrified??? It's bull.
I thought Osama was confirmed to be alive a couple weeks ago?

Remember the tape? The news? [/b][/quote]
he IS alive, I dunno what that guy is talking about.

This would have never happened if we just would have stayed on target and capture Osama before Saddam :whistle:

[Razan]

he IS alive, I dunno what that guy is talking about.

This would have never happened if we just would have stayed on target and capture Osama before Saddam

He is dead.

What does Saddam have to do with this?

[Sylar]

Originally posted by Spiked@Nov 17 2004, 11:11 AM
he IS alive, I dunno what that guy is talking about.

This would have never happened if we just would have stayed on target and capture Osama before Saddam*

He is dead.

What does Saddam have to do with this?
You know Osama personally? Are you over in Iraq now looking at his dead body? There was a new tape of Osama released like a week ago, he's Alive.


And Saddam has a lot to do with this because we should have captured Osama, but why didn't we? because we moved our focus off of him and put it onto Saddam, when there was no need for it at the time, We should have captured Osama, because he was obviously more of a threat to us than Saddam, especially when he planned the 9/11 attacks, the basis of this whole war on terrorism.

[SketchaMPM]

Originally posted by BuriedxTragedy+Nov 17 2004, 03:16 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (BuriedxTragedy @ Nov 17 2004, 03:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Spiked@Nov 17 2004, 11:11 AM
he IS alive, I dunno what that guy is talking about.

This would have never happened if we just would have stayed on target and capture Osama before Saddam*

He is dead.

What does Saddam have to do with this?
You know Osama personally? Are you over in Iraq now looking at his dead body? There was a new tape of Osama released like a week ago, he's Alive.


And Saddam has a lot to do with this because we should have captured Osama, but why didn't we? because we moved our focus off of him and put it onto Saddam, when there was no need for it at the time, We should have captured Osama, because he was obviously more of a threat to us than Saddam, especially when he planned the 9/11 attacks, the basis of this whole war on terrorism. [/b][/quote]
Exactly.

[Mark]

You're doomed.

Bush let 9/11 happen, so why not this? He's a bumbling idiot. He refuses to focus on the real target (Bin Laden) and puts all his attention on places for oil. If he really wanted to stop terrorism, he'd be in Dafur in high numbers right now. Thousands of children and adults are being killed. The men are rounded up and shot, the women raped, and the children are either shot or have one of their arms chopped off with a machete, then their shortened appendage is put into a boiling pot of sheep fat in order for it to cauterize. That is real terror.

Now, I hope it doesn't happen. But I don't trust that the American government can stop this. Lets hope the terrorists wait until a decent adminstration is put into office, but if they were smart they'd seize this opportunity, because it's their best chance of success with Dubya in office.

[Link04]

Originally posted by Mark@Nov 17 2004, 07:02 PM
You're doomed.

Bush let 9/11 happen, so why not this? He's a bumbling idiot. He refuses to focus on the real target (Bin Laden) and puts all his attention on places for oil. If he really wanted to stop terrorism, he'd be in Dafur in high numbers right now. Thousands of children and adults are being killed. The men are rounded up and shot, the women raped, and the children are either shot or have one of their arms chopped off with a machete, then their shortened appendage is put into a boiling pot of sheep fat in order for it to cauterize. That is real terror.


I agree.

[x3r09]

this is kinda off-subject...but whatever happened to saddam? does iraq have him?

[Doctor Manhattan]

Yeah. I'm scared now.

Is Bush so fucking ignorant that he can't see the real enemy is Osama, and not invading fucking Fallujah?

God. I'm going to be killed because of that shithead president now. And to think I actually semi-supported him during the Elections. I guess this is what I get for supporting a dipshit.

EDIT: I believe Saddam is in Iraq awaiting his trial.

[Sylar]

Originally posted by x3r09@Nov 17 2004, 05:19 PM
this is kinda off-subject...but whatever happened to saddam? does iraq have him?
He's in Iraqi custody and awaiting his trial, as Casey mentioned in his edit.

[erasethepain]

Is Bush so fucking ignorant that he can't see the real enemy is Osama, and not invading fucking Fallujah?

The real enemy is Osama? There's more to this war than one man. There's more people on both sides doing wrong.

There's no reason to be scared. You can't change what's going to happen because "logical" and "reasonable" are not in George Bush's dictionary. The majority wanted this, so instead of pointing fingers at just Osama, maybe we should turn to the people of this grand country.

[Doctor Manhattan]

Who is/was a greater threat? Saddam or Osama?

[Link04]

To whom? The United States?

If that's the case, I'd say Osama was and is more of a threat. Saddam was just a cruel dictator of a country that was a ghost of it's former military power.

[Doctor Manhattan]

Yes, to the US. :P

I don't think it was a good idea to go after Saddam. I'm starting to believe that 9/11 was just a reason to invade Iraq and get Saddam.

[Ryan]

Holly crap Bush is an idiot. Even if he caught Osama he could ahve still fed all his BS to the UN council and still invaded Iraq. So why in the hell didn't he catch him in the first place.

[Doctor Manhattan]

He went after Saddam to impress daddy.


:shifty:

[Kate]

Well, we can only hope that Dubya gets his priorities straight. The likelihood of that happening? Next to nil.

[Minus Xero]

Originally posted by J Money@Nov 17 2004, 09:45 PM
There's no reason to be scared. You can't change what's going to happen because "logical" and "reasonable" are not in George Bush's dictionary. The majority wanted this, so instead of pointing fingers at just Osama, maybe we should turn to the people of this grand country.
49% of us were wisened up and voted Kerry... but for the 51%, we apologize. I'm sure you've seen this already:
Sorry Everybody (http://www.sorryeverybody.com)

Half of the U.S. tried. We did.

As for Osama, let's pray to God. Or Allah. Or whomever diety you choose.

Because the U.S. is doomed.

[Dr. Octagonapus]

Well, hate to be the one saying "we're all gonna die," lol, but that's what this news gives the impression of.











Hey, I could look on the bright side, if we get nuked tomorrow, at least I won't die a virgin. :lol: