Homosexuals

[ryanlp2004]

Keep in mind that i write this with absolutely no critism to homosexuals. I was thinking about it and i think that eventually the majority of our population will be homosexual and everything will change. My reasons for this is: ive heard of alot of gay couple adopting kids, and when they adopt there kids they raise them, and being raised by gays they will most likely become gay them selves, then they will adopt children and so on. Any other opinions or thoughts on this topic, oh and remember i am not homophobic and did not mean to insult anybody here if you are homosexual.

[Mark]

Originally posted by ryanlp2004@Jun 10 2004, 06:33 PM
My reasons for this is: ive heard of alot of gay couple adopting kids, and when they adopt there kids they raise them, and being raised by gays they will most likely become gay them selves, then they will adopt children and so on.
You couldn't be more WRONG. Straight parents raise gay kids, so what's the difference for homosexuals? Homosexuals aren't brainwashers.

[ryanlp2004]

well think about it, im not saying that straight couples dont raise gay kids but usually kids look up to there parents alot and usually want to be like them or naturally turn out like them because they have always looked up to them for help and so on.

[RememberingNever]

I think it would be weird to be raised by homosexuals.

"Straight parents raise gay kids".. what if.. gay parents raise even gayer kids? :chemist:

I mean, I don't know any one who was raised by two homosexuals.. so I wouldn't know how they would be brought up (raised). I think it might confuse the child.. even if the parents are trying to keep a 'staight' example.

I'm not homophobic, so therefore am very understanding of the matter. I can understand why they'd want to start a family, but I just can't picture it. :wth:

[Mark]

Homosexuality is caused by a hormonal/chemical inbalance in the brain from birth, not through voluntary impulses. If a guy is born with excess estrogen, he becomes attracted to other men, just like how women with excess testosterone become attracted to women. ;). So no, you can't just become gay (unless you have alot of will power and are going against your straight impulses) because your parents are.

[Kæton]

Wow, this is round two of the other thread...

Why does it matter? This makes people sound homophobic or something.

So let me ask you all this: What if your child turns out to be homosexual?

[ryanlp2004]

Originally posted by Mark@Jun 10 2004, 09:23 PM
Homosexuality is caused by a hormonal/chemical inbalance in the brain from birth, not through voluntary impulses. If a guy is born with excess estrogen, he becomes attracted to other men, just like how women with excess testosterone become attracted to women. ;). So no, you can't just become gay (unless you have alot of will power and are going against your straight impulses) because your parents are.
Hmm yes i guess you have a point

EDIT: Not homophobic, just curious. Oh and i dont really know what i would do if i had a homosexual kid, i guess i would feel a little uncomfortable but its understandable. If he has an extra dose of estrogen or whatever it is, then oh well my kids gay i guess ill have to deal with it.
EDIT: if you think about it would kind of ruin one of the best parts about being a father(in my opinion) giving your kid advice on females.

[RememberingNever]

So let me ask you all this: What if your child turns out to be homosexual?

I'd be very understanding and open minded. It's not his/her fought he/she feels this way, and it's not like he/she is choosing to feel this way.

You can't control who you're attracted to.. I guess it just happens.

[ryanlp2004]

Originally posted by RememberingNever@Jun 10 2004, 09:40 PM

So let me ask you all this: What if your child turns out to be homosexual?

I'd be very understanding and open minded. It's not his/her fought he/she feels this way, and it's not like he/she is choosing to feel this way.

You can't control who you're attracted to.. I guess it just happens.
I agree, thats kinda like picking on a kid because hes "fat" for example. Its not much his falt that his matobalism is slow.

[Maëlle]

Hmmm I don't see how homosexual couples raising children is so weird. I think it's just as religion: If you are raised by very religious parents, maybe you'll believe in the same thing as them but it may turns out that you don't. Same thing goes for raising childrens except that it's an hormonal matter. So if my child was homosexual, I don't think it would bother me. What could I do? It's her/his instinct, not mine.



(I took the religion example but it could've been any other one)

Edit: Changed ''choice'' by ''instinct''. Thanks Mark, I was wrong in my choice of word. :)

[Mark]

Originally posted by Maëlle@Jun 10 2004, 07:16 PM
It's her/his choice, not mine.
Not choice, instinct.

[ryanlp2004]

Originally posted by Maëlle@Jun 10 2004, 09:46 PM
Hmmm I don't see how homosexual couples raising children is so weird. I think it's just as religion: If you are raised by very religious parents, maybe you'll believe in the same thing as them but it may turns out that you don't. Same thing goes for raising childrens except that it's an hormonal matter. So if my child was homosexual, I don't think it would bother me. What could I do? It's her/his choice, not mine.



(I took the religion example but it could've been any other one)
Its not even really his/her choice in the first place if its the bodily chemicals making the child attracted to the same sex.

EDIT: what Mark said

[Dr. Satan]

OMG! We have to stop gays from adopting children! lol

[emmmers]

Originally posted by Mark@Jun 10 2004, 01:23 PM
Homosexuality is caused by a hormonal/chemical inbalance in the brain from birth, not through voluntary impulses. If a guy is born with excess estrogen, he becomes attracted to other men, just like how women with excess testosterone become attracted to women.
Is that actually proven or just your opinion?

[Mark]

Originally posted by When.Karma.Attacks+Jun 10 2004, 08:01 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (When.Karma.Attacks @ Jun 10 2004, 08:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Mark@Jun 10 2004, 01:23 PM
Homosexuality is caused by a hormonal/chemical inbalance in the brain from birth, not through voluntary impulses. If a guy is born with excess estrogen, he becomes attracted to other men, just like how women with excess testosterone become attracted to women.
Is that actually proven or just your opinion? [/b][/quote]
If my memory is correct, I read that in a science magazine at my doctors office.

[Jila]

Originally posted by RememberingNever@Jun 10 2004, 01:13 PM
I think it would be weird to be raised by homosexuals.

"Straight parents raise gay kids".. what if.. gay parents raise even gayer kids? :chemist:

I mean, I don&#39;t know any one who was raised by two homosexuals.. so I wouldn&#39;t know how they would be brought up (raised). I think it might confuse the child.. even if the parents are trying to keep a &#39;staight&#39; example.

I&#39;m not homophobic, so therefore am very understanding of the matter. I can understand why they&#39;d want to start a family, but I just can&#39;t picture it. :wth:
i really hope you were kidding about that. but im sure you werent, so exactly how can you be "gayer"? and also, what do you mean by a "straight" example?

ive read quite a few stories about kids being raised by gay couples and they turn out pretty happy. there are straight parents who do a pretty crappy job of raising their kid(s). they do drugs, abuse them, neglect them and there are so many stories on the news about people killing their children. like beating them with a baseball bat and drowning them in the tub, and the worst part is, most of those stories ive seen the parent said it was because god told them to. and its the religious people who say homosexuality is wrong and they are the ones against adoption for gay parents (not saying all religious people of course). everyone should be focusing on the abusive parents more than homosexuals who want to be parents.

besides, there are a lot of orphans out there who could have homes right now if homosexuals were allowed to adopt. i sure as hell would rather live in a nice home with loving parents than in an orphanage for most of my childhood.

[RememberingNever]

i really hope you were kidding about that. but im sure you werent, so exactly how can you be "gayer"? and also, what do you mean by a "straight" example?
<_< God, I was just kidding (being funny). Can&#39;t you take a joke? And you know what I mean by straight example.. other words good example. Lighten up yo.. ;)

[Whimsicality]

Um, my opinion has pretty much already been stated here...

But I think that homosexuality might be evolution&#39;s way of cropping the population down.

[Kæton]

Originally posted by RememberingNever@Jun 10 2004, 02:17 PM

i really hope you were kidding about that. but im sure you werent, so exactly how can you be "gayer"? and also, what do you mean by a "straight" example?
<_< God, I was just kidding (being funny). Can&#39;t you take a joke? And you know what I mean by straight example.. other words good example. Lighten up yo.. ;)
Serious Chat is not for jokes, hence the name "Serious Chat." You should be serious at all times while in this forum, any other forum like Random Chat is a forum you can joke around in, but not the Serious Chat forum.

[ryanlp2004]

Originally posted by twicethetrouble@Jun 11 2004, 12:52 AM
Um, my opinion has pretty much already been stated here...

But I think that homosexuality might be evolution&#39;s way of cropping the population down.
hmm thats an interesting point. Yeah my moms boyfreind was telling me he was watching something on tv and back in the like late 1800s or something like that. They thought that gay people had mental disabilities and they would give them labodamees(or however the hell you spell that) and they actually had footage of it, maybe it was early 1900s i dont know but yeah i think thats pretty messed up.
EDIT:
Serious Chat is not for jokes, hence the name "Serious Chat." You should be serious at all times while in this forum, any other forum like Random Chat is a forum you can joke around in, but not the Serious Chat forum.
Chill hombre. For i sense his vibe is inocent. :)

[Jila]

Originally posted by ryanlp2004+Jun 10 2004, 05:05 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ryanlp2004 @ Jun 10 2004, 05:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--twicethetrouble@Jun 11 2004, 12:52 AM
Um, my opinion has pretty much already been stated here...

But I think that homosexuality might be evolution&#39;s way of cropping the population down.
hmm thats an interesting point. Yeah my moms boyfreind was telling me he was watching something on tv and back in the like late 1800s or something like that. They thought that gay people had mental disabilities and they would give them labodamees(or however the hell you spell that) and they actually had footage of it, maybe it was early 1900s i dont know but yeah i think thats pretty messed up. [/b][/quote]
lobotomies? :lol:

[ryanlp2004]

Originally posted by PyRoMaNiaK+Jun 11 2004, 01:08 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PyRoMaNiaK @ Jun 11 2004, 01:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -ryanlp2004@Jun 10 2004, 05:05 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--twicethetrouble@Jun 11 2004, 12:52 AM
Um, my opinion has pretty much already been stated here...

But I think that homosexuality might be evolution&#39;s way of cropping the population down.
hmm thats an interesting point. Yeah my moms boyfreind was telling me he was watching something on tv and back in the like late 1800s or something like that. They thought that gay people had mental disabilities and they would give them labodamees(or however the hell you spell that) and they actually had footage of it, maybe it was early 1900s i dont know but yeah i think thats pretty messed up.
lobotomies? :lol: [/b][/quote]
lol....yeah

[PaPeR_CuT]

Originally posted by PyRoMaNiaK@Jun 10 2004, 11:36 PM

ive read quite a few stories about kids being raised by gay couples and they turn out pretty happy.
I don&#39;t know dude having gay parents is good enough reason for a kid at a young age to feel different, and a kid at an older age to be the target of the average high school bully.

[ryanlp2004]

Originally posted by PaPeR_CuT+Jun 11 2004, 03:37 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PaPeR_CuT @ Jun 11 2004, 03:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--PyRoMaNiaK@Jun 10 2004, 11:36 PM

ive read quite a few stories about kids being raised by gay couples and they turn out pretty happy.
I don&#39;t know dude having gay parents is good enough reason for a kid at a young age to feel different, and a kid at an older age to be the target of the average high school bully. [/b][/quote]
Thats almost like guarenteed to happen, if you think about schools today

[Jila]

Originally posted by PaPeR_CuT+Jun 10 2004, 07:37 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PaPeR_CuT @ Jun 10 2004, 07:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--PyRoMaNiaK@Jun 10 2004, 11:36 PM

ive read quite a few stories about kids being raised by gay couples and they turn out pretty happy.
I don&#39;t know dude having gay parents is good enough reason for a kid at a young age to feel different, and a kid at an older age to be the target of the average high school bully. [/b][/quote]
the kids in the stories i read were teenagers in high school

besides, if it matters to you that much and you feel like you cant defend yourself in situations like that then dont talk about your parents. not that you should be ashamed of them or anything. like if your mom was a stripper or something, if you feel like you dont want people making fun of you or your mom just dont go around telling them. some people are just close minded and its just better to avoid them if youre not physically able to beat the crap out of them.

[Crazy.Desperate.Insane]

Originally posted by Mark@Jun 10 2004, 09:23 PM
Homosexuality is caused by a hormonal/chemical inbalance in the brain from birth, not through voluntary impulses. If a guy is born with excess estrogen, he becomes attracted to other men, just like how women with excess testosterone become attracted to women. ;). So no, you can&#39;t just become gay (unless you have alot of will power and are going against your straight impulses) because your parents are.
Wow. Thanks for the scientific explanation of homosexuality. I didn&#39;t know there was a scientific explanation for that. I thought it was just a decision made by an individual. The environment he lives that allows him to think and decide is the no.1 factor that affects his decision.. An example would be a guy living in a feministic world.. born with 5 sister and a single parent-mother.

Oh.. I&#39;m glad I&#39;m not born with extra testosterone

[Will]

I’m going to play off of Keaton’s question a little bit, here.

What if you were gay? Would you hate yourself? I doubt it. You would want everyone to think you were “normal” even though you “clearly are not.”

Homosexuals just want to be viewed like a normal person. That’s why they’re pushing so hard to make it legal for them to be married, because they’re people, too.

But, think about that: What if you were gay? Or, what if your child is gay? What if another family member is gay?

[Leones]

If I was gay, I think I would feel the same as I do now about myself, the only difference would be the sexuality. I wouldn&#39;t hate myself for it. However I think that I would have a horrible youth because of all the comments, the hate you get, and the people who are pushing you to become straight again. That really happens, I have seen it happening. People can ruin your life for it.

If my child was gay, I would love her/him as much as I would do if he/she was straight. I would be open minded and talk about things, like being in love with someone. I really wouldn&#39;t have any problems with it. The best thing to do is giving your child the best youth you can give.

Same for if a family member was gay, I would support him/her.

Gay people are just as normal as straight people. I think that homosexuals could raise childeren well. As far as I know, they are very nice people, and I think they would give a child everything what it need. But I don&#39;t know for sure if this has effect on the child. I think that more childeren who were/are raised by a gay couple, turn out to be gay then childeren raised by a straight couple. Because the child grows up with homosexual parents as example, and may think that this is the normal, more usual way.

(don&#39;t get me wrong on the last sentence)

[arT saveS]

Originally posted by Dr. Satan@Jun 10 2004, 04:10 PM
OMG&#33; We have to stop gays from adopting children&#33; lol
That was a bit homophobic, don&#39;t you think? I&#39;m pretty sure LPA doesn&#39;t tolerate that.

But my maybe I&#39;m just misunderstanding. :)




I feel awkward around homosexual people, it&#39;s true. There is nothing wrong with that however, it&#39;s normal. I&#39;m not homosexual, therefore I don&#39;t understand why they are. The thing Mark explained about excess estrogen(one of the 2 hormones in a female, for those who don&#39;t know) and excess testosterone (the male hormone) did help me understand a little bit more. I always believed people chose to like their own sex, just like I choose nachoes over pizza. Shitty comparison, get over it. But to me, I really don&#39;t care if a person is homosexual. As long as they don&#39;t involve me in it (as it has happened once), then I don&#39;t care. If they are in love with a person and it just so happens that that other person is the same sex, get over it. They are in love.

If my child ended up being gay, I would feel weird. I probably wouldn&#39;t be the best person to talk to about it, but if he/she did talk to me about it, I would try to be as understanding as possible.

[Will]

Originally posted by Dr. Satan@Jun 10 2004, 05:10 PM
OMG&#33; We have to stop gays from adopting children&#33; lol
WOW YOU&#39;RE WARNED FOR BEING HOMOPHOBIC WITHOUT A VALID REASON.

God damn. :rolleyes:

You now have two warnings.

[arT saveS]

Originally posted by Will+Jun 11 2004, 07:28 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Will @ Jun 11 2004, 07:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Dr. Satan@Jun 10 2004, 05:10 PM
OMG&#33; We have to stop gays from adopting children&#33; lol
WOW YOU&#39;RE WARNED FOR BEING HOMOPHOBIC WITHOUT A VALID REASON.

God damn. :rolleyes:

You now have two warnings. [/b][/quote]

Will Satan be going back to hell soon?

[RememberingNever]

Originally posted by Keaton@Jun 10 2004, 09:05 PM
Serious Chat is not for jokes, hence the name "Serious Chat." You should be serious at all times while in this forum, any other forum like Random Chat is a forum you can joke around in, but not the Serious Chat forum.
I&#39;m sorry, I&#39;ll try to be more serious next time. :blush:

[ass_kicker]

im all for homosexual rights except for adopting children. i guess it would be barely ok if it was 2 lesbians, but 2 men are not an option.

[Dean]

If a homosexual couple wanted to adopt children, I don&#39;t really see a problem with that. It&#39;s kind of like a cycle of homophobicity (is that a real word?). Governments don&#39;t want homosexual couples to adopt, which is homophobic, probably because they think the child will end up homosexual. If that did happen, the child will probably want to adopt once he/she is an adult and the whole thing begins again

[ryanlp2004]

Originally posted by earache_my_eye@Jun 13 2004, 01:27 PM
If a homosexual couple wanted to adopt children, I don&#39;t really see a problem with that. It&#39;s kind of like a cycle of homophobicity (is that a real word?). Governments don&#39;t want homosexual couples to adopt, which is homophobic, probably because they think the child will end up homosexual. If that did happen, the child will probably want to adopt once he/she is an adult and the whole thing begins again
thats kinda what i said from the start

[May]

I&#39;m a bisexual and both my parents are straight. i think gays should have every right as straight couples. there&#39;s not different plus it doesnt say anywhere that same sex can not get married. we talked about this in civics class and it just says couples nothing about sex.

and thanks Mark for saying all that at the begining of the topic. hopefully people will understand why people have different perferences

[Glenn]

I would be fine with raising kids that are homosexual. I can understand why people are homosexual and would be open minded if I had homosexual kids. Some of my friends are bisexual and sometimes at weeks at a time, I forget that they are bisexual because they are just like everyone else.

[ass_kicker]

Originally posted by Glenn@Jun 14 2004, 12:06 AM
I would be fine with raising kids that are homosexual. I can understand why people are homosexual and would be open minded if I had homosexual kids. Some of my friends are bisexual and sometimes at weeks at a time, I forget that they are bisexual because they are just like everyone else.
some of my friends are bisexual as well. but it makes no difference to me, since all my bisexual friends are guys. but i guess it would be a bit strange dating a guy thats bisexual.

[Dean]

Originally posted by ryanlp2004+Jun 13 2004, 09:32 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ryanlp2004 @ Jun 13 2004, 09:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--earache_my_eye@Jun 13 2004, 01:27 PM
If a homosexual couple wanted to adopt children, I don&#39;t really see a problem with that. It&#39;s kind of like a cycle of homophobicity (is that a real word?). Governments don&#39;t want homosexual couples to adopt, which is homophobic, probably because they think the child will end up homosexual. If that did happen, the child will probably want to adopt once he/she is an adult and the whole thing begins again
thats kinda what i said from the start [/b][/quote]
Sorry man, I couldn&#39;t be arsed to read the whole thing

[ryanlp2004]

Originally posted by earache_my_eye+Jun 15 2004, 07:15 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (earache_my_eye @ Jun 15 2004, 07:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -ryanlp2004@Jun 13 2004, 09:32 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--earache_my_eye@Jun 13 2004, 01:27 PM
If a homosexual couple wanted to adopt children, I don&#39;t really see a problem with that. It&#39;s kind of like a cycle of homophobicity (is that a real word?). Governments don&#39;t want homosexual couples to adopt, which is homophobic, probably because they think the child will end up homosexual. If that did happen, the child will probably want to adopt once he/she is an adult and the whole thing begins again
thats kinda what i said from the start
Sorry man, I couldn&#39;t be arsed to read the whole thing [/b][/quote]
No problem

[LpAcolyte311]

Gay people are normaly funny I have a gay teacher and hes so fruity its hilarious. But being gay is biological. i think either they will die out or scientists wil find what makes them gay and fix it.

[The Doctor]

Originally posted by LpAcolyte311@Jun 15 2004, 05:41 PM
Gay people are normaly funny I have a gay teacher and hes so fruity its hilarious. But being gay is biological. i think either they will die out or scientists wil find what makes them gay and fix it.
Seriously, how old are you? Every post I see you make seems like youre about 6 years old. Somehow I dont see you lasting long here with that attitude.

[Derek The Infamous]

Originally posted by LpAcolyte311@Jun 15 2004, 04:41 PM
Gay people are normaly funny I have a gay teacher and hes so fruity its hilarious. But being gay is biological. i think either they will die out or scientists wil find what makes them gay and fix it.
You&#39;re warned for being flat out moronic and being against gay people. Grow up or you&#39;ll be off of these forums quicker then you can tell me I&#39;m gay like the immature person that you are.

[Cassie]

Originally posted by _Product_@Jun 13 2004, 06:29 PM
I&#39;m a bisexual and both my parents are straight. i think gays should have every right as straight couples. there&#39;s not different plus it doesnt say anywhere that same sex can not get married. we talked about this in civics class and it just says couples nothing about sex.
We debated over gay rights in Civics class as well. Under no circumstances does a church have to marry a gay couple. But gay marriage is legal in Ontario, B.C. and Quebec (if I&#39;m not mistaken) As far as I&#39;m concerned all gay couples are human beings. They should not be denied their rights as human beings. They should not be shunned or segregated due to their sexual preference. I too find myself attracted to both guys and girls. And contrary to some people&#39;s belief, this was not a decision I created on my own.

[ass_kicker]

Originally posted by Cassie+Jun 15 2004, 10:33 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Cassie @ Jun 15 2004, 10:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--_Product_@Jun 13 2004, 06:29 PM
I&#39;m a bisexual and both my parents are straight. i think gays should have every right as straight couples. there&#39;s not different plus it doesnt say anywhere that same sex can not get married. we talked about this in civics class and it just says couples nothing about sex.
We debated over gay rights in Civics class as well. Under no circumstances does a church have to marry a gay couple. But gay marriage is legal in Ontario, B.C. and Quebec (if I&#39;m not mistaken) As far as I&#39;m concerned all gay couples are human beings. They should not be denied their rights as human beings. They should not be shunned or segregated due to their sexual preference. I too find myself attracted to both guys and girls. And contrary to some people&#39;s belief, this was not a decision I created on my own. [/b][/quote]
i dont think you can choose if youre gay or not. you can be influenced by your surrouding, but you dont just go &#39;i feel like turning gay today&#39; or &#39;yeah im gonna be a bisexual from now on&#39;.

[Will]

How the #### are you influenced by your surroundings?

That&#39;s like saying I&#39;m going to be gay if I hang out with gay guys. :rolleyes:

[ass_kicker]

Originally posted by Will@Jun 16 2004, 09:46 AM
How the #### are you influenced by your surroundings?

That&#39;s like saying I&#39;m going to be gay if I hang out with gay guys. :rolleyes:
i mean... well heres a thought for you:
say youre a girl. youre stuck in a boarding school with girls only. and its the time when you need love and affection. it might affect you. but of course, mostly it doesnt.

[Will]

Originally posted by ass_kicker+Jun 16 2004, 05:18 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ass_kicker @ Jun 16 2004, 05:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Will@Jun 16 2004, 09:46 AM
How the #### are you influenced by your surroundings?

That&#39;s like saying I&#39;m going to be gay if I hang out with gay guys. :rolleyes:
i mean... well heres a thought for you:
say youre a girl. youre stuck in a boarding school with girls only. and its the time when you need love and affection. it might affect you. but of course, mostly it doesnt. [/b][/quote]
Uh, yeah. That&#39;s not how it works.

[Cassie]

Originally posted by Will+Jun 16 2004, 09:59 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Will @ Jun 16 2004, 09:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -ass_kicker@Jun 16 2004, 05:18 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Will@Jun 16 2004, 09:46 AM
How the #### are you influenced by your surroundings?

That&#39;s like saying I&#39;m going to be gay if I hang out with gay guys. :rolleyes:
i mean... well heres a thought for you:
say youre a girl. youre stuck in a boarding school with girls only. and its the time when you need love and affection. it might affect you. but of course, mostly it doesnt.
Uh, yeah. That&#39;s not how it works. [/b][/quote]
That&#39;s as if to say, if I was to watch Madonna and Britney smooch, I would be influenced to mack out with my best girlfriend.

I totally disagree.

[ass_kicker]

Originally posted by Cassie+Jun 16 2004, 04:14 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Cassie @ Jun 16 2004, 04:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -Will@Jun 16 2004, 09:59 AM

Originally posted by -ass_kicker@Jun 16 2004, 05:18 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Will@Jun 16 2004, 09:46 AM
How the #### are you influenced by your surroundings?

That&#39;s like saying I&#39;m going to be gay if I hang out with gay guys. :rolleyes:
i mean... well heres a thought for you:
say youre a girl. youre stuck in a boarding school with girls only. and its the time when you need love and affection. it might affect you. but of course, mostly it doesnt.
Uh, yeah. That&#39;s not how it works.
That&#39;s as if to say, if I was to watch Madonna and Britney smooch, I would be influenced to mack out with my best girlfriend.

I totally disagree. [/b][/quote]
no no no. youre getting the wrong thing. im saying that its not the media that affects you, or the celebrieties. im talking about this - that when youre around people that are the same sex as you and theres no way out to anybody thats the opposite sex, id probably fall in love with someone the same sex. mainly because id still want love and affection.

...maybe im bisexual too. :mellow:

[Cassie]

Originally posted by ass_kicker+Jun 16 2004, 12:38 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ass_kicker @ Jun 16 2004, 12:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -Cassie@Jun 16 2004, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by -Will@Jun 16 2004, 09:59 AM

Originally posted by -ass_kicker@Jun 16 2004, 05:18 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Will@Jun 16 2004, 09:46 AM
How the #### are you influenced by your surroundings?

That&#39;s like saying I&#39;m going to be gay if I hang out with gay guys. :rolleyes:
i mean... well heres a thought for you:
say youre a girl. youre stuck in a boarding school with girls only. and its the time when you need love and affection. it might affect you. but of course, mostly it doesnt.
Uh, yeah. That&#39;s not how it works.
That&#39;s as if to say, if I was to watch Madonna and Britney smooch, I would be influenced to mack out with my best girlfriend.

I totally disagree.
no no no. youre getting the wrong thing. im saying that its not the media that affects you, or the celebrieties. im talking about this - that when youre around people that are the same sex as you and theres no way out to anybody thats the opposite sex, id probably fall in love with someone the same sex. mainly because id still want love and affection.

...maybe im bisexual too. :mellow: [/b][/quote]
I really doubt it.

[May]

Originally posted by ass_kicker+Jun 16 2004, 01:38 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ass_kicker @ Jun 16 2004, 01:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -Cassie@Jun 16 2004, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by -Will@Jun 16 2004, 09:59 AM

Originally posted by -ass_kicker@Jun 16 2004, 05:18 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Will@Jun 16 2004, 09:46 AM
How the #### are you influenced by your surroundings?

That&#39;s like saying I&#39;m going to be gay if I hang out with gay guys. :rolleyes:
i mean... well heres a thought for you:
say youre a girl. youre stuck in a boarding school with girls only. and its the time when you need love and affection. it might affect you. but of course, mostly it doesnt.
Uh, yeah. That&#39;s not how it works.
That&#39;s as if to say, if I was to watch Madonna and Britney smooch, I would be influenced to mack out with my best girlfriend.

I totally disagree.
no no no. youre getting the wrong thing. im saying that its not the media that affects you, or the celebrieties. im talking about this - that when youre around people that are the same sex as you and theres no way out to anybody thats the opposite sex, id probably fall in love with someone the same sex. mainly because id still want love and affection.

...maybe im bisexual too. :mellow: [/b][/quote]
that doesn&#39;t happen Katie... it&#39;d be the wrong kind of love and you&#39;d just be mixing it up. i don&#39;t think you&#39;re a bi but you may be open minded ;)

[TheVoodoo]

I just want to touch on the topic of Homosexuals having the right to get married. Marriage Is an institution in the church. Most Christian churches follow the Bible and in i, it condemns (however u spell it) Homosexuals. So that is basically the only reason Gay&#39;s arent allowed to be married everywhere. If most churches didn&#39;t have a problem with it then I&#39;m sure the Government would not have a problem with it either. But hey that&#39;s just my opinion and understanding of the situation, please correct me if im wrong

[Scarlet]

^ I kind of agree with you. But, I don&#39;t think it&#39;s only about the Christian Church not accepting gay marrage. Other people don&#39;t agree with homosexual marrage either.

I think that homosexual couples should have the right to be married just like any other couple. I just don&#39;t think they should get married in a Christian church.

[Danielle]

Personnaly I don&#39;t have anything against homosexuals, I don&#39;t see why they are critcised by people. Also I think its unfair that they can&#39;t get married because isn&#39;t that just a bit hypocritical considering its basic prejudices and there is so much fuss about other prejudices like racism and sexism but nothing is done about homophobic attitudes in society.

After all we can&#39;t help who we fall in love with and if its someone who we aren&#39;t supposed to according to "society rules" the so what&#33; It just shows that not everyone is the same and not every wants to stick by stupid pointless ideas.

[Whimsicality]

Originally posted by bustedsuck88@Jun 17 2004, 01:54 PM
Personnaly I don&#39;t have anything against homosexuals, I don&#39;t see why they are critcised by people. Also I think its unfair that they can&#39;t get married because isn&#39;t that just a bit hypocritical considering its basic prejudices and there is so much fuss about other prejudices like racism and sexism but nothing is done about homophobic attitudes in society.

After all we can&#39;t help who we fall in love with and if its someone who we aren&#39;t supposed to according to "society rules" the so what&#33; It just shows that not everyone is the same and not every wants to stick by stupid pointless ideas.
I agree completely.



ImmortalSoul668 Posted on Jun 17 2004, 01:43 PM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
^ I kind of agree with you. But, I don&#39;t think it&#39;s only about the Christian Church not accepting gay marrage. Other people don&#39;t agree with homosexual marrage either.

I think that homosexual couples should have the right to be married just like any other couple. I just don&#39;t think they should get married in a Christian church.

That&#39;s true, the Christian Church aren&#39;t the only ones against gay marriage, but it seems that they are the biggest opposer.

[TheVoodoo]

Ok so I was thinking and If gay marriage is ok and should be allowed which I don&#39;t have a huge problem with then shouldn&#39;t brothers be allowed to be married or sisters. Hear me out here. Two brothers can&#39;t have kids just like gay&#39;s so whats so wrong with that? Incest is frowned upon and don&#39;t get me wrong I&#39;m not for it at all. Just something I was thinking about.

[Will]

Don&#39;t quote me on this, but I think the reason incest is outlawed is because of the genetic defects associated with it.

[Ander]

Originally posted by Will@Jun 17 2004, 04:59 PM
Don&#39;t quote me on this, but I think the reason incest is outlawed is because of the genetic defects associated with it.
Yea, that and it&#39;s gross.

I always wondered: If there were only two people left on the earth, one male and one female, who would their children procreate with?

[ryanlp2004]

Originally posted by superxero88+Jun 18 2004, 01:05 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (superxero88 @ Jun 18 2004, 01:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Will@Jun 17 2004, 04:59 PM
Don&#39;t quote me on this, but I think the reason incest is outlawed is because of the genetic defects associated with it.
Yea, that and it&#39;s gross.

I always wondered: If there were only two people left on the earth, one male and one female, who would their children procreate with? [/b][/quote]
That is a very interesting concept, i never thought about that...... The only choice would be each other, but would that mean that the future of the human race would have defects...... :hmm:

[Ander]

Originally posted by ryanlp2004+Jun 17 2004, 05:12 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ryanlp2004 @ Jun 17 2004, 05:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -superxero88@Jun 18 2004, 01:05 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Will@Jun 17 2004, 04:59 PM
Don&#39;t quote me on this, but I think the reason incest is outlawed is because of the genetic defects associated with it.
Yea, that and it&#39;s gross.

I always wondered: If there were only two people left on the earth, one male and one female, who would their children procreate with?
That is a very interesting concept, i never thought about that...... :hmm: [/b][/quote]
Eh, when you&#39;re me you contemplate some strange ####.

[ryanlp2004]

Originally posted by superxero88+Jun 18 2004, 01:14 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (superxero88 @ Jun 18 2004, 01:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -ryanlp2004@Jun 17 2004, 05:12 PM

Originally posted by -superxero88@Jun 18 2004, 01:05 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Will@Jun 17 2004, 04:59 PM
Don&#39;t quote me on this, but I think the reason incest is outlawed is because of the genetic defects associated with it.
Yea, that and it&#39;s gross.

I always wondered: If there were only two people left on the earth, one male and one female, who would their children procreate with?
That is a very interesting concept, i never thought about that...... :hmm:
Eh, when you&#39;re me you contemplate some strange ####. [/b][/quote]
lol..... :rolleyes:

[Jae]

I believe that the goverment, the church, and everyone else who condems gays are ignorant. Homosexuals are people, they are humans, just like you and me. Just because you dont agree with what they do sexually dosent give you the right to prevent them from having the legal rights of a married couple.

Put it this way, you may or may not agree with a straight couple who does weird sexual things, but does that mean you should prevent them from getting married or adopting children or having the right to visit their spouse in the hospital (by law, only immeadate family can visit the critically ill in the hospital) or prevent them from leaving property to their spouse when they die or prevent their spouse from benifiting from their insurance or any other legal right that a &#39;normal&#39; couple would otherwise have?

Lets touch on the adopting issue. If you were given up for adoption at birth and you had no one at all, would you prefer to be raised by a gay couple with loving hearts, or would you prefer to stay in foster homes and state custody?

Now lets attack any arguments that may be brought up. Some people might say gay marrage will make marrage weaker, people wont take marrage seriously. If a 2 gays were married, would you start cheating on your wife/husband? Would you marry any man/woman that came your way and divorce them 48 hours later? Those arguments that the government and others use are pure ignorance.

I think people should use common sense, and rise from ignorance and put yourselves in other&#39;s shoes before you make judgments about other&#39;s belifs....

[ryanlp2004]

Originally posted by Jae@Jun 18 2004, 02:11 AM


Lets touch on the adopting issue. If you were given up for adoption at birth and you had no one at all, would you prefer to be raised by a gay couple with loving hearts, or would you prefer to stay in foster homes and state custody?

Not entirely sure you even wanted an answer to your question but heres mine, i would much rather be with gay parents then stay in a foster home.

[TheVoodoo]

Originally posted by Will@Jun 18 2004, 12:59 AM
Don&#39;t quote me on this, but I think the reason incest is outlawed is because of the genetic defects associated with it.
Yes, I&#39;m pretty sure thats true, but that was my point. If its two gay brothers or two sisters they can&#39;t have kids so isnt that as right as homosexuals getting married. I mean like some of you said you can&#39;t help who you fall in love with. ( once again I must say I do not think incest is right in anyway, I&#39;m just saying isn&#39;t two brothers getting married the same as two non brothers)

[ryanlp2004]

Originally posted by TheVoodoo@Jun 18 2004, 02:23 PM
( once again I must say I do not think incest is right in anyway, I&#39;m just saying isn&#39;t two brothers getting married the same as two non brothers)
umm not quite, because two non brothers arent related by blood, or related at all for that matter but i see where your going.

[RememberingNever]

If gay marriage is ok and should be allowed which I don&#39;t have a huge problem with then shouldn&#39;t brothers be allowed to be married or sisters.

I don&#39;t agree with that.
Brothers marrying sisters or whatever... is just wrong. There are plenty of other men and women in the world that these "sisters and brothers" can marry.

Brothers marrying sisters is totally different from two homosexuals getting married. Homosexuals getting married (probably) arn&#39;t related and they can&#39;t help the way they feel.. (being attracted to the same sex.)

[TheVoodoo]

I didnt say brothers marrying sisters. I said brothers getting married or sisters getting married as in 2 brothers or 2 sisters not a brother and a sister

[RememberingNever]

Originally posted by TheVoodoo@Jun 18 2004, 03:43 PM
I didnt say brothers marrying sisters. I said brothers getting married or sisters getting married as in 2 brothers or 2 sisters not a brother and a sister
Well, it&#39;s kind of like the same thing. These "sisters" (for example) have a choice. If they&#39;re both homosexual.. well then... there are plenty of other lesbians that the "sisters" can marry/feel attracted to.

[hmartin84]

Originally posted by ryanlp2004@Jun 10 2004, 03:03 PM
Keep in mind that i write this with absolutely no critism to homosexuals. I was thinking about it and i think that eventually the majority of our population will be homosexual and everything will change. My reasons for this is: ive heard of alot of gay couple adopting kids, and when they adopt there kids they raise them, and being raised by gays they will most likely become gay them selves, then they will adopt children and so on. Any other opinions or thoughts on this topic, oh and remember i am not homophobic and did not mean to insult anybody here if you are homosexual.
That&#39;d be a good point except for the matter of the fact that you can&#39;t decide whether or not you want to be gay. And you can&#39;t raise someone to be gay. You&#39;re born with it and it&#39;s a part of who you are.

I agree somewhat with what you said about more people being homosexual. I don&#39;t really know if it will be that there will be more people being homosexual but more people coming out. We&#39;ve come a long ways from thinking homosexuality was a mental illness and we still have far to go. So, as time goes on it will become more socially acceptable, therefore people wont be afraid to come out.

[Crazy.Desperate.Insane]

Originally posted by Mark@Jun 10 2004, 09:23 PM
Homosexuality is caused by a hormonal/chemical inbalance in the brain from birth, not through voluntary impulses. If a guy is born with excess estrogen, he becomes attracted to other men, just like how women with excess testosterone become attracted to women. ;). So no, you can&#39;t just become gay (unless you have alot of will power and are going against your straight impulses) because your parents are.
Can anyone here please give me the source of that info? I want to read it straight from the reference. Thank you.

[LpAcolyte311]

Originally posted by LpAcolyte311@Jun 15 2004, 09:41 PM
Gay people are normaly funny I have a gay teacher and hes so fruity its hilarious. But being gay is biological. i think either they will die out or scientists wil find what makes them gay and fix it.
Im apologizing about my post i forgot this was serious forum. I dont have anything against gay people. Some times i think im bisexual and its kinda scary but hey what can i do?

[Ander]

Originally posted by LpAcolyte311+Jun 19 2004, 11:01 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (LpAcolyte311 @ Jun 19 2004, 11:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--LpAcolyte311@Jun 15 2004, 09:41 PM
Gay people are normaly funny I have a gay teacher and hes so fruity its hilarious. But being gay is biological. i think either they will die out or scientists wil find what makes them gay and fix it.
Im apologizing about my post i forgot this was serious forum. I dont have anything against gay people. Some times i think im bisexual and its kinda scary but hey what can i do? [/b][/quote]
Realize you&#39;ll never get a guy or a girl, and become asexual.

[Mark]

Originally posted by superxero88+Jun 19 2004, 04:43 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (superxero88 @ Jun 19 2004, 04:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -LpAcolyte311@Jun 19 2004, 11:01 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--LpAcolyte311@Jun 15 2004, 09:41 PM
Gay people are normaly funny I have a gay teacher and hes so fruity its hilarious. But being gay is biological. i think either they will die out or scientists wil find what makes them gay and fix it.
Im apologizing about my post i forgot this was serious forum. I dont have anything against gay people. Some times i think im bisexual and its kinda scary but hey what can i do?
Realize you&#39;ll never get a guy or a girl, and become asexual. [/b][/quote]
LMFAO.

BURNED&#33; I&#39;m thinking he needs treatment for third degree marks after that one&#33; Oh man&#33;

[Radical Dreamer]

Originally posted by ryanlp2004@Jun 10 2004, 09:03 PM
ive heard of alot of gay couple adopting kids, and when they adopt there kids they raise them, and being raised by gays they will most likely become gay them selves
That&#39;s bullsh*t. Homosexuality ain&#39;t like a disease - it doesn&#39;t spread from one person to another. Being adopted by gay parents doesn&#39;t make you gay just as being adopted by black parents doesn&#39;t make you black. People are born like that and it&#39;s unlikely they can just change their sexuality whenever they wish. Also, I don&#39;t think the world will become gay by the majority because the heterosexual gene is predominant.