AvRiL lAvIgNe

[*MoOn*]

well i think that Avril is my anuther Rock star ... i love her
even though her music is is like she talking about her self.....her lyrics is awsme .... & i love the song called (i'm with u & tomorrow)
what about u? do u love Av. her songs....etc.
:)

[Bandwagon]

First thing's first: Please don't ever type like that again, it's one of the most annoying things ever :chemist:

Second thing: No offence mate, but does it really hurt to type two extra letters to finish off the word 'you'?

And yeah...that style of typing is closely followed up by Avril herself.

'Nuff said.

[LinkinJunior]

Avril is nice for a good listen. I do dig the "Don't Tell Me" song.
By the way, was Avril supposed to be a ghost in the video for "Don't Tell Me"?

[Kate]

I don't like her.

[ass_kicker]

Originally posted by katethegreat@Jun 3 2004, 02:11 PM
I don't like her.
me neither. i like a couple of songs, but shes too poppy/preppy. for me, at least.

[albi]

i hate her

[Phantom Duck]

I've never wished i had her songs after a SLipknot session =P

[arT saveS]

Originally posted by Kat@Jun 3 2004, 07:00 AM
First thing's first: Please don't ever type like that again, it's one of the most annoying things ever :chemist:

Second thing: No offence mate, but does it really hurt to type two extra letters to finish off the word 'you'?

And yeah...that style of typing is closely followed up by Avril herself.

'Nuff said.
:lol: and agreed.

[Hana]

I don't like Avril. Though everyone says I look like her. :blink:

[Whimsicality]

I think that Avril has poetential to become a very good songwriter, but as of right now I don't think she's that great...her voice is pretty good, and she has a couple good songs, but she doesn't bring anything new or interesting to the table, in my opinion.

Maybe I'd like her more if she hadn't been shoved down my throat so much. Avril Lavigne is part of the reason I almost never listen to the radio :P

[Joe]

I'm not a fan, the best thing Avril ever did was the "Fuel" cover at "Metallica Icon" and even that's border line.

[Doctor Manhattan]

She's hot.

I bought her last CD, I admit it.

That's about as far as it goes. Atleast she didn't #### Fred Durst like he wanted.

[LD50]

Originally posted by Casey@Jun 3 2004, 02:47 PM
She's hot.

I bought her last CD, I admit it.

That's about as far as it goes. Atleast she didn't #### Fred Durst like he wanted.
/takes the words right out of my mouth.

[arT saveS]

Originally posted by Casey@Jun 3 2004, 01:47 PM
She's hot.

I bought her last CD, I admit it.

That's about as far as it goes. Atleast she didn't #### Fred Durst like he wanted.
Is that what that song is about? "Did you think I was gonna give it up to you!? Did you think it was something I was gonna do!?"

Aww man that's the only song I like.

[Doctor Manhattan]

Errr, I think Avril has enough common sense not to write a not-giving-up-my-sex sort of song about someone she's met twice. but in anycase.

Avril Lavigne spoke with Rolling Stone magazine about how she shot down LIMP BIZKIT frontman Fred Durst after hanging out with him at the METALLICA tribute concert. She said, "[Backstage at a METALLICA tribute] I mentioned to Fred that I was hungry — like, 'I want an In-N-Out burger'. He had someone go out and get me a whole box of them, with fries. I was like [sarcastically], 'Yeah!' Then he took a private jet out to one of my shows, expecting me to bang him. He was disappointed that I wouldn't even go near him [laughs]. He was a little pissed that I went to my room alone that night." Read more (http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story?id=6085406&pageid=rs.Artistcage&pageregion=triple3&rnd=1086219973796&has-player=true&version=6.0.12.872).

[Andrea]

I like Avril. Her new cd is pretty good and I think it's definitely better than her first one.

[enfestid]

i DoN't LiKe HeR.

[Willstar]

Originally posted by enfestid@Jun 3 2004, 03:37 PM
i DoN't LiKe HeR.
:lol:

[Cassie]

Originally posted by enfestid@Jun 3 2004, 03:37 PM
i DoN't LiKe HeR.
lol, nice. :D

My take on "AvRiL lAvIgNe"... LeT gO

mwha ha. :chemist:

[arT saveS]

Originally posted by Casey@Jun 3 2004, 02:27 PM
Errr, I think Avril has enough common sense not to write a not-giving-up-my-sex sort of song about someone she's met twice. but in anycase.

Avril Lavigne spoke with Rolling Stone magazine about how she shot down LIMP BIZKIT frontman Fred Durst after hanging out with him at the METALLICA tribute concert. She said, "[Backstage at a METALLICA tribute] I mentioned to Fred that I was hungry — like, 'I want an In-N-Out burger'. He had someone go out and get me a whole box of them, with fries. I was like [sarcastically], 'Yeah!' Then he took a private jet out to one of my shows, expecting me to bang him. He was disappointed that I wouldn't even go near him [laughs]. He was a little pissed that I went to my room alone that night." Read more (http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story?id=6085406&pageid=rs.Artistcage&pageregion=triple3&rnd=1086219973796&has-player=true&version=6.0.12.872).
Good thing I was being sarcastic.

I went to that site. Manson is awesome, and her hanging out with him is pretty cool.

[Omar A]

I really like her. I love her new album.

:chemist:

[Leslie]

I didn't like her before, but now I do, and I like her new album. I think I should fear my life like Omar A did... :chemist:

[Glenn]

Originally posted by twicethetrouble@Jun 3 2004, 01:17 PM
I think that Avril has poetential to become a very good songwriter, but as of right now I don't think she's that great...her voice is pretty good, and she has a couple good songs, but she doesn't bring anything new or interesting to the table, in my opinion.

Maybe I'd like her more if she hadn't been shoved down my throat so much. Avril Lavigne is part of the reason I almost never listen to the radio :P
Couldn't have said it any better.

[Suffice]

She's trying to look like me.

[Michele]

i dont like her either.. her songs just are too annoying to me :teehee: and.. she cant sing.. but whaaaaatever

[Neil]

Avril Lavigne is nothing but a no-talent digitally altered fake.

Fake..poser, whatever you wanna call it.

[RememberingNever]

Hmm Avril Lavigne... she's cool. Atleast she's trying to be a rock chick. I don't see why people hate her. Give her some credit.. she does have talent. I don't think she's a "no-talent digitally altered fake". Come on now.. she came from a small town in Canada and always loved music.. she even writes her own stuff.

[Hybrid_Bunny]

Originally posted by Neil@Jun 4 2004, 02:55 PM
Avril Lavigne is nothing but a no-talent digitally altered fake.

Fake..poser, whatever you wanna call it.
Not that I'm really a fan of her, but how do you really know?

[Phantom Duck]

Originally posted by Hybrid_Bunny+Jun 4 2004, 07:45 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Hybrid_Bunny @ Jun 4 2004, 07:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Neil@Jun 4 2004, 02:55 PM
Avril Lavigne is nothing but a no-talent digitally altered fake.

Fake..poser, whatever you wanna call it.
Not that I'm really a fan of her, but how do you really know? [/b][/quote]
Only a poser would act like a "rebel" while trying to sing mainstream, pop, meanless- content song. Not that i totally hate her, but i don't believe she's so punk and stuff.

[Hybrid_Bunny]

Originally posted by Phantom Duck+Jun 4 2004, 03:47 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Phantom Duck @ Jun 4 2004, 03:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by -Hybrid_Bunny@Jun 4 2004, 07:45 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Neil@Jun 4 2004, 02:55 PM
Avril Lavigne is nothing but a no-talent digitally altered fake.

Fake..poser, whatever you wanna call it.
Not that I'm really a fan of her, but how do you really know?
Only a poser would act like a "rebel" while trying to sing mainstream, pop, meanless- content song. Not that i totally hate her, but i don't believe she's so punk and stuff. [/b][/quote]
Well, I don't think she's punk either but I just think it's harsh to speak of her that way when none of us know her personally, you know. I don't mean you, but anyone in general.

[The Modfather]

Originally posted by Suffice@Jun 4 2004, 03:14 AM
She's trying to look like me.
:lol:.

I think you guys need to grow up a little, and throw out your conceptions that she's a "poser" (its poseur btw). Sure she might not be the Sid Vicious of mainstream radio, but I have to say that I've enjoyed every song she's released, and chances are I'll enjoy her new CD when I force Mark to send it to me. If you havent noticed she's tried to harden up her sound and image a little, because she didnt want to make a first record that was that poppy, but had no choice in the matter to begin with.

After all, Mark thinks her new cd is REALLY good, so where is he when you need him to give his opinions?

[Whimsicality]

Originally posted by Hybrid_Bunny+Jun 4 2004, 04:24 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Hybrid_Bunny @ Jun 4 2004, 04:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by -Phantom Duck@Jun 4 2004, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by -Hybrid_Bunny@Jun 4 2004, 07:45 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Neil@Jun 4 2004, 02:55 PM
Avril Lavigne is nothing but a no-talent digitally altered fake.

Fake..poser, whatever you wanna call it.
Not that I'm really a fan of her, but how do you really know?
Only a poser would act like a "rebel" while trying to sing mainstream, pop, meanless- content song. Not that i totally hate her, but i don't believe she's so punk and stuff.
Well, I don't think she's punk either but I just think it's harsh to speak of her that way when none of us know her personally, you know. I don't mean you, but anyone in general. [/b][/quote]
I don't think the "punk" label was her fault. She says it all the time in articles--"I'm a pop artists."

The "punk" frenzy, IMO came from the media--ohmygodsheswearingbaggypantsshessucharebel!

But yeah. I already stated my opinion of her music, so I won't go into that again.

[Mark]

She sings pop-rock music, but she isn't fake like all those other pop artists. She doesn't strip, and she doesn't lip synch. All she does is play the guitar, write her own lyrics and sing in a rock band. I think she's very talented, and I love how she's an individual, and isn't pushed around by others. Her songs are meaningful, despite popular belief, because I've heard both albums and they're both good albums. I have alot of respect for Avril.

[Hybrid_Bunny]

Originally posted by Mark@Jun 4 2004, 09:52 PM
She sings pop-rock music, but she isn't fake like all those other pop artists. She doesn't strip, and she doesn't lip synch. All she does is play the guitar, write her own lyrics and sing in a rock band. I think she's very talented, and I love how she's an individual, and isn't pushed around by others. Her songs are meaningful, despite popular belief, because I've heard both albums and they're both good albums. I have alot of respect for Avril.
Well said, Mark. Besides, her voice isn't as great live but I saw part of her performance at Much today and I noticed her voice is improving. She probably knows her voice isn't as great live but she doesn't try to hide it.

[Neil]

Originally posted by Mark@Jun 4 2004, 08:52 PM
She sings pop-rock music, but she isn't fake like all those other pop artists. She doesn't strip, and she doesn't lip synch. All she does is play the guitar, write her own lyrics and sing in a rock band. I think she's very talented, and I love how she's an individual, and isn't pushed around by others. Her songs are meaningful, despite popular belief, because I've heard both albums and they're both good albums. I have alot of respect for Avril.
She can't ####### play guitar. Cassie went to one of her concerts. She had 2 other guitarists and a bass player. Plus her. Don't tell me that Avril's music requires 3 guitars. All she does is strum it. Who knows if she writes it. Alot of artists buy poems and songs off sites like poems.com.

[edit] She also sounds like sh*t live.

[Mark]

Originally posted by Neil+Jun 4 2004, 11:29 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Neil @ Jun 4 2004, 11:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Mark@Jun 4 2004, 08:52 PM
She sings pop-rock music, but she isn't fake like all those other pop artists. She doesn't strip, and she doesn't lip synch. All she does is play the guitar, write her own lyrics and sing in a rock band. I think she's very talented, and I love how she's an individual, and isn't pushed around by others. Her songs are meaningful, despite popular belief, because I've heard both albums and they're both good albums.* I have alot of respect for Avril.
She can't ####### play guitar. Cassie went to one of her concerts. She had 2 other guitarists and a bass player. Plus her. Don't tell me that Avril's music requires 3 guitars. All she does is strum it. Who knows if she writes it. Alot of artists buy poems and songs off sites like poems.com.

[edit] She also sounds like sh*t live. [/b][/quote]
Wow. You've really got a beef with her.

My musical tastes don't require justification from others, and you have your own opinion, as biased as it may seem.

[Doctor Manhattan]

I wish she'd strip.


:chemist:

[Neil]

Originally posted by Mark@Jun 4 2004, 09:01 PM
My musical tastes don't require justification from others, and you have your own opinion, as biased as it may seem.
Same here. I listen to whatever I want. I could care less what others think.

I suppose that post I made was a little harsh... I'm not having the greatest night. Sorry about that.

[Doctor Manhattan]

it's true.

she can't sing. Remember MTVIcon: Metallica? Yeah. Some say that was a great showing by Avril, but come on. In reality it was kinda sucky.

I haven't seen her live since, she might have changed, but I know that she's still writing cookie cutter pop-rock.

Oh, as for her writing her own lyrics...well, supposedly Milli Vanilli wrote their own lyrics too. We all know how that turned out.

Not trying to change anyones opinion, nor am I looking for a debate/arguement about Avril. Just stating my opinion.

She's hot as #### though.

[The Modfather]

Originally posted by Casey@Jun 4 2004, 09:02 PM
I wish she'd strip.


:chemist:
There's an infamous plummer crack picture from an earlier performance at Much Music Canada if you wanna see her strip that bad.

Once would believe she doesn't have a nice ass from how bad the camerawork was on the plumber crack picture, but I have another picture of her mooning with the initials for Much Music Canada written above her butt, and it is a glorious pic indeed.

I'd post it but I dont know if bare ass crack counts as nudity on these forums. :lol:

[Doctor Manhattan]

get on AIM, now.




...so we can talk business.

[Hybrid_Bunny]

Originally posted by Derek+Jun 4 2004, 10:14 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Derek @ Jun 4 2004, 10:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Casey@Jun 4 2004, 09:02 PM
I wish she'd strip.


:chemist:
There's an infamous plummer crack picture from an earlier performance at Much Music Canada if you wanna see her strip that bad.

Once would believe she doesn't have a nice ass from how bad the camerawork was on the plumber crack picture, but I have another picture of her mooning with the initials for Much Music Canada written above her butt, and it is a glorious pic indeed.

I'd post it but I dont know if bare ass crack counts as nudity on these forums. :lol: [/b][/quote]
She did that twice actually. The first time she did it, her pants were apparently just hanging out and it showed. She claimed it wasn't a big deal. Next year, they asked her if she would do something like that again and she voluntarily lowered her pants and that's when she wrote MMVA (MuchMusic Video Awards) on it. My friend had a wallpaper of that once too. :lol:

[Doctor Manhattan]

I'd hit it all night, and twice in the morning.

[The Modfather]

Originally posted by Hybrid_Bunny+Jun 4 2004, 09:20 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Hybrid_Bunny @ Jun 4 2004, 09:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by -Derek@Jun 4 2004, 10:14 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Casey@Jun 4 2004, 09:02 PM
I wish she'd strip.


:chemist:
There's an infamous plummer crack picture from an earlier performance at Much Music Canada if you wanna see her strip that bad.

Once would believe she doesn't have a nice ass from how bad the camerawork was on the plumber crack picture, but I have another picture of her mooning with the initials for Much Music Canada written above her butt, and it is a glorious pic indeed.

I'd post it but I dont know if bare ass crack counts as nudity on these forums. :lol:
She did that twice actually. The first time she did it, her pants were apparently just hanging out and it showed. She claimed it wasn't a big deal. Next year, they asked her if she would do something like that again and she voluntarily lowered her pants and that's when she wrote MMVA (MuchMusic Video Awards) on it. My friend had a wallpaper of that once too. :lol: [/b][/quote]
Wallpaper sized!?!?!? I must have it...now.

[Anya]

Originally posted by Casey@Jun 4 2004, 09:15 PM
get on AIM, now.




...so we can talk business.
:lol: :lol:


'Business' you say?

[Doctor Manhattan]

Originally posted by Anya+Jun 4 2004, 09:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Anya @ Jun 4 2004, 09:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Casey@Jun 4 2004, 09:15 PM
get on AIM, now.




...so we can talk business.
:lol: :lol:


'Business' you say? [/b][/quote]
go install some Kodak software.




*lowblow*

[Anya]

Originally posted by Casey@Jun 4 2004, 09:23 PM
go install some Kodak software.




*lowblow*
*keels you*




It still won't work. :'(

[Hybrid_Bunny]

Originally posted by Derek@Jun 4 2004, 10:22 PM
Wallpaper sized!?!?!? I must have it...now.
Luckily he was online right now. :lol: It looks okay to me, I guess.

Avril (http://www.wongvisions.com/moleman/avril.jpg) :whistle:

[Doctor Manhattan]

Originally posted by Anya+Jun 4 2004, 09:25 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Anya @ Jun 4 2004, 09:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Casey@Jun 4 2004, 09:23 PM
go install some Kodak software.




*lowblow*
*keels you*




It still won't work. :'( [/b][/quote]
you ####### stole my word.



you shall pay with your life.

[Anya]

Haha, yeah I know, it just sorta caught on that's all. :lol:


I guess this means I should run then..

[The Modfather]

Originally posted by Anya@Jun 4 2004, 09:32 PM
Haha, yeah I know, it just sorta caught on that's all. :lol:


I guess this means I should run then..
Yes, very fast. Ph34r t3h Casey.

And to that wallpaer: TWO ASS PICS. HOLY F**K.

[Doctor Manhattan]

Originally posted by Derek+Jun 4 2004, 09:42 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Derek @ Jun 4 2004, 09:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Anya@Jun 4 2004, 09:32 PM
Haha, yeah I know, it just sorta caught on that's all. :lol:


I guess this means I should run then..
Yes, very fast. Ph34r t3h Casey.

And to that wallpaer: TWO ASS PICS. HOLY F**K. [/b][/quote]
don't...


what? nevermind.

[Hybrid_Bunny]

Originally posted by Derek@Jun 4 2004, 10:42 PM
And to that wallpaer: TWO ASS PICS. HOLY F**K.
You're welcome. :lol:

[The Modfather]

Originally posted by Casey+Jun 4 2004, 09:42 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Casey @ Jun 4 2004, 09:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by -Derek@Jun 4 2004, 09:42 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Anya@Jun 4 2004, 09:32 PM
Haha, yeah I know, it just sorta caught on that's all. :lol:


I guess this means I should run then..
Yes, very fast. Ph34r t3h Casey.

And to that wallpaer: TWO ASS PICS. HOLY F**K.
don't come to soon buddy. [/b][/quote]
Can you not be offensive or break the keep it clean rule for a day? Sh*t like that is the type of stuff that gets you warned.

[Doctor Manhattan]

I don't know what you're talking about. :shifty:

[Atsuzen]

Her voice is OK, but I don't like her. ^_^

[uberness]

Originally posted by LinkinJunior@Jun 3 2004, 08:09 AM
By the way, was Avril supposed to be a ghost in the video for "Don't Tell Me"?
not really. if you listen to the song and watch the video on a deeper level then it all makes sense. but, avril supposed to be this haunting memory for this guy that raped her or something like that and she's following him all over the city making him all paranoid. when i first saw it i thought she was just stalking him but after my sis pointed out i understood it better.

as for my opinion on avril, she's ok. i didn't like her at first...then i did...now i don't...so it all depends on what i think of her latest album to determin if i'll like her again.

[Doctor Manhattan]

"did you think I was going to give it up to you?"


come on. it's not about rape. It's clearly about the dude wanting to bang her *coughderekcough*, and she's not going to give up her virginity to him.





Virgin. Lol.

[Michele]

Originally posted by Casey@Jun 5 2004, 05:29 AM
"did you think I was going to give it up to you?"


come on. it's not about rape. It's clearly about the dude wanting to bang her *coughderekcough*, and she's not going to give up her virginity to him.





Virgin. Lol.
:o Ohhhhhhh shiiiiiiietttttt your gunna get it!!! :lol:

[Phantom Duck]

Originally posted by Casey@Jun 5 2004, 02:57 AM
I don't know what you're talking about. :shifty:
:whistle:

That's too unfair, others become famous to get laid and others support they are virgins just to get the hopes of the crowd up :lol:

[Dedicated]

She said in an interview that the biggest mistake people make about her is that they say "she's trying to be punk" and that she never said she was punk and isn't trying to be punk.




And I think she's talented... She's gotta be, or she wouldn't be famous... (No one mention William Hung and completely disprove my theory) :P

[Whimsicality]

Originally posted by Dedicated@Jun 5 2004, 09:54 AM
She said in an interview that the biggest mistake people make about her is that they say "she's trying to be punk" and that she never said she was punk and isn't trying to be punk.




And I think she's talented... She's gotta be, or she wouldn't be famous... (No one mention William Hung and completely disprove my theory) :P
Or Milli Vanili.

[Trish]

She must be doing something right to be famous.
I don't like her voice, she sounds country. He songs have the most annoying tunes and it's really bad. Though some of the lyrics are OK.
I can't stand her bratty attitude and she has a face like a rat.


Oh god, I love her clothes....:D

But, Avril Sucks.

[Phantom Duck]

Originally posted by Dedicated@Jun 5 2004, 01:54 PM
She said in an interview that the biggest mistake people make about her is that they say "she's trying to be punk" and that she never said she was punk and isn't trying to be punk.

Her image is totally opposite, as well as her "f-u all" attitude.

[Willstar]

Originally posted by Phantom Duck+Jun 5 2004, 01:19 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Phantom Duck @ Jun 5 2004, 01:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Dedicated@Jun 5 2004, 01:54 PM
She said in an interview that the biggest mistake people make about her is that they say "she's trying to be punk" and that she never said she was punk and isn't trying to be punk.

Her image is totally opposite, as well as her "f-u all" attitude. [/b][/quote]
What does her image have to do with anything?

I hate how people associate image with music.

Image is image. Music is music.

Who cares what she looks like?

[Neil]

What was with that thing on Live MuchMusic where she swore and everything? And people say she doesn't try to be a 'rebel'.

She's an attention wh*re

[Willstar]

Originally posted by Neil@Jun 5 2004, 02:41 PM
What was with that thing on Live MuchMusic where she swore and everything? And people say she doesn't try to be a 'rebel'.

She's an attention wh*re
Oh, yeah. I can see how swearing makes you a rebel. :rolleyes:

[Hybrid_Bunny]

Originally posted by Neil@Jun 5 2004, 03:41 PM
What was with that thing on Live MuchMusic where she swore and everything? And people say she doesn't try to be a 'rebel'.

She's an attention wh*re
Well, she's not the only artist who swears on television. So you can't use that to say anything. Besides, since the thing was being televised, she already has the attention she needs anyway.

[BadAngel]

all i have to say: she's a poser and she's definetly not punk.

[Whimsicality]

Originally posted by BadAngel@Jun 5 2004, 04:31 PM
all i have to say: she's a poser and she's definetly not punk.
Can explain your point of view more thoroughly?

I'll quote Dedicated here...
Dedicated Posted on Jun 5 2004, 09:54 AM
She said in an interview that the biggest mistake people make about her is that they say "she's trying to be punk" and that she never said she was punk and isn't trying to be punk.



Also, while I don't personally like her music, I don't think the "punk" thing is her fault. Punk is "cool" (at least, pop-punk...the day that Crass is trendy I'll die of shock) so the media says "Ooooh look! She doesn't look anything like Briteny! She's holding a guitar in her video! Punk!"

[Cassie]

Originally posted by Phantom Duck+Jun 5 2004, 01:19 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Phantom Duck @ Jun 5 2004, 01:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Dedicated@Jun 5 2004, 01:54 PM
She said in an interview that the biggest mistake people make about her is that they say "she's trying to be punk" and that she never said she was punk and isn't trying to be punk.

Her image is totally opposite, as well as her "f-u all" attitude. [/b][/quote]
I was watching some entertainment program about a week ago and they were discussing Avril's recent appearance on TRL. Avril was hosting and they were quizzing her, asking her questions to the effect of "Why are you so angry?" and "Do you consider yourself a diva?" She was obviously displeased with what she heard because she flipped them all off. :wth:

[Willstar]

Why in the world would someone ask her that?

I hate people who don't know what a diva is.

A diva is a female musician who has had an TREMENDOUS impact on music.

i.e. Madonna, Cher, Mariah Carey, Celine Dion.

Britney, Christina, Jennifer, Beyonce, Avril... none of them are divas.

None of them have been around long enough.




Sorry. Misuse of the word "diva" pisses me off. :lol:

[Doctor Manhattan]

diva can also be classified as a woman in the music industry that throws fits backstage, acts like an ass, etc.

So there are two meanings to the word Diva.

And Mariah Carey isn't a Diva. Replace her with Whitney Houston or die a horrible death.


EDIT: Just incase you refuse to believe that:

An operatic prima donna.
A very successful singer of nonoperatic music: a jazz diva.
- dictionary.com


We're both right.

[Willstar]

Originally posted by Casey@Jun 5 2004, 04:50 PM
diva can also be classified as a woman in the music industry that throws fits backstage, acts like an ass, etc.

So there are two meanings to the word Diva.

And Mariah Carey isn't a Diva. Replace her with Whitney Houston or die a horrible death.
I forgot her. But Mariah is a diva.

[Phantom Duck]

Originally posted by Hybrid_Bunny+Jun 5 2004, 07:47 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Hybrid_Bunny @ Jun 5 2004, 07:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Neil@Jun 5 2004, 03:41 PM
What was with that thing on Live MuchMusic where she swore and everything? And people say she doesn't try to be a 'rebel'.

She's an attention wh*re
Well, she's not the only artist who swears on television. [/b][/quote]
Yeah, but at least the others admit they're punk or trying to be one.

What does her image have to do with anything?

I hate how people associate image with music.

Image is image. Music is music.

Who cares what she looks like?

Um... i wasn't talking about the way she looks, but her WHOLE image. I mean, instead of swearing and geting angry live, she could very easily say something which would make the presenter look like an idiot, instead of having the "angry kid" attitude.

[Odaton]

Avril's music is nothing special, she's selling on her image that was prefabricated by the media and record companies. Her 'anti-Britney punk' image is very marketable after the innocent-pop-queens like Britney have lost all their credibility.

Corporations+Music=Crap

[Dedicated]

I've only just noticed that she has tattoo's on her right arm :wth:

[Scotty]

Originally posted by Phantom Duck+Jun 5 2004, 06:19 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Phantom Duck @ Jun 5 2004, 06:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Dedicated@Jun 5 2004, 01:54 PM
She said in an interview that the biggest mistake people make about her is that they say "she's trying to be punk" and that she never said she was punk and isn't trying to be punk.

Her image is totally opposite, as well as her "f-u all" attitude. [/b][/quote]
How elitist of you Phantom, as per.

It's not Avrils' fault that she's labeled as "pop-punk" (God, I hate saying that). It's all these adolescent (and mostly female) fans of hers that call her punk.
Because Avrils' music is nothing more than pop on scuzz, it's light on the ears, and so easy for people who have been brought up on pop to listen to. These people buy her records and copy her image for credibility. It's as if they all sat down together and came to the conclusion "She rattles around on a skateboard! She wears Converse! She carries a guitar! She's PUNK!!!"

The way whoever started this topic typed the title says it all. I respected Avril as a pop singer before, but it's stuff like that that really p*sses me off.

[Cassie]

Originally posted by earache_my_eye+Jun 6 2004, 11:18 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (earache_my_eye @ Jun 6 2004, 11:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by -Phantom Duck@Jun 5 2004, 06:19 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Dedicated@Jun 5 2004, 01:54 PM
She said in an interview that the biggest mistake people make about her is that they say "she's trying to be punk" and that she never said she was punk and isn't trying to be punk.

Her image is totally opposite, as well as her "f-u all" attitude.
How elitist of you Phantom, as per.

It's not Avrils' fault that she's labeled as "pop-punk" (God, I hate saying that). It's all these adolescent (and mostly female) fans of hers that call her punk.
Because Avrils' music is nothing more than pop on scuzz, it's light on the ears, and so easy for people who have been brought up on pop to listen to. These people buy her records and copy her image for credibility. It's as if they all sat down together and came to the conclusion "She rattles around on a skateboard! She wears Converse! She carries a guitar! She's PUNK!!!"

The way whoever started this topic typed the title says it all. I respected Avril as a pop singer before, but it's stuff like that that really p*sses me off. [/b][/quote]
What's irritating is the debate over whether or not her style is original and whether or not it should be called "punk". Believe it or not, some people choose their clothes because they like them, and it has nothing to do with rebellion or conformity.

[Scotty]

That's basically what I was saying. People such as Avril wear what they feel comfortable in, and people buy into it and call it punk.

[Phantom Duck]

Originally posted by earache_my_eye@Jun 6 2004, 04:32 PM
That's basically what I was saying. People such as Avril wear what they feel comfortable in, and people buy into it and call it punk.
Who talked about clothes? Image sometimes contains but is not limited to clothing, ya know.

[Messy Marj]

i don't like Avril, cuz she's always like: OWOWOWOWOAWAWAWAWA....a bit yodeling :chemist:

[Willstar]

Originally posted by Phantom Duck+Jun 7 2004, 04:57 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Phantom Duck @ Jun 7 2004, 04:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--earache_my_eye@Jun 6 2004, 04:32 PM
That's basically what I was saying. People such as Avril wear what they feel comfortable in, and people buy into it and call it punk.
Who talked about clothes? Image sometimes contains but is not limited to clothing, ya know. [/b][/quote]
She wasn't the one who labeled herself a "punk."

She's who she is. It's the media that labeled her.

[Atsuzen]

Originally posted by ghost child@Jun 7 2004, 06:11 PM
i don't like Avril, cuz she's always like: OWOWOWOWOAWAWAWAWA....a bit yodeling :chemist:
:lol:

[Yakuza_stinger]

she is fine artist...not bad, not good...

[Numb Girl]

I've seen her live performance at the Rock am Ring festival and I think it sounded strange... :wth:

[Phantom Duck]

Originally posted by Will+Jun 7 2004, 10:19 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Will @ Jun 7 2004, 10:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by -Phantom Duck@Jun 7 2004, 04:57 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--earache_my_eye@Jun 6 2004, 04:32 PM
That's basically what I was saying. People such as Avril wear what they feel comfortable in, and people buy into it and call it punk.
Who talked about clothes? Image sometimes contains but is not limited to clothing, ya know.
She wasn't the one who labeled herself a "punk."

She's who she is. It's the media that labeled her. [/b][/quote]
Well, most bands today also try to get the "nu metal" label off them, but that's the music they play, cannot change it. In the same way, Avril has to stop trying acting like a punk in order no to be called one.

[Neil]

Originally posted by Numb Girl@Jun 7 2004, 07:40 AM
I've seen her live performance at the Rock am Ring festival and I think it sounded strange... :wth:
I think the word you are looking for is haggard.
Although she did sing here new stuff ok, the old stuff sucked. Big time.

[ass_kicker]

i guess she cant sing live. i watched MTV unplugged on one of her shows and it was REALLY BAD. but then again, maybe she was just nervous.

[LinkinJunior]

Originally posted by ass_kicker@Jun 7 2004, 09:45 AM
i guess she cant sing live. i watched MTV unplugged on one of her shows and it was REALLY BAD. but then again, maybe she was just nervous.
Must've been due to the negative vibes coming from the Avril Haters. :mellow:

[ass_kicker]

Originally posted by LinkinJunior+Jun 7 2004, 05:09 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (LinkinJunior @ Jun 7 2004, 05:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--ass_kicker@Jun 7 2004, 09:45 AM
i guess she cant sing live. i watched MTV unplugged on one of her shows and it was REALLY BAD. but then again, maybe she was just nervous.
Must've been due to the negative vibes coming from the Avril Haters. :mellow: [/b][/quote]
maybe. but it was horrible. even my mom (whos a wannabe avril lavigne fan :mellow: ...) said that it SUCKED! it was really bad.
yeah im just repeating myself. :lol:

[Scarlet]

Ok, I'll admit it, I have both her albums and I'm really liking her new one. :whistle:

Some of you are making Avril Lavigne sound like she is such an awful person. Well, she isn't. I mean it's like - she's way better than Hilary Duff and Ashlee Simpson (examples of girls who can't sing for crap).

And I have to say she sounds more "punk" than this chick band called Lillix.

I don't think she's a poser. She writes her own music and stays true to herself.

[ch|e|s|t|er]

no offense but i really dislike her! i think she poses a lot of music and can't sing period, but that is just my opinion! sry if you don't agree with it but everyone has theirs.... :innocent:

[Sylar]

well...i guess i'll share my opinion. I dont like her or her songs. I think she's only out there to be in the mainstream and the spotlight. Plus her voice annoys me like no-other, sounds like she's close to yodeling or something. I guess her lyrics are OK but other than that i hate her music...

[ch|e|s|t|er]

Originally posted by Viciouswanton666@Jun 7 2004, 11:56 PM
well...i guess i'll share my opinion. I dont like her or her songs. I think she's only out there to be in the mainstream and the spotlight. Plus her voice annoys me like no-other, sounds like she's close to yodeling or something. I guess her lyrics are OK but other than that i hate her music...
:shifty: i agree totally everything u typed is correct to ME!