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Mark
06-18-2004, 10:43 PM
Ever since the war crimes exemption rule for countries was introduced into the United Nations rulebooks, the US government has applied annually for the exemption and has gotten it successfully every year. But now this may change. With the Al Ghraib prison abuse scandal inflaming a new debate, United Nations head Koffi Annan is headspearing his new campaign to revoke any chance the American military has of getting war crimes immunity in the coming years...


Originally posted by CNN.com@ June 18th, 2004

UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) -- U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan has rebuked the United States for trying to get another exemption from prosecution by the new International Criminal Court and urged the Security Council to oppose the measure.

He is expected to press his case at a luncheon with council ambassadors on Friday. And next week more than 40 nations are scheduled to debate the measure in a public meeting, at which time U.S. abuse of prisoners in Iraq and Afghanistan is bound to be mentioned.

"The blanket exemption is wrong. It is of dubious judicial value and I don't think it should be encouraged by the council," Annan told reporters on Thursday.

Annan has opposed the measure in past years but used particularly harsh language this time, noting the human rights scandal in U.S.-run prisons in Iraq.

"I think it would be unfortunate for one to press for such an exemption, given the prisoner abuse in Iraq," he said. "I think in this circumstance it would be unwise to press for an exemption, and it would be even more unwise on the part of the Security Council to grant it."

The United States is investigating abuse of prisoners by the U.S. military in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The Bush administration, for the third year, is seeking to renew a Security Council resolution that would exempt from the court's prosecution military and civilian personnel "related to a UN-authorized operation" such as that in Iraq.

The immunity is extended to all nations not among the 94 countries that have ratified a treaty establishing the court, based in The Hague, Netherlands. The resolution expires by the end of the month.

So far Washington does not have enough support or will barely reach the required nine "yes" votes needed for the resolution to pass in the 15-nation body.

Among the 15 council members, Germany, France, Spain, Brazil, Chile, Benin and Romania, are expected to abstain. But some, like Romania, are reluctant to be responsible for failure of the resolution, if it dies by one vote.

Crucial is whether China abstains. China has criticized the resolution as sending the wrong signal to the world. But diplomats say Beijing is seeking U.S. concessions on Taiwan, although China denies this.

Expected to vote in favor are Russia, Algeria, the Philippines, Pakistan, Angola as well as Britain, one of 94 countries to have ratified the treaty. Its vote is based on Washington's past threat to veto U.N. peacekeeping missions one by one as it did in 2002, British officials say.

The Bush administration argues that the tribunal, based in The Hague, Netherlands, could be used for politically motivated law suits against American soldiers. Supporters say the court's statutes exclude countries with a proper judicial system, like the United States, from prosecution.

State Department spokesman Richard Boucher said the resolution "should be renewed the way the council said it would."

Source: http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/06/18/annan.us....reut/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/06/18/annan.us.reut/index.html)

I agree with Annan.

LPNeSSRGB
06-20-2004, 09:07 PM
I agree with Annan too. It's about goddamn time the U.S. is found accountable for their actions.

Link04
06-21-2004, 10:47 PM
Yea, and while their at it, maybe they can do something about Iraq and the abductions of US civilians....also that little decapitation bit going on.

is Iraq even represented in the U.N.? I can't remember.

enfestid
06-21-2004, 11:56 PM
Yes, it is in the U.N.

Mark
06-22-2004, 03:57 AM
Originally posted by enfestid@Jun 21 2004, 09:26 PM
Yes, it is in the U.N.
WHAT?!

enfestid
06-22-2004, 05:18 AM
Originally posted by Mark+Jun 22 2004, 03:57 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mark @ Jun 22 2004, 03:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--enfestid@Jun 21 2004, 09:26 PM
Yes, it is in the U.N.
WHAT?&#33; [/b][/quote]
Check it out: http://www.un.org/Overview/unmember.html :)

Mark
06-22-2004, 05:27 AM
Originally posted by enfestid+Jun 22 2004, 02:48 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (enfestid @ Jun 22 2004, 02:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -Mark@Jun 22 2004, 03:57 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--enfestid@Jun 21 2004, 09:26 PM
Yes, it is in the U.N.
WHAT?&#33;
Check it out: http://www.un.org/Overview/unmember.html :) [/b][/quote]
I didn&#39;t expect that. Crazy.

Edit: It can&#39;t be a good thing that North Korea isn&#39;t in the UN. Uh-oh.

Will
06-22-2004, 07:38 AM
Originally posted by Mark+Jun 22 2004, 12:27 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mark @ Jun 22 2004, 12:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -enfestid@Jun 22 2004, 02:48 AM

Originally posted by -Mark@Jun 22 2004, 03:57 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--enfestid@Jun 21 2004, 09:26 PM
Yes, it is in the U.N.
WHAT?&#33;
Check it out: http://www.un.org/Overview/unmember.html :)
I didn&#39;t expect that. Crazy. [/b][/quote]
Iraq hasn&#39;t always been presided over by a crazed lunatic, you know. :lol:

Anthony.
06-22-2004, 04:03 PM
It&#39;s about time. I hope they will not have to be judged for war crimes, however I think no nation should be exempted.

By the way, the world&#39;s worst dictatorship can make it into the U.N. Show some fake willingness to cooperated and you&#39;re in.

Mark
06-22-2004, 06:05 PM
Originally posted by Will+Jun 22 2004, 05:08 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Will @ Jun 22 2004, 05:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -Mark@Jun 22 2004, 12:27 AM

Originally posted by -enfestid@Jun 22 2004, 02:48 AM

Originally posted by -Mark@Jun 22 2004, 03:57 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--enfestid@Jun 21 2004, 09:26 PM
Yes, it is in the U.N.
WHAT?&#33;
Check it out: http://www.un.org/Overview/unmember.html :)
I didn&#39;t expect that. Crazy.
Iraq hasn&#39;t always been presided over by a crazed lunatic, you know. :lol: [/b][/quote]
Well, once that lunatic does get appointed, I believe they can remove the country. :lol: